Xview is a scenery generator for PSX based on X-Plane. Here is the introduction to the XView User Guide, which will give you some idea of the features.
XView is a program that provides Precision Simulator by Aerowinx (PSX) with world-wide scenery and spectacular lighting effects. It is implemented as a plugin to the X-Plane flight simulator by Laminar Research and connects to PSX over a network.
In addition to detailed rendering of the scenery with accurate ground elevation, the system provides highly detailed airports with sloping runways and full runway and taxiway lighting. The runway positions in X-Plane exactly match those in PSX so that there is no need for offsets.
XView feeds PSX with the scenery elevation, so if you fly into a mountain you will crash!
XView uses the settings in PSX to drive the time of day, the weather, and comprehensive animation of most of the external parts of the aircraft, including
• lights for landing, taxi, turn-off, beacon, wing, logo, strobe, navigation
• flaps, ailerons, speed brakes, rudder, elevator, elevator trim
• gear, sprung suspension, rotating wheels, steering nosewheel
• reverse thrust cowling movement, fan rotation
• two opening doors on port side
Aircraft traffic can be specified by either PSX or X-Plane and in either case the traffic shows up both in the scenery and in the cockpit Navigation Display (ND). Operation with VATSIM should be possible.
PSX supports muli-pilot set-ups for flying as captain and co-pilot in one aircraft or as captains in two independent aircraft. XView will generate the appropriate views in both cases.
To enable visual animation of the aircraft components a new aircraft has been developed for use with X-Plane. It is called PSX Plane and is provided with XView, although its use is not essential.
Installation is simple: just a few files need to be added into the X-Plane directories.
X-Plane is a current product and is continually being extended by Laminar Research. There is an active user community developing enhanced scenery and buildings for airports.
XView has taken a considerable time to develop and I hope it will be a useful addition to the PSX family. It is Windows based and wupports X-Plane 9 and 10 in both 32- and 64-bit versions.
Mike
Thanks Mike, this are wonderfull news!
Best regards
Vito
Hi Mike.
Great news - seems I need to buy X-plane besides PSX. Have downloaded the demo and like the fluidity over FSX although I find the "look" of FSX more natural.
Thank you for contributing to the community!
BR
Kurt
The XView User Guide is now available at ftp://larkshayes.com.
Username : xview@larkshayes.com
Password : 747Pilot
The software will be loaded in the same place later in July.
Mike
Thx Mike,
I wpuld love to have X-plane as a scenery generator.
Great work!
Roel
Sounds good!
Many thanks
Carl
Wow amazing, really looking forward to testing it out.
I am confused about the multi-pilot setup. I will have 2 PCs (a PSX PC running all the avionics for the Captain and FO, and another PC running Xplane for visuals). However your diagram does not seem to make that possible?
Hello GodAtum!
The diagrams (as there are 2 diagrams, not one) show the multi-USER setup! For a multi-COMPUTER setup (with a single user), it's obviously possible, simply pointing XView towards PSx (Main and Boost) server IP address.
Thanks for your answer :)
Regarding weather, I guess Xview overrides any Xplane settings?
How well does Xview cope with 3 projectors on a curved screen?
GodAtum,
- weather: please read the XView manual. Answer's there.
- 3 projectors: that's a question for any X-Plane forum; or try the demo by yourself.
Quote from: GodAtumRegarding weather, I guess Xview overrides any Xplane settings?
Sorry I did not make myself clear. I was trying to clarify the sentance in the manual: "XView treats PSX as the master for weather". Does that mean Xview overrides the Xplane settings?
Quote from: GodAtumDoes that mean Xview overrides the Xplane settings?
Yes. This was decided because the weather affects the flight model, which of course is provided by PSX. The wind has little effect on the scenery, except the direction of windsocks on the ground and snow. The specification of the weather is rather different in the two systems so the mapping of PSX weather onto X-Plane is not exact. Not all XP weather variables are modified. However, the approach I have taken works well enough.
Mike
Thanks Mike.
Sounds awesome!
- Stekeller
KORD
Fantastic Mike! This is going to be my compliment to PSX. I've got X-Plane waiting!
Thank you very much, Mike.
XPX will be my choice for PSX scenery generation: sloped runways, runway offsets matching PSX, no microstutters, 64-bit code, free & up-to-date OSM data integration with World2Xplane, a huge freeware airport coverage and many assets more. Have been using the sim for quite a time now, and it steadily becomes better.
Choice is good! :-)
Hello,
Just checking the username and password for the link provided were still active as I couldn't get in.
Cheers
AndrewT
Hi Andrew,
It works ok. Remember to put the following in your browser address:
ftp://larkshayes.com
You will then be asked for the username and password:
username : xview@larkshayes.com
pw: 747Pilot
Let me know how you get on.
Mike
The full software package is now up on my server (details of login above).
Please let me know of any issues.
Mike
Thanks so much Mike! Now I just need PSX!
A small update (Version 1.01) has been placed on the server, which corrects a fault with more than 6 traffic planes. The maximum is 7.
You need only download the appropriate XView[nn].xpl file and the updated documentation.
Mike
Hi Mike,
I downloaded XView and installed the plugin in 64-bit XP 10.25 in anticipation of the arrival of PSX (I am hoping it will be delivered in the next few days, as I pre-ordered from Aerosoft).
Anyway, fired up X-Plane with the plugin installed, obviously without PSX being present to drive it. Did note a few unusual things. Without PSX present to inject weather data into XView, X-Plane loads with the visibility set to 0.06sm, temperature at 32 F/0C, and barometric pressure at 00.00 in/hg! I assume this is because it is looking for the current weather from PSX.
I know that the instruction manual for XView states that PSX should be up and running BEFORE X-Plane is started - but the results I saw would seem to indicate that one cannot run X-Plane (with XView installed) in a non-PSX session - i.e. that one would have to move the plugin out of the X-Plane /resources/plugin folder whenever planning to run X-Plane normally... and only have plugin present when planning to use XP as a scenery generator for PSX?
It's no big problem to do that, but just wanted to know if the strange weather injection apparently coming from XView is to be expected when the plugin is running without PSX being present.
Hi JR,
You are right. I wouldn't run an XView session without PSX. To work XView must disable lots of things within X-Plane, the flight model for instance. Also PSX Plane has had stuff removed that is not needed in an XView session.
I simply rename win.xpl to nowin.xpl. Saves moving stuff around.
Mike
Quote from: mikeindevonHi JR,
You are right. I wouldn't run an XView session without PSX. To work XView must disable lots of things within X-Plane, the flight model for instance. Also PSX Plane has had stuff removed that is not needed in an XView session.
I simply rename win.xpl to nowin.xpl. Saves moving stuff around.
Mike
Ah! I shall do just that. Thanks for your work in creating this interface - can't wait to try it with PSX!
Jim Barrett
If you still have the low visibility etc with PSX running, you may need to go into the PSX weather screen and change something to cause PSX to update X-Plane's weather.
Hi,
Xview is only for windows or there will exist a version for Mac?
@+
See thread PSX on Mac scenery options
Hi,
im getting a crash when loading xplane:
Problem signature:
Problem Event Name: APPCRASH
Application Name: X-Plane.exe
Application Version: 10.3.0.8
Application Timestamp: 53e3345e
Fault Module Name: win.xpl
Fault Module Version: 0.0.0.0
Fault Module Timestamp: 52eb1ca6
Exception Code: c0000005
Exception Offset: 0000000000035004
OS Version: 6.1.7601.2.1.0.256.48
Locale ID: 2057
Additional Information 1: c952
Additional Information 2: c952ec7afd280c0ce7a9b7e224e601cb
Additional Information 3: b345
Additional Information 4: b3457953e065a0c11c4bd2ce205a6e30
Hi,
To avoid problem with XView while not using the PSX+X-Plane integration i recommend you all do this:
Don't install the win.xpl (the plugin) on resources/plugins (this will avoid load this plugin in all aircrafts).
Install it inside the plugins folder that exist in the provided aircraft (PSX Plane).
The full path will be for 64 bits:
X-Plane 10\\Aircraft\\PSX Plane\\plugins\\XView\\64\\win.xpl
or for 32 bits
X-Plane 10\\Aircraft\\PSX Plane\\plugins\\XView\\32\\win.xpl
you can also install both xpl's files. The 64bits version to 64 folder and the 32 version to 32 folder. The X-Plane when running choose the correct folder/file.
With this, the XView plugin only run when you load this "special" aircraft. So only load it in your X-Plane + PSX sessions, when using X-Plane without PSX, don't load this aircraft and everything works without problems as before.
Regards
Tércio
P.S: Mike, Thank You about this plugin it works like a charm!!!! the sync is impressive, not as older PS1.3 + X-Plane integration that created many offset problems. With XView it join the best of 2 worlds, the best airliner simulation with the best world 3d representation and fluidity (without stutter).
Thank You very much for this wonderfull add on, it works very nice .
Ivo
Quote from: GodAtumHi,
im getting a crash when loading xplane:
Make sure you have downloaded the latest version of XView, which was uploaded a couple of weeks ago. See XView release notes on the ftp server.
Hi Tercio,
Good suggestion. I will update the manual.
Mike
X-Plane 10.3 beta 8 has been released by Laminar Research which includes a fix for the long-standing Botany Bay problem and many other scenery updates.
http://developer.x-plane.com/
Mike
Hi Mike!
And XView v1.01 has been fully tested OK with that same X-Plane 10.30b8 since yesterday evening! So: all good...
Hi Mike,
Much better is if "PSX Plane" already includes the 2 plugins (32 and 64 bits) inside the zip with the structure that i told. Then the installation will be only unzip the zip file to the x-plane aircraft folder (nothing more). As simple as that, no need to rename files and copy separate files.
Best regards
Tercio
One slight problem with that is the size of the PSX Plane file. At getting on for 100Mb, it is a lot to download for any update of an imbedded XView.xpl. Again, a good idea though.
Quote from: GodAtumI'm getting a crash when loading xplane.
Has your problem now gone away?
Mike
Quote from: mikeindevonQuote from: GodAtumI'm getting a crash when loading xplane.
Has your problem now gone away?
Mike
yes i ahd to delte xsqwuarkbox
There was a problem with V1.00 if the number of traffic planes was greater than 6, although it says max is 7 in the user guide.
V1.01 corrects that and limits the number of planes to seven in XView. Do you see the problem with 1.01 and XSquawkbox?
Mike
Quote from: mikeindevonThere was a problem with V1.00 if the number of traffic planes was greater than 6, although it says max is 7 in the user guide.
V1.01 corrects that and limits the number of planes to seven in XView. Do you see the problem with 1.01 and XSquawkbox?
Mike
My experience has been that XSquawkbox is rather unstable and crash-prone in XP10.30.x 64-bit, no matter what other plugins may be installed. I have problems with it even if it is the only non-default plugin. Hopefully the new Vatsim client under development ("Swift") will solve that problem.
Hi Mike,
to avoid that, use the zip of the aircraft related to the x-plane folder root.
When you unzip it to x-plane root it creates:
aircraft/PSX Plane/
and the a separated zip with only plugin that goes to that airplane but related also to x-plane root:
aricraft\\PSX Plane\\plugins\\XView\\
then you will have 2 separated zips that we only need to unzip them to the root of x-plane and after that we will have the aircraft and the plugin in the correct place. when need for a update of only the plugin only download the plugin zip and unzip to root and replace the files.
best regards
i am having issues with Xplane views. Everytime I click on layout 1, 2 or 3 the view in Xplane changes. I have disabled the numpad views.
Also clouds keep popping in and out. Not sure if there is a clash between xplane and PSX weather?
And can I download new liveries for the special 747 model?
XPlane Views - Read section 7 of the XView User Guide. Side views are a feature, but you can turn them off if you want to.
Clouds - Can you be more specific. Nobody else has raised this as a problem.
Liveries - PSX Plane is a substantial modification of the X-Plane stock 747-400 United, although the shape of the plane has not changed. Texture files have been enhanced using Photoshop to provide better lighting effects. You would loose this if you changed the livery.
If you have another livery file you could edit the texture files in Photoshop to replace the livery image - but there is a steep learning curve for this stuff. If you can put it on a server that I can access, I will have a look and see whether or not it is feasible.
Hi GodAtum!
For liveries, all the ones designed for X-Plane 10's default 747 are fully fine for XView's "PSX Plane". I have 10-15 ones in the "liveries" folder of "PSX Plane" (mostly found on x-plane.org website) and all's OK.
But I admit I very rarely watch the airplane from outside...
For disabling the remote X-Plane wiews switching from PSx layout change, I confirm it works, just (un)check it from XView plugin options. Just restart X-Plane in cars your choice doesn't seem to follow...
Clouds popping in? PSx is the master for weather, so disable X-Plane "real weather" (from quickflight setup). Clouds may be popping out and back in when PSx reloads METARs if you're using real weather within PSx.
Quote from: Pierre TheillereHi GodAtum!
For liveries, all the ones designed for X-Plane 10's default 747 are fully fine for XView's "PSX Plane". I have 10-15 ones in the "liveries" folder of "PSX Plane" (mostly found on x-plane.org website) and all's OK.
But I admit I very rarely watch the airplane from outside...
For disabling the remote X-Plane wiews switching from PSx layout change, I confirm it works, just (un)check it from XView plugin options. Just restart X-Plane in cars your choice doesn't seem to follow...
Clouds popping in? PSx is the master for weather, so disable X-Plane "real weather" (from quickflight setup). Clouds may be popping out and back in when PSx reloads METARs if you're using real weather within PSx.
Thanks for the info. How do i disable Xplane weather entirely?
I just need the correct liveries for online flying :)
Hi Pierre,
Using another livery you will loose some of the modifications I made to the texture files.
Mike
I believe that your own local "real" livery is not necessarily the one that other people online see, right? What syncs up the livery? Just a name somewhere in SquawkBox?
Hoppie
GodAtum,
I never said to disable X-Plane weather, I wrote about disabling X-Plane real-world weather.
As already said, the easiest way to change that, is from "QuickFlight setup" (click with your finger on the left mouse button, putting the mouse arrow on the checkbox to uncheck the "use real weather"), but obviously you can change it from... the weather menu. (same method for clicking)
I will wait for people to make compatible livery :)
cant wait to get a 2nd PC, running Xplane in windowed mode halves my FPS!
Hi Tercio,
I have tried out your suggestion for the placement of the XView folder in the PSX Plane plugin folder and of course it works as you say it should.
One slight snag is that if you then change from the PSX plane to another, the XView plugin is still in the plugin menu. If you attempt to open its settings window, you crash X-Plane - obviously because it is trying to call a .dll that doesn't exist.
Sure it is a silly thing to do, but I don't want to give the opportunity for users to crash X-Plane. It's a shame because I liked the idea.
Mike
Works absolutely perfect, - Thank you..
Hi Mike,
It's true, but its a X-Plane fault, not yours or xview plugin. Also it avoids the influence of xview while using x-plane alone with other aircrafts. The important thing is to remember: Only use the psx aircraft in x-plane + psx sessions, and after that quit from x-plane if you want to use it alone with other add-ons.
With best regards
Tércio
Just spent a delightful evening savoring PSX like a fine glass of wine, carefully getting all my initial settings, USB controllers and default preferences "just so". I'm delighted to report that on my system, my preliminary test of XView worked perfectly with XP10.30B8.
I have a Sandy Bridge 2600K running at 4.0 GHz, 16 GB of system RAM with a GTX770 4GB GPU driving two 28 inch monitors. The PSX-XP interconnection worked great, running PSX on one monitor, and XP on the other.
I haven't actually flown the combo yet, but did load PSX at KDTW on the threshold of runway 22L, started the engines and taxied to my desired starting gate, then parked and set up a custom cold and dark situation. The PSXPlane 747 model tracked with PSX perfectly, all lights and animations worked as advertised, and PSX-XP weather injection worked fine. I am using Tercio's suggestion of putting XView into the plugin folder of THe PSXPlane aircraft itself, and it worked well.
Thanks Mike for creating this fine program, looking forward to giving the combo a full flight test tomorrow, and will be testing XSquawkbox at the same time.
Jim Barrett
Quote from: JRBarrettI have a Sandy Bridge 2600K running at 4.0 GHz, 16 GB of system RAM with a GTX770 4GB GPU driving two 28 inch monitors. The PSX-XP interconnection worked great, running PSX on one monitor, and XP on the other.
Do you run Xplane in a window mode? Unfortunately the FPS halves if I move the mouse over to PSX so I have to run PSX on another PC.
Quote from: Tércio Sampaio... and after that quit from x-plane if you want to use it alone with other add-ons.
... but load another aircraft before you quit (otherwise X-Plane will pick up XView again next time it loads).
Quote from: GodAtumDo you run Xplane in a window mode? Unfortunately the FPS halves if I move the mouse over to PSX so I have to run PSX on another PC.
This shouldn't happen. I manage to run X-Plane in the top half of my screen and PSX in the bottom. The windows can overlap. There is no difference in frame rate wherever the mouse pointer is.
From what I remember of a previous post of yours, you have plenty of cores available. Start the windows task manager and have a look at the performance tab. You should see the cpu utilisation by core there. Perhaps that will give us a clue.
Mike
Quote from: mikeindevonQuote from: GodAtumDo you run Xplane in a window mode? Unfortunately the FPS halves if I move the mouse over to PSX so I have to run PSX on another PC.
This shouldn't happen. I manage to run X-Plane in the top half of my screen and PSX in the bottom. The windows can overlap. There is no difference in frame rate wherever the mouse pointer is.
From what I remember of a previous post of yours, you have plenty of cores available. Start the windows task manager and have a look at the performance tab. You should see the cpu utilisation by core there. Perhaps that will give us a clue.
Mike
Thanks for your info. I will continue with support on the Xplane forums.
Quote from: mikeindevonQuote from: Tércio Sampaio... and after that quit from x-plane if you want to use it alone with other add-ons.
... but load another aircraft before you quit (otherwise X-Plane will pick up XView again next time it loads).
I have XP configured to always show during start-up the menu where one can choose the aircraft, starting airport, time of day and weather. Even though that menu will show that the last-loaded aircraft was PSXPlane, if I choose a different ACF from this menu (typically the default 172) it loads fine.
Quote from: GodAtumQuote from: JRBarrettI have a Sandy Bridge 2600K running at 4.0 GHz, 16 GB of system RAM with a GTX770 4GB GPU driving two 28 inch monitors. The PSX-XP interconnection worked great, running PSX on one monitor, and XP on the other.
Do you run Xplane in a window mode? Unfortunately the FPS halves if I move the mouse over to PSX so I have to run PSX on another PC.
I do run XP in windowed mode (with a maximized frame to fill the monitor). I do that in order to be able to run the XP graphics on my 2nd monitor - if I select full screen, it insists on being on monitor number one. However I have absolutely no frame rate loss between maximized window vs. full-screen modes, nor does the frame rate drop if I move the focus to the PSX window on monitor number one.
I should mention that my OS is Windows 7-64.
Found a little glitch tonight on my first flight using XView in conjunction with XSquawkbox.
Everything worked fine insofar as being able to connect to VATSIM. It was a relatively short flight from KDTW to KATL. I was using Vat-Spy to monitor my progress.
Once airborne, I checked my reported position. Altitude was correct, as was my current heading and position enroute, but groundspeed showed zero. This apparently is not an XSquawkbox-specific problem, because I also link X-Plane to the Foreflight app on my iPad, to use it as a moving map. Same thing was noted in Foreflight. The current altitude, heading and position was being continuously transmitted in real time, but groundspeed showed zero throughout the entire flight.
I realize that this may be an expected result, due to the way in which XView controls the aircraft model, but then again, perhaps not. I am running X-Plane 10.30B8 - I imagine you developed the XView plugin using 10.25, and perhaps a dataref has changed in 10.30...
Hi JRBarrett,
I have the same issue when using X-Ivap on Ivao, with Xview and X-Plane X.
The groundspeed shows zero on webeye.
Stephane
Before people ask, in VATSIM/IVAO, the ground speed is not calculated by the ground system using distance between radar plots and time, but it is indeed transmitted by the client to overcome network hiccups.
Apparently the client fishes for ground speed in X-Plane, which does not have it, possibly because it has been reduced to a flying camera. However theoretically if it has KIAS, it should also be able to get GND.
Just 0.01.
Hoppie
TAS + headwind = GS
Quote from: Jeroen HoppenbrouwersBefore people ask, in VATSIM/IVAO, the ground speed is not calculated by the ground system using distance between radar plots and time, but it is indeed transmitted by the client to overcome network hiccups.
Apparently the client fishes for ground speed in X-Plane, which does not have it, possibly because it has been reduced to a flying camera. However theoretically if it has KIAS, it should also be able to get GND.
Just 0.01.
Hoppie
That appears to be the case. I enabled the X-Plane on-screen display of internal data during the flight, and looked at the airspeed and Mach variables, and they both read zero. Since the heading, lat/lon position and altitude of the physical X-Plane 747 model are being directly controlled by PSX via XView, those do get passed along to XSquawkbox. I would think though, that X-Plane's awareness of IAS, TAS, and GS would ordinarily come from the internal data of its own loaded model, and those would not be present in what is essentially an unpowered "flying camera" as you said.
If this is indeed the case, perhaps there is a way for XView to extract and pass along PSX's own air data in the same way that it reads control surface and gear position and external lighting from PSX?
I'm having trouble getting XView to work. In Windows 7 I start PSX and start the boost server. On the same machine I then run Xplane and choose the PSX Plane aircraft (having renamed XView64.xpl and put in a plugins/Xview/64 directory) but the 747 just sits on the default Xplane runway and there is no connection to PSX.
If I look in the Xplane plugins menu I don't see the option to configure XView but if I choose Plugin Admin then Enable/Disable it shows 747Rollon as enabled. Under plugin info it gives a path to the win.xpl fie and says it's enabled.
Am I missing something obvious? Thanks.
Martin,
If you don't see XView in the list of plugins, then the win.xpl cannot be installed properly. Check your setup against the details in the documentation. Let me know if you still have problems.
Mike
Quote from: mikeindevonMartin,
If you don't see XView in the list of plugins, then the win.xpl cannot be installed properly. Check your setup against the details in the documentation. Let me know if you still have problems.
Mike
Thanks Mike. It's listed as a plugin but doesn't have its own sub-heading in the plugins menu. Just to be clear I downloaded Xview.xpl (right-click/save as) then created 2 new folders in resources/plugins, namely /xview/64 and dropped the file in there, then renamed it to win.xpl
It's listed as an 'xpl' file and is 139kb in size. Does that all sound correct?
Quote from: martinbakerIn Windows 7 I start PSX and start the boost server.
Do you also start the
main server? All add-ons use the
main network.
The
boost server is required
additionally.
Regards,
|-|ardy
Quote from: Hardy HeinlinQuote from: martinbakerIn Windows 7 I start PSX and start the boost server.
Do you also start the main server? All add-ons use the main network.
The boost server is required additionally.
Regards,
|-|ardy
Yes, they are both running, though I hadn't realised
main server was a necessity so thanks for clarifying that. (And I've got a windows PSX coupled to a mac PSX as well as a mac to mac, so the internal PSX seems to be properly configured, which is great - the issue here must be on the xplane/xview side.)
Thanks,
Martin
Further to this I've tried opening the 32-bit version of Xplane. Without the XView32 installed it starts up fine, but with Xview32 (renamed as win.xpl) in the correct directory the programme crashes on start-up and leaves 2 files in the main Xplane directory: XViewDebug.txt and XViewLog.txt. Neither of these files is created if I open Xplane in 64 bit.
Does this give any clue as to what might be the problem?
M
And here's a link to my XView plug-in folder in case anyone is able to see if there's a problem:
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/gxdgi3433gv7d7t/AABM3lL0u3Rw0ruqj6kVzfuTa?dl=0
Martin,
As you say it is definately a problem with your X-Plane set-up rather than PSX. You don't usually need to worry about the servers - XView picks them up automatically.
When you say "it is listed as a plugin", where exactly do you see this list? If you go to the plugins menu and select "plugin admin, plugin information", do you see it in that list? You should also see it if you just click the Plugins menu option. It should be listed underneath Plugin Admin. Mine appears as:
XView 1.0 (Enabled)
D:\\X-Plane\\Resources\\plugins\\XView\\64\\win.xpl
etc
It's got to be something dead simple. If you have checked the directory, and the spelling of the directory (no spaces have crept in, upper/lower case issues), you are running windows and the 64 bit version of X-Plane, you renamed XView64.xpl to win.xpl (not XView32.xpl), and you have enough memory, then I am stumped. The file size at 139Kb is correct. I can only suggest downloading it again as perhaps the download was corrupted somehow.
I will download a copy now and check it hasn't got corrupted on the server somehow. I haven't altered it since I uploaded 1.01 some weeks ago.
Mike
Hi Martin,
Our posts crossed.
I have downloaded your copy of win.xpl and done a HEX comparison. There are loads of differences with my copy, so I suggest downloading the original again.
Let me know.
Mike
My testing is going well. Did the longest commercial flight from YSSY - KDFW, 15 hours straight, no lag and FPS in Xplane was stable :D
Martin,
I may be mis-leading you. Perhaps my copy has been recompiled since the official release. I can confirm that the version currently on the server is fine as I have just downloaded it and installed it.
Mike
Quote from: GodAtumMy testing is going well. Did the longest commercial flight from YSSY - KDFW, 15 hours straight, no lag and FPS in Xplane was stable :D
Great. The latest X-Plane beta has Botany Bay back - a huge improvement. I am sure you have that already.
Mike
Martin, I have checked your version against the server version and it is identical. No need to download again. Mike
Quote from: JRBarrettThe current altitude, heading and position was being continuously transmitted in real time, but groundspeed showed zero throughout the entire flight.
I do not pass the groundspeed to XP as it is not necessary to produce the view. However, now that this requirement has been pointed out, I will make the update in the next release. It is simple to do, provided that XP does not block it in some way.
Are there other data items that you need? Does the lack of groundspeed make VATSIM flights impossible?
Mike
Not impossible.
Since the VATSIM system does not calculate ground speed by comparing radar return distances in time, but instead uses the reported ground speed from the client to have a more reliable readout under network stress, most radar controllers will get erroneous results on their display. They typically do complain as they would do on missing Mode-C transponder data.
Hoppie
Controllers do like to see the groundspeed for sequencing :) Especially in WorldFlight. ;)
Quote from: mikeindevonQuote from: GodAtumMy testing is going well. Did the longest commercial flight from YSSY - KDFW, 15 hours straight, no lag and FPS in Xplane was stable :D
Great. The latest X-Plane beta has Botany Bay back - a huge improvement. I am sure you have that already.
Mike
Yay! I must grab it!
Quote from: John GolinControllers do like to see the groundspeed for sequencing :) Especially in WorldFlight. ;)
Pft.
"Speedbird 744, cleared for the visual caution wake turbulence you're overtaking a 737 MARSA and see ya."
Quote from: mikeindevonMartin, I have checked your version against the server version and it is identical. No need to download again. Mike
Thanks for checking. It seems that I've done everything correctly but there's still a problem. The closest I got was starting XPlane with Cessna in 32 bit and with the Xview folder moved to the Xplane 747 directory, then loading the Xplane 747 after the prog has started. When I did this without PSX boost running it worked fine and I saw the Xview menu, but as soon as I turned on the network boost Xplane crashed. In 64 bit I don't get even this, just the plugin admin enable/disable which shows 747JRollon as enabled but it doesn't give the actual XView menu.
One thing I haven't specifically mentioned is that I'm running this on an iMac which is booting up into Windows. Could there be memory allocation issues? I'm an OSX person so know nothing about how W handles these things - do you know of any memory settings I could change that might be worth a try?
M
Quote from: mikeindevonQuote from: JRBarrettThe current altitude, heading and position was being continuously transmitted in real time, but groundspeed showed zero throughout the entire flight.
I do not pass the groundspeed to XP as it is not necessary to produce the view. However, now that this requirement has been pointed out, I will make the update in the next release. It is simple to do, provided that XP does not block it in some way.
Are there other data items that you need? Does the lack of groundspeed make VATSIM flights impossible?
Mike
Yes, lack of ground speed might be an issue - especially when airspace is busy. I had a situation last night where I lost my ground speed output using TrafficPSX. The controller who had me on his scope did notice. I posted my experience in another thread regarding "Stress testing the network".
The controller who pointed it out wasn't upset - he just wanted to let me know - and I was just about to leave his airspace in any case.
Thanks for looking into a way to pass through ground speed to the XSquawkbox client. I'll be happy to test this when the update is released.
Quote from: mikeindevonMartin, I have checked your version against the server version and it is identical. No need to download again. Mike
I deleted and reinstalled Xplane but the problem persists: in 64bit it doesn't recognise the plugin and in 32bit it crashes when I load the XView plane. Here is the log from both recent attempts to start it up in case that gives a clue as to what lies behind the problem. Thanks! M
https://www.dropbox.com/s/j180ki7cyk4e1qk/Log.txt?dl=0
Martin,
Thanks for that.
It seems that XView has loaded ok, but the error messages at the end suggest that it can't find certain images. This is normal as I have hacked out parts of the plane that are not needed. I get the same error messages and mine works fine, so this is not the issue.
It would be interesting to do the following. all using the 64-bit version
1. Remove the plugin XView from the directory (eg just rename win.xpl nowin.xpl)
2. Delete X-Plane.prf from the Output, Preferences directory
3. Run X-Plane, select any aircraft but the PSX Plane
4. Move plane to FSIA (scenery loads fast here)
5. Exit X-Plane
Upload again the Log.txt file so that I can have a look at it.
Are you booting your Mac directly into Windows or are you running an emulator? under IOS?
Quote from: mikeindevonAre you booting your Mac directly into Windows or are you running an emulator? under IOS?
I'm booting the mac directly into Windows 7 without running OSX & an emulator.
I've done as you asked and here's the new log file - using the 64 bit version of Xplane.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/j180ki7cyk4e1qk/Log.txt?dl=0Thanks so much for taking the time to help. M
And having reinstalled XView and started Xplane again the log file now contains these lines which seem significant:
Fetching plugins for C:\\Users/MBWindows/Desktop/X-Plane 10/Resources/plugins
Loaded: C:\\Users/MBWindows/Desktop/X-Plane/10/Resources/plugins/PluginAdmin/64/win.xpl.
C:\\Users/MBWindows/Desktop/X-Plane 10/Resources/plugins/Xview/64/win.xpl : Error Code = 126 : The specified module could not be found.
Quote from: martinbakerLoaded: C:Users/MBWindows/Desktop/X-Plane/10/Resources/plugins/PluginAdmin/64/win.xpl.
The directory here is different from the others "X-Plane/10/" versus "X-Plane 10/" - maybe just a typo though if you copied the log out by hand.
Mike
Have a look at this link ...
http://forums.x-plane.org/?showtopic=50280
Could be the problem.
Quote from: mikeindevonThe directory here is different from the others "X-Plane/10/" versus "X-Plane 10/" - maybe just a typo though if you copied the log out by hand.
Mike
Sorry, yes that was a typo. Good news, tho - problem solved - I found the thread below and the same happened to Markus a couple of years ago!
http://aerowinx.com/forum/topic.php?id=1004So I've used the same solution and now it's all working! :D
Super. I hope you have fun with it. Mike
Martin,
Just a follow up, can you let me know exactly what software you were missing and I will include some instructions about this problem in the documentation.
Mike
Quote from: mikeindevonMartin,
Just a follow up, can you let me know exactly what software you were missing and I will include some instructions about this problem in the documentation.
Mike
Yes it was this:
http://www.microsoft.com/download/en/details.aspx?id=5555It was actually you who suggested it, but over 2 years ago. ;)
As an aside, I flew over NYC last night with XView and frame rate was lower than 10 - it's the same without Xview by the way, I just checked. But on the same machine booted into OSX with the same rendering settings I'm getting frame rates of 70 to 100! (PSX in Windows was performing superbly at 72fps by the way.) So if you ever do get a chance to develop an XView for OSX, I for one would be very happy!!
M
I need to buy a MAC mini, but it has been out for two years, so perhaps I will hang on a month or two to see if a better one gets announced. 8)
Hi Thanks for XView, it is working, but I have some issues --
When I turn on the landing lights the lights turn on, but automatically turn off within 1 second in XP10. The switch on the overhead in PSX remains in the 'on' position.
Loading scenarios -- For some reason when I load the scenarios with XP the aircraft is not configured correctly (ILS is not aligned correctly for example on final approach) -- it is like the aircraft is still in cold and dark.
I would appreciate any help to solve these issues -- thank you.
Ben
Hi all, retested and still having the same issue with landing lights :-\\
Here is my XViewLog, everything is running on one computer.
Local time and date : Sun Aug 31 01:49:09 2014
XView Version 1.01
HEADER = "XView Configuration File Sun Aug 31 01:18:37 2014"
SETTINGS_PATH = ""
BOOST_ADDRESS = "127.0.0.1 : 10749" ; IP address
MAIN_ADDRESS = "127.0.0.1 : 10747" ; IP address
SMOOTH_TRAJECTORY = FALSE ; Extrapolate between PSX updates (default: FALSE)
DO_ANIMATIONS = TRUE ; Animate external view, eg gear, etc(default: TRUE)
DO_LIGHTS = TRUE ; Animate lights (default: TRUE)
INJECT_ELEVATION = TRUE ; Set to true to send scenery elevation to Main server
PSX_TRAFFIC = 7 ; Set to the number of traffic planes you want driven by PSX (max 7)
SIDE_VIEWS = TRUE ; Set TRUE to allow PSX to set X-Plane view angle
Debug file opened
Can't find DataRef for number 5 :
Can't find DataRef for number 90 :
Can't find DataRef for number 92 :
Can't find DataRef for number 93 :
Can't find DataRef for number 94 :
Sun Aug 31 01:49:09 2014 Connected to Boost server
Sun Aug 31 01:49:09 2014 Connected to Main server
PSX Version 10.0.0
18 lexicon lines processed
Sun Aug 31 01:49:10 2014 Injector thread launched
Failed to find dataref editor
0 lexicon lines processed
0 lexicon lines processed
X-Plane has stopped us
Configuration settings saved
Sun Aug 31 02:10:50 2014 Disconnected from Boost server
Sun Aug 31 02:10:51 2014 Closed injector thread
Sun Aug 31 02:10:52 2014 Closed Boost thread
Sun Aug 31 02:10:52 2014 Disconnected from Main server
Sun Aug 31 02:10:53 2014 Closed Main thread
Sun Aug 31 02:10:56 2014 All threads stopped
---
Would the landing lights have anything to do with the missing DataRef?
Thank you.
I am away at the moment, but will have a look at your problem next weekend. It won't be the missing datarefs. Make sure you turned on animate lights in the settings window. Also use HDR rendering if possible.
Mike
Quote from: mikeindevonI am away at the moment, but will have a look at your problem next weekend. It won't be the missing datarefs. Make sure you turned on animate lights in the settings window. Also use HDR rendering if possible.
Mike
Thanks Mike, animation of lights is enabled in the settings Window, and HDR rendering is turned on.
Regards,
Ben
The key diagnostic is that the lexicon is not being read. This is essential to the whole set-up and nothing will work without it, apart from the Boost server positions. There is something wrong with your Main Server set-up. Can you let me have details of your software set-up - OS, language etc. Mike
Quote from: mikeindevonThe key diagnostic is that the lexicon is not being read. This is essential to the whole set-up and nothing will work without it, apart from the Boost server positions. There is something wrong with your Main Server set-up. Can you let me have details of your software set-up - OS, language etc. Mike
Hi Mike,
XP10.25, Aerowinx all reside on E:\\ , an SSD, Windows 7 64 bit on C:\\.
The computer is a 2500k Intel processor.
Everything runs on one computer with no network involvement.
Windows 7 is in English (United States), with location United States.
It is very strange that all the other lights work (runway, taxi, etc), with the exception of the Landing Lights. I believe something is toggling the landing lights off automatically in XP.
I also run ESET NOD32, but have disabled that with no changes.
I use to have XPUIPC installed, but have deleted that from my modules folder, again with no changes.
:-\
Jsut 100% confirming you are not using Router or SimSwitch inbetween? Only PSX and XView?
Yes, only PSX and XView.
Quote from: mikeindevonThe XView User Guide is now available at ftp://larkshayes.com.
Username : xview@larkshayes.com
Password : 747Pilot
The software will be loaded in the same place later in July.
Mike
I would like to use this program but after I connect the only file I can see is .ftpquota which doesn't seem right. Am I doing something wrong during the connection process?
Put the ftp:.// ... in your browser address window and then you should see a login screen where you type the username and password. Mike
Quote from: OmniAtlasYes, only PSX and XView.
The problem is with the main server connection. XView is not receiving any message to turn the lights on. I don't expect any animations work either. Try turning the PS X time from day to night. This should be mirrored in XP.
What IP are you using for the main server? 127.0.0.1? Check the connecton status in PSX network tab and XView settings. Try running witjout the boost server as abtest.
Mike
Hi Mike,
The ip of my computer is 10.0.1.5; I have change the settings in XView to reflect this, but there is no difference when using 127.0.0.1 (localhost) or 10.0.1.5
I have uploaded a youtube video to give you a better idea --
http://youtu.be/WSSfrR4BNns
Thanks,
Ben
Quote from: mikeindevonPut the ftp:.// ... in your browser address window and then you should see a login screen where you type the username and password. Mike
Mike,
I am getting logged in just fine but the directory listing only shows three things -
FTP root at
larkshayes.comTo view this FTP site in File Explorer: press Alt, click View, and then click Open FTP Site in File Explorer.
09/02/2014 05:06AM Directory .
09/02/2014 05:06AM Directory ..
09/02/2014 05:06AM 4 .ftpquota
That's all I see. I'm using IE 11 on Windows 7.
Scott
EDIT: I tried it from my iMac and get similar results - just a 4 byte file called .ftpquota is all that's visible.
Hi Ben,
I have seen the video.Seems like the main server is on as you can switch taxi lights etc. I can't try it until the weekend, sorry. Are you using a particular situation?
Mike
Scott,
I can't try it until the weekend. Perhaps all you guys have bust my download limit. I will have a look Saturday.
Mike
Google Drive or OneDrive allow public sharing - just dump it there, rightclick, share :)
Quote from: mikeindevonHi Ben,
I have seen the video.Seems like the main server is on as you can switch taxi lights etc. I can't try it until the weekend, sorry. Are you using a particular situation?
Mike
I saved a cold and dark situation, but have tried it with the different program departure situations with the same results.
I reinstalled PSX with the same problem.
It seems the landing lights is not isolated to XP10 -- I just noticed with Prepar3D 2.3 using VisualPSX they do not turn on at all.
Please can you email me your situation file that shows this problem. My email address is my username on this forum at hotmail.com
Quote from: mikeindevonPlease can you email me your situation file that shows this problem. My email address is my username on this forum at hotmail.com
hi Mike, the situation file is the default Sydney to LAX route included with PSX. I will email you the file when I have access to my home station
Thanks.
Played around -- seems like regardless of the model or situation file I load, landing lights still do not turn on permanently. They flick on, then turn back off.
I am able to turn the landing lights on if I go to the Forward view with the Panel and turn the lights on with the virtual cockpit.
First, thanks for that great addon!
I have a weird problem. Configuration changes are not saved on exit and changes I make in the ini before X-Plane startup are overwritten (e.g. can't change the number of traffic aircrafts) with the defaults each time.
Weather transfer, landings lights, flap movement etc. are working fine.
Do you have any idea what I am doing wrong?
Bernd
PS: This is my log file:
Local time and date : Mon Sep 08 21:17:04 2014
XView Version 1.01
HEADER = "XView Configuration File Mon Sep 08 21:10:38 2014"
SETTINGS_PATH = ""
BOOST_ADDRESS = "127.0.0.1 : 10749" ; IP address
MAIN_ADDRESS = "127.0.0.1 : 10747" ; IP address
SMOOTH_TRAJECTORY = FALSE ; Extrapolate between PSX updates (default: FALSE)
DO_ANIMATIONS = TRUE ; Animate external view, eg gear, etc(default: TRUE)
DO_LIGHTS = TRUE ; Animate lights (default: TRUE)
INJECT_ELEVATION = TRUE ; Set to true to send scenery elevation to Main server
PSX_TRAFFIC = 1 ; Set to the number of traffic planes you want driven by PSX (max 7)
SIDE_VIEWS = FALSE ; Set TRUE to allow PSX to set X-Plane view angle
Debug file opened
Can't find DataRef for number 5 :
Can't find DataRef for number 90 :
Can't find DataRef for number 92 :
Can't find DataRef for number 93 :
Can't find DataRef for number 94 :
Mon Sep 08 21:17:04 2014 Connected to Boost server
Mon Sep 08 21:17:04 2014 Connected to Main server
PSX Version 10.0.1-alpha11
18 lexicon lines processed
Mon Sep 08 21:17:05 2014 Injector thread launched
Failed to find dataref editor
Released planes
X-Plane has stopped us
Configuration settings saved
Mon Sep 08 21:18:59 2014 Disconnected from Boost server
Mon Sep 08 21:19:00 2014 Closed Boost thread
Mon Sep 08 21:19:01 2014 Closed injector thread
Mon Sep 08 21:19:02 2014 Disconnected from Main server
Mon Sep 08 21:19:02 2014 Closed Main thread
Mon Sep 08 21:19:05 2014 All threads stopped
Mon Sep 08 21:19:05 2014 Thank you for flying with XView
Hi Bernd,
Your log shows that a configuration file was written, see just after the "X-Plane has stopped us line".
Are you sure that you have been editing the right copy of XView.cfg? It lives in the X-Plane root directory.
XView carries out the following procedure with regard to the configuration file:
- set default values
- read in user XView.cfg and update values (note if not found default values remain)
- during the run update configuration with any changes made in the settings window
- at end of run, write out current values of the configuration to XView.cfg.
Check the date/time of your XView.cfg that you are editing. It should have the time of the latest run. Try updating your configuration by using the settings window.
Hope you get it sorted.
Mike
Quote from: mikeindevonHi Bernd,
Your log shows that a configuration file was written, see just after the "X-Plane has stopped us line".
Are you sure that you have been editing the right copy of XView.cfg? It lives in the X-Plane root directory.
Thanks for the quick reply!
The XView.cfg is completely rewritten every time I use X-Plane and contains only the default config. The location is in the main X-Plane directory. Changes outside of X-Plane are discarded/ignored.
When X-Plane is running, I can change the options via the menu and they stay until restart (never make it into the config file). The only thing I can't change (even in-game) is the # of planes that should be injected (stays at 1).
I put the plugin into the aircraft's plugin directory, not in the main plugin one. Could that cause a problem?
Thanks,
Bernd
Putting the plugin with the plane does not make any difference on my set-up.
It sounds as though your configuration file is not being read for some reason. I can only think of three possibilities: it is in the wrong directory, the filename is spelled incorrectly (a blank at the end perhaps), or it is in the wrong format (create it with Notepad, not with Word)
I would suggest moving the plugin to the main plugin directory. I would also suggest deleting your XView.cfg file and let XView create a new one. If this doesn't help, try putting the path for the settings file in XView.cfg explicitely.
The XView settings window value for the number of traffic aircraft just alters the number of aircraft details exchanged between PSX and XView. It does not alter the number of traffic planes that X-Plane actually draws. You have to set that in the X-Plane Aircraft menu. (Aircraft, Aircraft & situations, Other Aircraft). Obviously it is best to set the two entries the same.
Mike
@mikeindevon
I tried moving the plugin to the main plugin directory, deleting all my other plugins, removing the space in the directory name, etc. Nothing worked.
On X-Plane exit a new config file was written _every_ time.
So I thought, why not mark the file read-only? I changedPSX_TRAFFIC = 1 to PSX_TRAFFIC = 7and marked XView.cfg read-only and started X-Plane.
Now XView actually read my config and the number of planes was shown as 7 in the settings menu. As soon as I ticked the option to show XP traffic my AI started to show up in PSX! :)
Could you please tell me the parameter name to have XP traffic always enabled so that I may add it to my config file manually?
Thanks,
Bernd
Quote from: BerndoCould you please tell me the parameter name to have XP traffic always enabled so that I may add it to my config file manually?
I am afraid that the current version of XView does not read that parameter from the configuration file. The only way to set it is via the settings window. I will add this functionality in the next version.
I am glad that you at least have a work-around for your configuration file problem. It must be something to do with your system. I cannot reproduce the effect here and nobodyelse has reported this as a problem.
Best wishes,
Mike
Just to add my thanks and appreciation for this add-on!
As I am running both PSX and X-plane on one machine, I have chosen to create a separate instance of x-plane that has my controls disabled so that when I use controls - esp. hat switch, they do not interfere with x-plane view. Perhaps not necessary - not sure.
All I need now is my second monitor ;)
Regards
Carl
@Mike
Thanks for looking into adding this option in the next version.
I'm happy that the communication works and may be able to try it with IVAO over the weekend.
Thanks again,
Bernd
Hi, thanks for this great add-on. i been using it with no trouble so far! I have now moved onto flying PSX for my VAs. However their tracking software cannot tell that the PSX engines are on or off. I have tried FlyUK and Worldwide Virtual.
The tracking software (which uses XSUIPC) works with the default 747.
Just an update, PSX does not seem to interact with Xplane. I enabled speeds logging and the output when taxiing is 0.
Quote from: GodAtumJust an update, PSX does not seem to interact with Xplane. I enabled speeds logging and the output when taxiing is 0.
I can confirm that. Just now flying with X-Plane and IVAO. The GS logged by the IVAO tracker is 0kts.
Mike, is there any chance to fix that?
Bernd
Quote from: BerndoQuote from: GodAtumJust an update, PSX does not seem to interact with Xplane. I enabled speeds logging and the output when taxiing is 0.
I can confirm that. Just now flying with X-Plane and IVAO. The GS logged by the IVAO tracker is 0kts.
Mike, is there any chance to fix that?
Bernd
http://aerowinx.com/forum/topic.php?id=1911
Quote from: JRBarrettQuote from: BerndoI can confirm that. Just now flying with X-Plane and IVAO. The GS logged by the IVAO tracker is 0kts.
http://aerowinx.com/forum/topic.php?id=1911
Thanks, JRBarrett. I missed Mike's thread.
Bernd
Hi,
I use both prepar3D 2.2 and xplane 10.25 for scenery generator,
Is there a need to upgrade xplane to version 10.30 ?
Thinking of an old saying"don't fix things that ar not broken"
Thanks
Ivo
Hi Ivo!
I flew MMMX - LFPG last night, using X-Plane 10.20 rc2 (the same that has just been declared as "final" 10.30) slaved to PSx (10.0.1 alpa 15) via XView, and all went fine... so I guess you may confidently consider taking the step!
Thanks Pierre,
Just installed it.
Ivo
This looks really good, but I'm having trouble logging in to download the files. Has the user name or password changed? I appreciate your help.
Also, am I correct that two computers will be needed to make X-View work with PSX? I will be running PSX on a Mac.
Steve
XView is exclusively Windows at the moment. You can run both PSX and XView on one Win PC if it is powerful enough. If your PSX is on a Mac, then you will need a PC for XView.
I haven't changed the passwords etc on the download site. I cannot check it out until Monday, but others have put up the software elsewhere.
Mike
Here is a note from Pierre:
Hi Mike!
I still have the .zip for your current "PSX Plane", the plugin... and I have an edition of the manual, not sure it's the latest anyway! I've uploaded them.
Here are the links:
http://perso.numericable.com/pierre.theillere/PSX%20Plane%20Version%203.zip
http://perso.numericable.com/pierre.theillere/XView32.xpl
http://perso.numericable.com/pierre.theillere/XView64.xpl
http://perso.numericable.com/pierre.theillere/XView%20User%20Guide%20140708.pdf
_______________
Pierre, LFPG
« Last edit by pierre on Mon, 08 Sep 2014 20:27:44 +0000. »
Hello
In the X-Plane log, I get the following message:
Fetching plugins for C:\\X-Plane 10/Resources/plugins
Loaded: C:\\X-Plane 10/Resources/plugins/PluginAdmin/64/win.xpl (xpsdk.examples.pluginadmin).
C:\\X-Plane 10/Resources/plugins/XView/64/win.xpl : Error Code = 126 : The specified module could not be found.
EDIT: Solved! The solution was to install visual c++ redistributable 2010
And, I really have to get a better desktop - my i5 2500 k is showing it's age :-/
Have had the chance to run X-Plane 10 on an i7, with PSX on my ASUS laptop, and whow! what a difference, even with OSM scenery in the scenery generator machine!
It was rather smooth, and I could easily handfly even the most challenging SITUs.
On that same PC the user had P3D v2,3... What a slideshow :-/
Any chance this might be made to work on OSX?
I think I followed the instructions correctly.
I am running PSX and XPlane on the same PC for now just to get familiar with it.
When trying to load the Aircraft PSX Plane is get the following error message.
"I tried to open the plane, but could not:
Aircraft/Heavy Metal/PSX Plane/747-400 United.acf
This smacks of a corrupted airplane file... "
Any ideas anyone?
Greg
Works fine here, Greg. Perhaps the downloaded file got corrupted? Have you tried redownloading/unzipping the file?
Mike, if you'd like I'm happy to help out porting/building/testing this on OS X. Just had a quick look how to build plugins for X-Plane on OS X, shouldn't be much of a problem if you didn't use too many windows internal API's (and even then, I can probably find an equivalent way around in Apple world). Just email me at my username here @inside.net
Cheers
- Balt
Hi Balt,
I will send you an email shortly and we can see what we can work out for the benefit of the community.
All of the Microsoft specific stuff is in two libraries, one dealing with threads and the other with the comms. Perhaps you could convert those to OSX and create a .dll (or whatever terminology Apple uses). It's a couple of hundred lines of code in C++.
I will buy a Mac and port the rest. Any suggestions on what Mac I might buy? The requirements would be that it runs PSX well and will compile the software reasonably quickly. I don't want to buy the high end ash tray thingy because my performance machine is a PC and will remain so as I have a huge investment in various sorts of proprietary software.
Mike
Hi Mike!
Wow, that's really good news! Regarding which Mac to purchase, I'd say the cheapest MacBookAir is really enough for having a smooth PSx, and will handle X-Plane rather fine, with simple graphics settings. You may visit Apple's UK website, and make a search for "refurb" (in their built-in search engine, on top-right corner), it will lead you to their refurbished items: nearly all my Apple stuff came it that way, you'll save some £££ and items are fully new.
Oooh, last, but not least: could you add the possibility to disable (via a checkbox, and a line in the config file) the weather injection from PSx to X-Plane? It could be very useful, mostly when flying in real-weather, to avoid the brutal cloud transitions, and also benefit from X-Plane "not unlimited" visibility.
Hi Pierre,
The weather injection (and time) facility you request is in the final stages of testing. I have written to Ben this morning about the brutal weather transitions.
I was thinking about going for the mini as I don't need a screen and keyboard.
Mike
Hi Mike!
Aaaaah, you're right: a MacMini may be even cheaper, and also better suit your needs... and, apart for developing XView for Mac, it can be perfect for a media center, or even a stealth and silent PSx computer.
Amazing news for the weather stuff: the foggy autumn / winter conditions are soon there, and will be perfect for testing (and trying to break) it!
Hi Mike,
no problem, sounds like it'll be a breeze then. Both threading and comms should be straightforward to migrate to OS X.
The target OS however is OS X, not iOS. But I'm sure Apple is close to unifying the two (unfortunately).
Any recent generation Mac Mini should do the job for you, if it's just for building and testing X-Plane and PSX. PSX will run fine out of the box, X-Plane however won't perform ravishingly, as its OpenGL based graphics won't have hardware acceleration in the minis. Perhaps a Macbook Pro might be a better solution. If you're not into super huge resolution (2880x1800) and correspondingly vanishingly small pixel size, stay away from Retina displays (although I quite like PSX on mine I have to say!)
I see you're a retired physicist? What "branch" were you in? I'm in Astrophysics.
Cheers
- Balt
Mike,
a few days ago I had a conversation with a controller on IVAO. He couldn't see my speed or my altitude. Just now I got the same again from another controller.
The altitude only appears on the web-based tracker, not on their radar screens.
Is there any chance you could look into this please? (I know you're already talking with Ben about the GS problem)
Also, would it be possible to make the com radio frequencies writeable from X-Plane? This way we could tune with X-Ivap.
Thanks,
Bernd
Quote from: BerndoThe altitude only appears on the web-based tracker, not on their radar screens.
Bernd,
What altitude is reported on these screens? Is it the true altitude or as reported by the plane based on air pressure? There is a dataref ".../misc/h_ind". I could try writing to that. It really depends on how XSquawkbox works. Does it work ok if you run a stand-alone x-plane flight without XView/PSX?
This is a slightly different situation from the GS problem. Obviously I tell X-Plane what the true altitude is for it to draw the scenery. The problem with GS is that x-plane won't let you inject a value.
Quote from: BerndoAlso, would it be possible to make the com radio frequencies writeable from X-Plane?
I am not sure what you mean here. I set the frequencies in X-Plane form PSX. Do you want an option to turn that off, or do you want me to inject the comm values in x-plane into PSX?
Mike
Quote from: mikeindevonQuote from: BerndoThe altitude only appears on the web-based tracker, not on their radar screens.
Bernd,
What altitude is reported on these screens? Is it the true altitude or as reported by the plane based on air pressure? There is a dataref ".../misc/h_ind". I could try writing to that. It really depends on how XSquawkbox works. Does it work ok if you run a stand-alone x-plane flight without XView/PSX?
The altitude the controllers see is 0, e.g. I'm moving on their screen while being on the ground according to their read-out.
Also I'm using X-Ivap, not XSquawkbox.
Without XView/PSX I show up on their screens fine (according to them, can't verify it myself).
Quote from: mikeindevonQuote from: BerndoAlso, would it be possible to make the com radio frequencies writeable from X-Plane?
I am not sure what you mean here. I set the frequencies in X-Plane form PSX. Do you want an option to turn that off, or do you want me to inject the comm values in x-plane into PSX?
I'd like the last thing, ideally I'd want full communication in both ways.
-) I change the com radio freq in PSX, it is reflected in X-Plane.
-) I change the com radio freq in X-Plane, it is reflected in PSX.
That feature would really help me while flying online.
Thanks for your continued interest in my problems,
Bernd
I have looked at the X-Ivap website and the links to both the forum and staff are not working. Can you get me an email address of somebody I can talk to about their software?
You didn't quite give me the answer I needed to my question. Is the altitude the controllers should see the geometric height above the surface or the barometric altitude reported by the plane? This may help me find the right data ref.
If you are able to do the following, we might get a solution quicker. If you load the plugin DRE (Data Ref Editor) you can modify some of the X-Plane internals directly. If you did this during a controller session you might be able to locate which dtaref is supplying them with the necessary info. Even if we know this, there is no guarantee that LR lets us write to it.
Mike
Transponder mode C reports are always in barometric altitude, and technically in the real world always the altitude referenced to 1013/2992. The transponder does not follow the flight deck altimeter setting. I presume that IVAO uses the same principle.
Mike,
the e-mail for the Software Development Group is softdev@ivao.aero or you can contact them on the IVAO forums, though you need an IVAO account for that.
According to the question one controller asked me ("what is your QNH set to") I think it is the barometric altitude, but I wouldn't take that for granted. As you wrote, it will be much better to ask the SW Dev Group.
I installed the plugin, will look into it the next time when I'm flying under ATC control (though that will probably be next week).
As always, thanks for your quick responses,
Bernd
Hi Bernd,
I wrote to the guys at ivao and their reply is shown below. Can you check that you have done all this your end.
Mike
Quote ->
The first thing you need to check is if the ICAO flight plan information item 10b contains a valid entry for a - preferably Mode S - transponder with pressure altitude capabilities.
If this is not the case then we assume that the transponder is not capable of replying to Mode C interrogations (or UF5 Mode S interrogations) and as such we don't display altitude information.
This also means that a flight plan shall always be filed inside X-IVAP. (This is mandatory, also to be able to know what the intentions of the pilot are online)
Regarding the source of Mode C, we use the X-Plane SDK data points so if you see an altitude in the data monitoring it should be ok.
Good afternoon Mike,
I checked my X-IVAP flightplans, they were filed with transponder LB1, I'll change that to SB1.
If it was my fault, I'll hang my head in shame. :oops:
I'm going to post an update as soon as I've flown under ATC control again.
Bernd
I have uploaded Version 1.1 of XView at the same web address but in a separate directory.
The new features include:
- weather updating in XView better reflects settings in PSX
- options to turn off updating of weather, time and comms
- all options available from settings window and XView.cfg
- all options saved to XView.cfg
If you run XView/X-Plane once and close it, XView will update your XView.cfg file to include the new parameters.
Let me know of any problems.
Thank you for flying with XView.
Thanks, will give it a go tonight.
Preferable to copy it to X-Plane 10\\Aircraft\\Heavy Metal\\PSX Plane\\plugins\\XView\\64
and rename the plugin to win.xpl?
Regards.
Thank you very much Mike!
It's working even better than the previous version. Apparently ( might be placebo, but I don't think so ) it's even smoother ( ? )
Just performed that Kathmandu approach for testing, and WHOW!!! Well, I miss the snow in X-Plane's scenery, but we can't have it all :-)
Hi jcomm!
I had the very same impression, flying several approaches! I had deactivated the weather injection from PSx to X-Plane (using real-weather injection), and in that case we get the true limited visibility... maybe that's why it's smoother, having less things to compute.
I have to try VNKT with outside visuals...
I am having a problem with XView crashing XPlane. I have done some testing to discover that XPlane is stable until I connect the boost server. I have tried the boost server locally to PSX on the same machine on 127.0.0.1 and across the network with the same result. As soon as I try to connect the boost server the Xplane will grey out "not responding"
This is not at all airports but most are unstable.
Any thoughts about what could be causing this will be greatly appreciated.
Greg
Are you sure the boost server actually connected? If the connection is still pending due to network issues, it is possible that the whole thing hangs, waiting for the connection to complete.
Hoppie
Hi Hoppie, thanks for the reply. Yes it is crashing as Xplane often goes to the crash screen where you send the log file to Xplane. Other times it will just hang for ever. Once I waited 15min to see if it would come back but it never did. To get Xplane to start I will turn off PSX and then Xplane boots ok. Xplane on its own will jump to airports and not crash. My visuals pc is a i74790 and gsx780 card, 8gig ram and should be ok.
Greg.
This is the xview log file.. hope that helps.
Local time and date : Mon Oct 13 07:34:40 2014
XView Version 1.01
HEADER = "XView Configuration File Mon Oct 13 07:04:27 2014"
SETTINGS_PATH = ""
BOOST_ADDRESS = "127.0.0.1 : 10749" ; IP address
MAIN_ADDRESS = "10.1.1.101 : 10747" ; IP address
SMOOTH_TRAJECTORY = FALSE ; Extrapolate between PSX updates (default: FALSE)
DO_ANIMATIONS = TRUE ; Animate external view, eg gear, etc(default: TRUE)
DO_LIGHTS = TRUE ; Animate lights (default: TRUE)
INJECT_ELEVATION = TRUE ; Set to true to send scenery elevation to Main server
PSX_TRAFFIC = 4 ; Set to the number of traffic planes you want driven by PSX (max 7)
SIDE_VIEWS = FALSE ; Set TRUE to allow PSX to set X-Plane view angle
DO_TIME = TRUE ; Set true if PSX sets X-Plane time
DO_WEATHER = TRUE ; Set true if PSX sets X-Plane weather
DO_COMMS = FALSE ; Set true if PSX sets X-Plane comms
USE_PSX_TRAFFIC = TRUE ; Set true if PSX drives the traffic aircraft
USE_XP_TRAFFIC = FALSE ; Set true if XP drives the traffic aircraft
Debug file opened
Can't find DataRef for number 89 :
Can't find DataRef for number 90 :
Can't find DataRef for number 91 :
Can't find DataRef for number 92 :
Can't find DataRef for number 96 :
Mon Oct 13 07:34:40 2014 Connected to Boost server
Mon Oct 13 07:34:40 2014 Connected to Main server
PSX Version 10.0.1-alpha23
33 lexicon lines processed
Mon Oct 13 07:34:41 2014 Injector thread launched
Found dataref editor
Two questions:
- why isn't the main server on 127.0.0.1 like the boost?
- does XP crash if you run it with the XView win.xpl but don't connect PSX?
Mike
Hi Mike,
Firstly, thanks so so much for xview.
I reinstalled and the problem has gone. I think I got the old and new win.xpl files mixed up. My bad.
I was thinking to save some network congestion to run psx and xplane on the same pc. I am open to advice on the best networking configuration for xplane smoothness. Should I just point both to 10.1.1.101?
Regards
Greg
Hi Greg,
On the same machine use 127.0.0.1 :10747 and 127.0.0.1: 10749 for main and boost respectively. A 127.0.0.1 connection is routed straight through by the OS and doesn't touch the network adapter - at least that is my understanding. So it should be faster.
I wouldn't worry about network congestion. I haven't measured it, but from my back of fag packet calculation I doubt the boost server outputs more that 10Kb per second. Peanuts compared with the network speed.
X-Plane is the most power hungry part of the software. So for best performance put that on your fastest machine and PSX on the other.
Thank you for flying with XView ;)
Mike
Mike,
sorry that I still can't report back if the altitude reporting with X-IVAP is solved, had no ATC on my routes lately. :(
One thing I just noticed regarding the aircraft lights: Can't get the Strobe & Beacon lights to work, all others are fine. Do you have any idea what I'm doing wrong?
Performance wise I have no troubles at all - just wanted to give the other guys a heads-up.
Bernd
No progress on the ATC as it is out of my hands. I can't see it being resolved any time soon.
With regard to the lighting, it works ok for me. Check you are using HDR rendering in X-Plane and that the bulbs or whatever hasn't blown in PSX.
Mike
Quote from: mikeindevonNo progress on the ATC as it is out of my hands. I can't see it being resolved any time soon.
With regard to the lighting, it works ok for me. Check you are using HDR rendering in X-Plane and that the bulbs or whatever hasn't blown in PSX.
Mike
Mike,
I know that the IVAO stuff is nothing that you can do anything about. I just wanted to let you know that after changing the transponder to S mode only I had no controller online who could tell me whether it is now reporting the current alt or not.
HDR rendering is on, the datarefs report that strobe & beacon or on and I repaired everything in PSX.
Then I loaded an en-route situation in PSX, still no joy.
Will report back once I have my new PC up and running (maybe changing from AMD to nVidia will solve that).
Regards,
Bernd
XView 1.2 is now on the server. You access it at ftp://larkshayes.com.
Username : xview@larkshayes.com
Password : 747Pilot
The PSX Plane has been updated slightly. As an alternative to downloading the whole file, you can download 747_Wings.obj and overwrite your existing copy of that file. It lives in the objects sub-directory of PSX Plane, which is in the Aircraft directory of X-Plane.
The new XView version includes some interesting improvements:
- options to turn off the transfer of time, weather and comms from PSX to X-Plane
- weather improved with CBs included and better matching of PSX cloud layers
- clouds not re-drawn when other weather data changes
- full implementation of PSX weather regions
- improved handling of engine fans
- updated User Guide
- introduction of Relay output for boost server data.
This latter allows the connection of a single copy of PSX to multiple copies of X-Plane. In this way you can drive several cockpit windows from one copy of PSX. This avoids the distortion associated with a single wide display, even when spread over several monitors, and provides a silky smooth frame rate. This is definately the way to go if you want several windows animated.
Let me know of any problems.
Mike
Once again, thanks for your efforts, Mike! I like the new version very much.
Regarding the transponder/X-IVAP issue, sadly the controller at the scope still sees the altitude as 0. Really weird as the tracker is logging everything correctly, so my assumption is that the problem is somewhere between X-IVAP and the controller software (but I don't know the IVAO network architecture).
To be sure that it is not a problem of my local installation (or the dreaded PEBCAK) I have to ask: Does anyone else have the same problem when using PSX with X-View in X-Plane and flying online with X-IVAP?
Bernd
Mike,
great news !
I am curious about the weather zones implementation you mention.
AFAIK, X-plane 10 doesn't allow to set weather much far apart from the current aircraft position / active set of "Earth tiles", so, when you write "full implementation of PSX wetaher regions", do you mean that you have found a way to set the weather at those stations all at once, or that you transit between weather settings between each two stations in a more smooth / progressive way? Or, are you referring to the modeling of jetstream constellation ( even more complex... in X-Plane or FSX... )?
Also, and since X-Plane10 does not include "Cb" in it's cloud types, how are you injecting "Cbs"? It is possible to set cloud thickness ( and actually very limited because you can never set it less than 2000' or 3000', I do not exactly recall right now, unless it's "Ci"... Do you mean that when a report of Cb or TCu is available, you set cloud thickness high, with a non OVC layer, or together with it in case of embedded systems ?
Anyway, I will try to test this new version ASAP!
How about us guys running PSX on Macs. Can we expect a plugin to utilize X-Plane 10 scenery?
I have bought on of the new mac minis, which should arrive (from China) tomorrow. How long you have to wait for the mac version depends on how long it takes me to learn to program under OS X.
Mike
Thank a lot Mike!
I will try it as soon as I can !
Charles
Why not just running Windows 7 with Bootcamp ?
It works perfectly well !
Re the weather - I set X-Plane weather to the nearest zone set in PSX, or the planet weather if there are no zones within 320nm of the current position. I don't have access to X-Plane today so I cannot be specific, but there is a storm setting on the xp weather page. It produces quite large cloud puffs.
Mike
Thx Mike,
anyway, I'll find that myself in about 2hrs...
Do you have any feedback for when your XView is used with SkyMaxx Pro ? I don't know ifI am going to install it this turn, because I guess it might be problematic when I updarte XP10..., but I would like to see how the new Cb look ...
Also going to find out if the tool I am now using with FSX, borderless windows, as suggested by Gerd at another thread, will finally allow me to dimension the XP10 window the way I want. Until now the smalest I can get is arounf 2 /3 of the monitor height.
Hi, I am experiencing problems with x-view: it seems I can't complete a flight without the dreaded "couldn't complete an asynchronous load" x-plane error or something like that. Is that happenng to anyone else?
Tnx
Andrea
This happens when xp decides it is taking too long to load the scenery. I have seen this for example when xp starts first and begins to load scenery from its previous session, but then PSX starts up at a different location and the xp scenery load starts all over again.
I have never seen it during a flight. It is an xp issue as xview doesn 't load any scenery. Try running with less complex scenery or putting the scenery on a SSD. Don't use high values of time acceleration over complex scenery areas.
Mike
And... load XP after PSX is loaded and at the situ you want to sart from IS active...
Hello Mike,
after some time I finally could do some testing with different controllers.
Conclusion: weirdness
One controller saw my altitude, but only sometimes. A second one only saw my climb rate, no altitude.
Changes in the filed transponder didn't do anything (C or S).
Frustrated I tried searching the X-Ivap plugin for datarefs and found the following that I think are related to altitude:
sim/flightmodel/misc/h_ind
sim/cockpit/misc/barometer_setting
sim/flightmodel/position/elevation
sim/flightmodel/position/y_agl
The last two are only readable, so maybe X-Ivap uses the h_ind one as you guessed earlier.
If I can find another controller that is open to testing (the first session lasted an hour or so) I'll try to set h_ind.
Thanks to another very nice controller we just found out that X-Ivap uses the h_ind for altitude reporting.
Unfortunately some pressure calculations must also occur, just converting the meters from "elevation" to feet in "h_ind" is not enough. E.g.
40000 feet @ 1013hP shown on the PSX instruments
12192 meters in "elevation" from X-Plane, converted to ~40000 feet for "h_ind" by my LUA script
Controller sees FL365 on his screen.
I'm too sleepy atm to look for the right formula, just wanted to report some progress thanks to help & patience from a controller.
seems I found an error in my calculation.
Use ".", not ",". :D 8)
Testing in the next few days.
Unfortunately something is preventing Skytrack from tracking my flights correctly (please see here http://forum.flyuk.aero/topic/1005287-xplane-support/)
is there a solution to this?
Hi all, Ive just downloaded RealTraffic and enabled PSX injection in Xview. But no planes are appearing in Xplane.
Quote from: GodAtumHi all, Ive just downloaded RealTraffic and enabled PSX injection in Xview. But no planes are appearing in Xplane.
How many aircraft have you got XView to display? I have it set to 7.
I did manage to fly into some aircraft (and crash) using the YSSY approach situ with PSX.
Unfortunately now I am sitting on hold to runway 16R and do not see any aircraft landing despite PSX and RealTraffic operating correctly.
Quote from: OmniAtlasQuote from: GodAtumHi all, Ive just downloaded RealTraffic and enabled PSX injection in Xview. But no planes are appearing in Xplane.
How many aircraft have you got XView to display? I have it set to 7.
I did manage to fly into some aircraft (and crash) using the YSSY approach situ with PSX.
Unfortunately now I am sitting on hold to runway 16R and do not see any aircraft landing despite PSX and RealTraffic operating correctly.
Same. there is a new non-beta relase however so will test that. Fingers crossed!
Anyone have any issues with displaying tcas alerts from xp10 AI aircraft?
I have psx traffic set to external and the Xview plugin to use XP traffic (set at 7) but still no TCAS alerts.
Do you see the traffic in PSX?
Quote from: Hardy HeinlinDo you see the traffic in PSX?
Yes I do. Not sure if there is a similar issue with Xview as in VisualPSX.
So you see the traffic in PSX -- on the windshield and on the ND.
You expect a TCAS alert. Is there a reason for an alert? Are you on a collision course?
Quote from: Hardy HeinlinSo you see the traffic in PSX -- on the windshield and on the ND.
You expect a TCAS alert. Is there a reason for an alert? Are you on a collision course?
My apologies for the confusion. I do not see any TCAS notification (blips), or any traffic on the windshield or the ND in PSX. TFC is enabled on the EFIS, and the transponder is set to RA/TA.
I can see aircraft taking off and landing in XP10 (I am using Morten's AI -
http://forum.avsim.net/topic/437933-an-easy-guide-to-populating-x-plane-10-with-ai-aircraft-for-new-x-plane-users/ )
Regards,
Ben
Quote from: OmniAtlasI can see aircraft taking off and landing in XP10 (I am using Morten's AI - http://forum.avsim.net/topic/437933-an-easy-guide-to-populating-x-plane-10-with-ai-aircraft-for-new-x-plane-users/ )
Regards,
Ben
Sorry for the stupid question, but what happens if the traffic is a plane not included in Morten's AI packages (eg a dash)?
Hi GodAtrum,
You can only add aircraft which are included the package. Right now I populated XP with 747, 737, a320 and a380.
Quote from: OmniAtlasHi GodAtrum,
You can only add aircraft which are included the package. Right now I populated XP with 747, 737, a320 and a380.
So if realtraffic sends a Dash, it wont display in Xplane?
I am unsure about realtraffic, haven't tried yet. Worth experimenting on your end.
Are you able to see TCAS blips on the ND Chris?
I have been unable to get it to work with Xsquawkbox (vatsim), or default AI traffic. I will experiment with IVAO.
RealTraffic doesn't send the type to PSX. PSX does not know a type, apart from slots 1,3 and 5 (I think, details elsewhere by Hardy) being airbuses, as shown by the strobe double flash.
If you want to inject traffic type, your traffic plugins need to listen to UDP port 49002 and inject the traffic received there. RealTraffic broadcasts those packets when the broadcast checkbox is ticked. That would be better anyway, as that is not limited to 7.
Cheers
- Balt
Hi, without using Realtraffic and just setting a high-conflight loop in PSX, I can see the traffic on the ND fine. But nothing appears in Xplane, even though I have set xview to PSX traffic.
With realtraffic, the same happens.
Quote from: GodAtumHi, without using Realtraffic and just setting a high-conflight loop in PSX, I can see the traffic on the ND fine. But nothing appears in Xplane, even though I have set xview to PSX traffic.
With realtraffic, the same happens.
I'm still looking for a solution, and further experimenting (attempting to inject XP traffic into PSX); pls let me know if you come across one Chris (or anyone).
Thank you,
Ben
Hello,
sorry for me bad englisch.
http://666kb.com/i/cwgrnnmfsbts36it9.jpg
X-Plane 10.35
the Plugin is in the Airplane PSX Plane\\plugins\\XView\\64\\win.xpl
whats is wrong :'(
Hello,
what exactly do you consider to be wrong? Is the nose gear collapsed in X-Plane, and not collapsed in PSX?
Regards,
|_|ardy
the Foto is ready for Takeoff !!
the Gear from PSx is down :-)
in XPlane not
LG Ronny
EGLL cold an Dark
http://666kb.com/i/cwhkhct4f6lybn9p6.jpg
http://666kb.com/i/cwhkhnitv5rbs2316.jpg
Regards
Ronny
two Picture
With Xview Plugin (whitout PSX !!!)
http://666kb.com/i/cwhlf3xh0p1zjpu56.jpg
Without PSX Plugin (without PSX !!!)
http://666kb.com/i/cwhlfpqt50ca5hy3e.jpg
LG Ronny
Quote from: RonnyTWith Xview Plugin (whitout PSX !!!)
XView disables many things in X-Plane. These things are then replaced by input from PSX. Running XView wothout PSX is like a horse and cart without the horse - not much use.
There are exceptions, but generally speaking PSX provides data to XView only when the status of the plane alters. It is therefore possible to get a mismatch such as shown in your gear picture if the PSX status changes when the network connection is unavailable. Toggle the gear lever and this should synchronise the gear and lever positions.
Mike
Hi Mike
Do you have any news on XView for Mac?
I've got an XPlane installation on a Mac just waiting to be connected to PSX.. :D
I'd be more than willing to give it a (test) spin when the time comes.
Kind regards
Simon
The bulk of it is compiled on the Mac, but I need a little longer to convert the thread and comms software. Couple of months probably.
Mike
Thanks for the update! Let me know if I can be of any help with testing later on.
Simon
Quote from: mikeindevonQuote from: RonnyTWith Xview Plugin (whitout PSX !!!)
XView disables many things in X-Plane. These things are then replaced by input from PSX. Running XView wothout PSX is like a horse and cart without the horse - not much use.
There are exceptions, but generally speaking PSX provides data to XView only when the status of the plane alters. It is therefore possible to get a mismatch such as shown in your gear picture if the PSX status changes when the network connection is unavailable. Toggle the gear lever and this should synchronise the gear and lever positions.
Mike
thanks Mike,
i have forgot start the main Server :twisted: i have only startet the Boost Server.
Its work fine :P
Hello,
Just wanted to say thanks Mike for XView my flight simulation needs are now complete.
My copy of psx arrived this morning from transair.
Currently doing a test flight from LHR - IBZ.
Just need to get used to the feel of the psx flight dynamics apposed to FSX.
Cheers
--
Ross
Quote from: mikeindevonThe bulk of it is compiled on the Mac, but I need a little longer to convert the thread and comms software. Couple of months probably.
Hi Mike,
in your next update, would it be possible for XView to send this string to PSX after initial connection?
demand=Qs325It's just this one little line of code :-)
This command activates the ApServo (Qs325) output. And the checkbox on
Preferences > Basics is no longer required.
For reference:
http://aerowinx.com/forum/topic.php?id=2514Cheers,
|-|ardy
Hello,
I am doing some tests with PSX, XPX and Xview.
I am trying to put the visual of XPX on the upper part of my 27inch screen, and the PSX panel below.
I have XPX in window mode to be able to drag it up.
BUT the XPX window size is 2/3 of the screen. and I can't reduce it anymore. So if I put XPX and PSX on the same screen, I can't see the runway as it is hidden by PSX Panel.
I don't want to reduce the PSX panel size, as I want them to be as big as I can.
The ideal ratio would be XPX on 1/4 up and PSX on 3/4 down.
Does anyone know how to force reducing the XPX window Or changing the point of view ?
Stephane
Hello Stephane,
as I only have the German version of X-Plane 10 its a little bit difficult to describe.
In the upper menu bar you have "Einstellungen" which should be equivalent to "Settings" Here a drop down menu appears and you should look for "Darstellungsoptionen" which could be "Rendering Options" (between joystick and sound options).
In this window you can adjust a lot of things. In the lower section you can change the width of the view (angle) and if you want to look more down or up and much more. This should help to change the point of view. I'm not sure if you also can change the window size. I will check the next time.
Hope this helps
Peter
Hello Peter,
that's great, thanks for the tip !
I found it easily and it works great ! I have put -15° in the vertical offset and XPX in max windowed size and it matches perfectly the view.
Now I need to find where the nose of the aircraft is pointing at as I don't have the alignment hairs anymore :mrgreen:
Stephane
Quote from: Hardy HeinlinHi Mike,
in your next update, would it be possible for XView to send this string to PSX after initial connection?
demand=Qs325
It's just this one little line of code :-)
I will have to add 10% to the price !
That's still a very fair deal. Thank you! :-)
Just installed XView 1.2 (in xplane I choose psx 747 aircraft) and updated PSX 10.0.0.3 with model and pilot files. Xplane updated to max version with its autoupdate.
Plane is standing still on the runway with parking brake on and engines running idle. After some time front nose gear gets broken and aircraft lays nose down on the runway. I open PSX and click "fix everything" and after some more time it happens again.
What could be causing it? I can make a video or send some logs if you want.
(http://i.imgur.com/qreZzoN.png)
I guess this has something to do with a recent modification in PSX: I increased the sensitivity of the trigger for a nose gear collapse during nose gear landing. In other words: when the terrain slope angle is higher than the aircraft pitch while the nose gear is in contact with the ground, PSX interpretes this as a nose gear touchdown with the main gear being airborne.
This problem doesn't occur within PSX's own terrain slopes, but it apparantly may occur as an unwanted side effect within X-Planes own slopes which are more detailed.
I'll try to eliminate this problem in the next PSX update.
Regards,
|-|ardy
Hardy, thank you very much! Now I'm almost sure it started after update...
Anyone here managing to fly via XView in IVAO? I have a problem with the FL and speed transferring as in X-Plane it indicates that mph = 0 kias = 0 so it doesn't give any GS indication to the ATC as well as for some reason ATC sees me at FL030.
Hi Matchball,
XView has to completely disable the flight model in X-Plane so that PSX can drive the aircraft. Clearly X-Plane then doesn't bother to calculate other values such as ground speed. I will have a look at the SDK and see if there is a possiblity to inject suitable values into X-Plane.
Mike
Hi Mike,
I appreciate this alot. Let me know if I can help you in any way (I am very fond of flying in IVAO ;) ).
Regards,
Yes, you can help. There are a few questions to save me doing the research. How does X-Plane and IVAO interact: is there a plug-in for it? What precisely are the variables you need? If you know the datarefs for them that would be even better.
One problem that we may face is that some XP variables are read only.
Mike
Quote from: mikeindevonYes, you can help. There are a few questions to save me doing the research. How does X-Plane and IVAO interact: is there a plug-in for it? What precisely are the variables you need? If you know the datarefs for them that would be even better.
One problem that we may face is that some XP variables are read only.
Mike
The Software Developer is currently doing some ATC but once he has ended I will give him a call and ask the questions. Will report back during the day. :)
I have a problem that the X-Plane's aircraft hits the groun 10ft before the PSX and makes it very difficult for me to understand that the plane is still flaring without looking to the PFD. Is there a way to go round this? F.ex. disabling the gear extension so the plane would then "float" and never touch the ground?
So it seems that the problem is that X-Plane touches the ground at RA 0ft where as PSX around RA -6ft. Is there a way to solve this issue?
PSX's main gear touches the ground at ca. 0 RA.
PSX's main gear is completely (untilted) on the ground at ca. -2 to -4 RA.
PSX's nose gear is on the ground at ca. -6 to -8 RA, depending on gross weight and strut compression.
If you give me an ILS where this happens, I will have a look at it.
It happens on all runways (at least where I have flown. EGLL 09L, ENGM 01L, LTBA 23). I think the problem might be that the animation of the main gears is not done in the X-Plane plane and the gears don't "bend"?
Also I have tried to disable sloped runways on X-Plane and it did not help.
Re nose gear collapse problem:
http://aerowinx.com/forum/topic.php?id=2782
Quote from: mikeindevonYes, you can help. There are a few questions to save me doing the research. How does X-Plane and IVAO interact: is there a plug-in for it? What precisely are the variables you need? If you know the datarefs for them that would be even better.
One problem that we may face is that some XP variables are read only.
Mike
I have now found the person who knows about X-IvAp (the interface between X-Plane and IVAO, and have sent him mail. But already now I can tell that X-IvAp indeed is a plugin inside X-Plane. I will come back when he has answered :).
Hi Matchball,
Regarding the touchdown issue, have a look at the attached picture that was taken on the Basic 022 situation with the current version of XView..
(http://www.hoppie.nl/forum/var/touchdown.jpg)
When X-View detects touchdown it compresses the gear to the full up position with the wheels untilted. This hasn't happened yet in this flight so XView is still flying. The PSX RA is showing 2, which is more or less in line with Hardy's note above. Also note that rollout has begun, so PSX has landed, but XView not quite.
Can you be more specific about the issue you are having. What readings on the instrumentation are you using to say that PSX has touched down?
Note: The PSX Plane gear does compress on landing by about one wheel diameter from the flying position. This is done in one step: it is either uncompressed or fully compressed. I could do the compression in stages, the gear model allows for that, but as it all happens so fast I didn't think it was worth the trouble.
Mike
Hi Mike.
Quote from: mikeindevonAlso note that rollout has begun, so PSX has landed ...
PSX has not landed yet (not untilted yet). ROLLOUT engages at 5 ft RA in the air.
PSX has landed when you hear the click sound from the gear lock override solenoid (the speedbrake lever sound follows immediately).
Cheers,
|-|ardy
Quote from: Hardy HeinlinHi Mike.
Quote from: mikeindevonAlso note that rollout has begun, so PSX has landed ...
PSX has not landed yet (not untilted yet). ROLLOUT engages at 5 ft RA in the air.
PSX has landed when you hear the click sound from the gear lock override solenoid (the speedbrake lever sound follows immediately).
Cheers,
|-|ardy
That sound is the one where I have based the idea of PSX touching down. :-)
"Touch-down" is really a matter of definition.
In an ideal case, the first touch occurs on 8 main wheels, i.e. the rear wheel pairs on each tilted 4-pack.
For most avionic devices that have an air and a ground status, the ground status is set when all 16 main wheels are on the ground; that is, when all 4-packs are untilted. That status I would call "the queen has landed". (And the nose wheel pair is still in the air).
One thing also where this can be noticed is at takeoff. Because the PSX plane already indicates positive rate but in X-Plane the plane jumps up fast after couple seconds.
I noticed that too, it always looks like a tailstrike.
I've also noticed this 'jump up' in FSX on occasions.
A bit of background detail.
X-Plane and PSX have a slightly different terrain elevation models. In particular XP has sloping runways. XView feeds into PSX the scenery elevation every few frames, but because of damping in PSX, this elevation data does not immediately affect the elevation within PSX. When the plane is on the ground, this can lead to the plane's image in X-Plane ploughing into the ground especially on upward sloping runways. This doesn't look good.
Also, although PSX is fed the elevation, it knows nothing about the slope of the terrain, either along the line of the plane or perpendicular to it. This again can lead to problems with say the main wheels on the ground and the nosewheel below it.
The approach I took to avoid these problems was to set the plane's elevation to the XP ground elevation when I deemed the plane to have landed. That is I ignored the elevation reported by PSX. I also added the terrain's slope to the attitude (and roll) of the plane. In this way the plane is always position correctly when on the ground and follows the slope exactly, although there is some small damping to smooth out XP's abrupt changes in slope. In fact you can taxi the plane up the side of a mountain and the wheels will remain on the ground whatever the slope.
So in summary, XView uses the PSX elevation when flying and the XP scenery elevation when on or very near (< 0.5m) the ground. These slight jumps or early landings are a side effect of XView swapping between the two modes.
There is a setting within XView that specifies the distance between the base of the landing gear and the plane's centre of gravity. To change this needs a recompilation. If I alter it there is a risk that the plane will appear to plough into the ground. When I developed XView I chose a compromise to ensure that this didn't happen. The price we pay is some slight discontinuities.
I hope this clarifies the situation.
Mike
Thank you for your detailed explanation. Unfortunately it does look odd on a full size flightdeck so customers wont get a realsitc experience. From my expereince, the landing seem to be OK but I'm not a real 747 pilot so cannot comment. Thank you very much for your efforts and hopefully there might be a workaround in the future.
At that point during takeoff your customers should have a pitch attitude greater than 10° and should see more sky than land :-)
Has anyone been able to fly online using X-Plane? As I tried yesterday VATSIM and had the same problem as in IVAO. No GS data and also no FL data (altitude data is transferred though).
I believe that X-Plane itself should work ok via XSquawkbox. This latter software must take internals from X-Plane to provide GS and FL. My problem is that I am unable to set these internal variables via the SDK.
If the guys at IVAO could expose a set of datarefs for these variables, then I could easily write to them.
Mike
What I have found out is that for some reason FL data is not transfferred to the networks but altitude data is? I tried to use the data source to see what alt data does x-plane have but all those figures were frozen.
I am also quite certain that (at least IVAO) plugin takes it data for GS, FL and V/S from the same source as the X-Plane's VC's PFD. As the figures match every single flight.
Please let me know if I can help. I am still trying to find a person who knows about X-IvAp but for now it seems like the person who made the plugin has left the developing department.
Ps. I just wrote again to the software department. I will let you know if I find any info.
Hi Mike, thankyou for your excellent product, I use it on a daily basis.
QuoteSo in summary, XView uses the PSX elevation when flying and the XP scenery elevation when on or very near (< 0.5m) the ground. These slight jumps or early landings are a side effect of XView swapping between the two modes.
Would it be possible to blend the transition between modes?
I am sure you have thought about it, and it may be very complex, I have no idea on that part. It would however, make a great addition to not have the jumping.
Regards
Greg
Hi, Mike and Matchball,
I have found this topic in the X-plane.org forum :
http://forums.x-plane.org/index.php?showtopic=52138
Maybe it could help to calculate the groundspeed in XPX to be used by XView and X-Ivap ?
and there are some VARs in section "sim/flightmodel/position/" from this link :
http://www.xsquawkbox.net/xpsdk/docs/DataRefs.html
I am not an expert in XPX datarefs. I hope it could help. I really wish we could fly correctly on IVAO with PSX and XView.
Stephane
Hi Mike
I've read with interest you post on PSX + X-plane for scenery. Unfortunately Im running PSX on an iMac and I note it's windows based. Are their any plans to make an IOS version?
Thanks in advance
Steve Beckett
You will find an OS X version at:
ftp://larkshayes.com/Release 1.2/mac.xpl
Access to this site is explained in a previous post.
I would be interested to know if that works for you. It was compiled using the OS X c++ library, which doesn't seem to be available on some user systems. If it doesn't work I will produce a build with the library linked in if I can work out how to get XCode to do that.
Mike
... specifically it needs "libc++"
Mike,
some months ago I posted about not having the strobe and beacon lights working on your model.
Yesterday I started to debug crash issues with X-Plane and installed a second copy without any addons besides xView. I found at least one error in my sceneries and, purely by accident, found out the following:
If I have a PSX Plane loaded (with the xView plugin) and I change the aircraft to PSX Plane (causing X-Plane to reload the aircraft) the strobes and beacons start working.
Weird, huh?
Now I just have to remember to load the plane twice before starting the APU. :D
Cheers,
Bernd
Glad it seems to work now. Perhaps now that PSX Plane is properly reloaded it will remember it. Mike
Hello,
any news regarding the Ground Speed and Flight Data injection from PSX in XPX and X-IVAP ?
Any contact from IVAO developpers ?
I really like XPX as a scenery generator for PSX but actually cannot do any IVAO's tour as GS and altitude reads Zero and legs cannot be validated.
Stephane
Mike,
after my backup disk is no longer readable I tried to download XView from your FTP-Server.
I get the username/password prompt, but nothing afterwards.
Could you verify if it is a problem on my end or if the server isn't working?
Thanks,
Bernd
Hi,
I am really interested in XView, but the ftp provided at the first page does not accept the credential. Did they change or did the soft location change ?
Thanks
I also want to install Xview for Mac but the login does not work.
The FTP login details from the first page are working fine here. Do note that they're case sensitive.
Just to confirm: in the e-mail address there are no capital letters and in the password only the "P" in 747Pilot?
Hello,
what about using this variable :
groundspeed float 660+ no meters/sec The ground speed of the aircraft
in sim/flightmodel/position/
to get access to the groundspeed of the aircraft in XPX and in XView ?
Still no solution to be able to fly on IVAO with PSX+XView ? (Ground Speed and Flight Level read zero when flying online)...!!!
If you have access to X-Plane.org forums, here is an old topic talking about Groudspeed in XPX :
http://forums.x-plane.org/index.php?showtopic=52138 (http://forums.x-plane.org/index.php?showtopic=52138)
If you don't have access, some quotes :
QuoteXPLMDataRef DR_LocalVX = XPLMFindDataRef("sim/flightmodel/position/local_vx");
XPLMDataRef DR_LocalVY = XPLMFindDataRef("sim/flightmodel/position/local_vy");
XPLMDataRef DR_LocalVZ = XPLMFindDataRef("sim/flightmodel/position/local_vz");
XPLMDataRef DR_GroundSpeed = XPLMFindDataRef("sim/flightmodel/position/groundspeed");
float VX = XPLMGetDataf(DR_LocalVX);
float VY = XPLMGetDataf(DR_LocalVY);
float VZ = XPLMGetDataf(DR_LocalVZ);
float GroundSpeedCalculated = sqrt((VX * VX) + (VY * VY) + (VZ * VZ));
float GroundSpeedDR = XPLMGetDataf(DR_GroundSpeed);
Hi, why is VZ included in groundspeed?
Hi, I have no idea. You should better ask directly in the topic... But I am sure a good programmer (don't look at me !) will be able to retrieve the groundspeed from PSX an inject it in XPX and X-Ivap.. 8)
I'm using XP10 in my sim and I've decided just to add one cheapish additional computer to the network running barebones P3D to pass variables to Vatsim. With the dirt cheap prices of computers these days, seems like a fairly inexpensive workaround for now.
A quick question,
anybody know if Xview work even with the Steam version of X-Plane ?
Thanks !
Hi
I would like to know too if Xview works with Xplane STEAM EDITION (before buying it).
Thank you
Hi all,
First post here,
i'm still awaiting my CD to arrive in the post however i'm trying to download this addon in preperation for it arriving.
When I type the login details as mentioned in page 1, I get a 530 Login authentication failed?
Any Ideas?
Thanks
There's no reason for XView not to work with the DVD, Web or Steam versions of X-Plane 10.
Only suggestion I make is to drop the plugin only within the specific 744 folder that comes with the plugin, instead of inside the generic plugins folder.
Quote from: Daz85UK on Tue, 12 Apr 2016 12:38
Hi all,
First post here,
i'm still awaiting my CD to arrive in the post however i'm trying to download this addon in preperation for it arriving.
When I type the login details as mentioned in page 1, I get a 530 Login authentication failed?
Any Ideas?
Thanks
I am still getting a 530 login authentication failed when entering the username and password. Is there anywhere else I can download it from?
I'm getting a "Server not found" message ...
I put the latest copy I have in my dropbox.
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/69177488/XView.zip
See if that works.
Jon
Thanks Jon! That worked.
The Readme says it should include a file called PSX Plane, which isnt in the zip file, do I need to get this from somewhere else?
Sorry. Here it is.
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/69177488/PSX%20Plane.zip
Jon
Thankyou
Howdy,
Is anyone else having problems getting to the ftp server? I can't connect on multiple computers trying different ftp programs and browsers. If anyone has a current copy of xview & PSXplane they could put up for download that would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks
AT
Hi,
Send me an email at hjboe(AT)msn.com and I'll send you a download link. It's Mike's program, not mine and I don't feel comfortable leaving public links up for any length of time.
Thanks,
Jon
Have just tried XView with Xsquawkbox, however when I change frequncies in PSX it does not change to selected frequency on XSquawkbox.
Is there a way to fix this or does Xview not send the COMs frequency to Xplane/Xsquawkbox?
Thanks
a quick question...
In the last release of XView, when I open the XView.cfg file, I see the following parameter that should be edited :
PSX_PATH =""
This should point to the storage location of the PSX PLANE folder OR the PSX program ? (Aerowinx folder)
Thanks
Strange, I believe I have the latest version of XView, and I can't find any entry with PSX_PATH in xview.cfg ?
I think I was able to download it today from the ftp link posted by mike...
I tried a couple of times to connect to that ftp link and between 530 errors, I was able to download it...
Here is the link where you can download the XView.zip file I downloaded today...check the Xview.cfg file.
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/8xr5nlinfnerwqh/AACHVMDJrFZaKDm25jPnM2qCa?dl=0
EDIT : This file is the one I downloaded from jb747 link some 7 post above....NOT from Mike.
Hi,
I also could not find any entry with PSX_PATH. I'm also not sure if this makes sense, as the PSX address is identified with the IPs and Port numbers...
This is what I got from the original file:
HEADER = "XView Configuration File Sat Oct 18 19:20:18 2014"
SETTINGS_PATH = ""
BOOST_ADDRESS = "127.0.0.1 : 10749" ; IP address
MAIN_ADDRESS = "127.0.0.1 : 10747" ; IP address
RELAY_ADDRESS = "127.0.0.1 : 10740" ; IP address
RELAY_BOOST_DATA = FALSE ; Set to true if XView relays boost data
SMOOTH_TRAJECTORY = FALSE ; Extrapolate between PSX updates (default: FALSE)
DO_ANIMATIONS = TRUE ; Animate external parts, eg gear, etc(default: TRUE)
DO_LIGHTS = TRUE ; Animate lights (default: TRUE)
DO_WEATHER = TRUE ; Set true if PSX sets X-Plane weather
DO_COMMS = TRUE ; Set true if PSX sets X-Plane comms
DO_TIME = TRUE ; Set true if PSX sets X-Plane time
SIDE_VIEWS = FALSE ; Set TRUE to allow PSX to set X-Plane view angle
USE_BOOST_SERVER = TRUE ; Set to TRUE to use Boost server - the normal setting
PSX_TRAFFIC = 3 ; Set to the number of traffic planes you want driven by PSX (max 7)
USE_PSX_TRAFFIC = FALSE ; Set true if PSX drives the traffic aircraft
USE_XP_TRAFFIC = FALSE ; Set true if XP drives the traffic aircraft
INJECT_ELEVATION = TRUE ; Set to true to send scenery elevation to Main server
Peter
Unfortunately the version linked above is a very early one :-(
To give a clue of how early it is, this is the XView.cfg in it:
HEADER = "XView Configuration File Fri Dec 28 00:22:06 2012"
SETTINGS_PATH = "D:\X-Plane"
BOOST_ADDRESS = "127.0.0.1 : 10749" ; IP address
MAIN_ADDRESS = "127.0.0.1 : 10747" ; IP address
PSX_PATH = "D:\PSX\"
X-PLANE_PATH = "D:\X-Plane"
DEBUG_PATH = "D:\X-Plane"
MAIN_OUTPUT_PATH = "D:\X-Plane"
BOOST_OUTPUT_PATH = "D:\X-Plane"
and there's that PSX_PATH we can't find in the most recent versions... unfortunately no longer available :-/
I lost mine in a full disk cleanup ... If someone could make available her/his "win.xpl" 64 bit and Xview.cfg file, with the latest versions on XView that allowed for choosing if weather and time should or should not be injected, etc... that would really be great!
Of course, with the upcoming new versions of X-Plane 10 one never knows if it'll keep working...
The config in the latest copy I have is:
HEADER = "XView Configuration File Fri Jul 18 14:20:10 2014"
SETTINGS_PATH = ""
BOOST_ADDRESS = "127.0.0.1 : 10749" ; IP address
MAIN_ADDRESS = "127.0.0.1 : 10747" ; IP address
SMOOTH_TRAJECTORY = FALSE ; Extrapolate between PSX updates (default: FALSE)
DO_ANIMATIONS = TRUE ; Animate external view, eg gear, etc(default: TRUE)
DO_LIGHTS = TRUE ; Animate lights (default: TRUE)
INJECT_ELEVATION = TRUE ; Set to true to send scenery elevation to Main server
PSX_TRAFFIC = 1 ; Set to the number of traffic planes you want driven by PSX (max 7)
SIDE_VIEWS = TRUE ; Set TRUE to allow PSX to set X-Plane view angle
This is from the download I did way back when (July, 2014) Mike's server.
If anyone wants to look at this one send me an email at the earler link above.
Jon
Thx Jon,
unfortunately I didn't save the latest version I had downloaded from there, which was even more recent because it included at least to additional parameters to control the injection of date and weather from PSX into X-plane 10.
If any of you have that version of XView, please make it available ....
Thx
Hi Jose, I found an installed version in my system with the following configurations:
HEADER = "XView Configuration File Sun Sep 13 20:25:02 2015"
SETTINGS_PATH = ""
BOOST_ADDRESS = "10.7.4.7 : 10749" ; IP address
MAIN_ADDRESS = "10.7.4.7 : 10747" ; IP address
RELAY_ADDRESS = "127.0.0.1 : 10740" ; IP address
RELAY_BOOST_DATA = FALSE ; Set to true if XView relays boost data
SMOOTH_TRAJECTORY = FALSE ; Extrapolate between PSX updates (default: FALSE)
DO_ANIMATIONS = TRUE ; Animate external parts, eg gear, etc(default: TRUE)
DO_LIGHTS = TRUE ; Animate lights (default: TRUE)
DO_WEATHER = TRUE ; Set true if PSX sets X-Plane weather
DO_COMMS = TRUE ; Set true if PSX sets X-Plane comms
DO_TIME = TRUE ; Set true if PSX sets X-Plane time
SIDE_VIEWS = FALSE ; Set TRUE to allow PSX to set X-Plane view angle
USE_BOOST_SERVER = TRUE ; Set to TRUE to use Boost server - the normal setting
PSX_TRAFFIC = 3 ; Set to the number of traffic planes you want driven by PSX (max 7)
USE_PSX_TRAFFIC = FALSE ; Set true if PSX drives the traffic aircraft
USE_XP_TRAFFIC = FALSE ; Set true if XP drives the traffic aircraft
INJECT_ELEVATION = TRUE ; Set to true to send scenery elevation to Main server
If this works for you, let me know so I can make it available via Dropbox.
cheers
-E
It surely does -E, please make the link available.
THX!!!!
If possible I would like too this file.
email me the link at my address :
aris at ticino dot com.
Thanks !
Hey guys, I have uploaded it here:
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/21613445/XView.zip
I had to recreate the original zip file (which I no longer have, sadly) with the files on my X-Plane folder.
Only the 64bit version and no documentation.
Hope this helps.
cheers
-E
Thx a LOT evaamo!
Quote from: evaamo on Sat, 7 May 2016 16:58
Hey guys, I have uploaded it here:
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/21613445/XView.zip
I had to recreate the original zip file (which I no longer have, sadly) with the files on my X-Plane folder.
Only the 64bit version and no documentation.
Hope this helps.
cheers
-E
Thanks a LOT !!!
Best regards
Back to the smooth X-Plane 10 visuals ride thx to you evaamo!
Glad I could help Jose!
Enjoy!!!
cheers
-E
Does anyone know if anything has happened to Mike?
Seems like his server account has expired....
Regards,
AlexB
Alex,
apparently the FTP server is still up, and the account is active, only the passwd was changed.
The server appears to be some community server in some "village" in the UK ( ? )
Hi Mikeindevon,
Just finally got round to updating from version 10.0.0 etc. to .8 and came across your X-plane graphics infuser. I read the ftp server login details as username : xview@larkshayes.com
pw: 747Pilot... but when I tried this it bounces. I note it asks whether or not I wish to login as a 'guest' or registered user. I tried using the above credentials to no avail. Am I doing something wrong?
Many thanks,
AG
I believe Mike is no longer supporting XView, and I fear that upcoming X-Plane 10 patches can make it incompatible because they are changing datarefs...
Well, time will tell - anyway, I am no longer using X-Plane 10 because it's a huge install on my 250 GB disk, just for the purpose of using it for the PSX visuals...
Thank you Jcomm for explaining. Shame but understood. I don't have MS Flight sim etc. just X-Plane 10. What do you suggest, the google earth route?
AG
Andrew,
I think you can keep using X-Plane 10 for the visuals. Actually and thanks to "evaamo" you can still get one of the latest build of XView from here:
http://aerowinx.com/board/index.php?action=post;quote=36848;topic=1615.280;last_msg=37182
Beware that after unzipping it to the root folder of X-plane 10 you still have to edit xview.cfg to adapt it to your network settings, and root dir, and I also suggest moving the xview plugin inside the b747 and not make it a default load plugin because it will affect your use of X-plane 10 for other purposes.
Just so I don't make a basic error here... when you refer to network settings in the Xview.cfg file:
1. Does this mean I require a separate pc/mac (am using using mac) because both software programs cannot be run simultaneously on 1 machine / 1 screen?
2. Is there some documentation with the required changes in the script that you refer to please?
My setup is 1 iMac with both PSX and X-Plane 10 installed. Does the Xview program infuse the graphics into the PSX application or simply run a parallel or synched screen.
Andrew
1) Your choice here. I run both on the same Windows 10 machine ( old i5 2500 @ 3,2GHz ). What I meant was that the file xview.cfg includes some entries ( when you download it from the link evaamo gave us ) that refer to his network and we have to adapt it to our network, or simply use "127.0.0.1" if we run everything on the same PC;
2) On the thread where I got the link to XView from there are some configuration examples, but when you install XView you will have a XView menu under "plugins", allowing you to set your choices. Unfortunately I no longer have the manual, but basically you can choose to have PSX inject weather and traffic as well as time, and aircraft lighting to the X-plane "dumb" 744 that comes with XView.
If you simply drop the contents of the ZIP file into your X-plane main folder everytime you start X-Plane it will also start the XView plugin. This is not good if you do not just use X-plane for the visuals of PSX. Best thing to do is to enter the "resources\plugins" folder and move the "xview" folder into the "plugins" folder of the Xview 747. This way XView will only load when you select that aircraft.
Since I only have one monitor I also created a customized PSX layout profile where one of the views occupies only the lower half of the screen, and I place there the PFD, ND and upper EICAS only, well enlarged. Then I use a windows app to run X-Plane 10 in windowed mode without window border in the upper half of the screen, and select only the CTRL-W ( I guess this is the one ) full screen front view. That app allows me to create a custom setup whenever I start X-Plane 10 when the app has been loaded first. I configured it so that the X-plane window is 1920 X 530, intead of the full 1920 X 1080 ( in my case ).
Hi Guys,
I have been looking at the posts and also tried to contact Mike but he is no longer replying to emails and hte village he worked for are unsure of his new contact details.
However I do have the complete V1.2 package (including the PSX plane and docos).
I have placed it on my dropbox and it can be downloaded using https://db.tt/QcLaWcBL
Enjoy.
AlexB
Thanks a LOT Alex!
thx
Thank you Jcomm and AlexB. Much appreciated. V helpful.
AG
Well, time will tell - anyway, I am no longer using X-Plane 10 because it's a huge install on my 250 GB disk, just for the purpose of using it for the PSX visuals...
Hi Jose,
If not mistaken Xplane does not install anything in the program files map, or any other map, and can , just as PSX ,run,or be moved to a different disk or deleted whithout problems.
External HD have large storage space these days, so it would be easy to run it , just plug in the usb disk and of you go, maybe a bit slower then SSD, but usable.
Ivo
I am using Pilot2ATC but it seems like it is not getting any airspeed or altitude. Is this still a problem with XView?
Quote from: Ivo de Colfmaker on Wed, 8 Jun 2016 14:26
... Xplane does not install anything in the program files map, or any other map, and can , just as PSX ,run,or be moved to a different disk or deleted whithout problems...
Ivo
This is correct.
Thanks
Carl
Tonight I finished fetching the last few tiles to complete the whole Earth install - X-plane 10.45.
I am runnig it using a PSX custom Layout where one of the screens contains just a selection of the panel occupying the lower half of the screen, with X-plane's window set by "Windowed Borderless Gamming" to 1920 x 560.
Using default weather rendering only, with data injected through XView from PSX. No cars on roads and autogen and trees set to Nill.
Getting an incredibly smooth ride with this settings, X-Plane showing 30 fps, PSX between 70 and 71 most of the time :-)
The most perfect combination so far !
Only thing I would probably add, if space on disk wsn't the limit, would be some cool ortophoto scenery... The autogen, the trees and those nifty cars on roads I couldn't care less about...
Hi Jose,
Any chance of a screenshot ?
Ivo
For sure - will take one and post here asap!
There some videos:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JWDC9H_jzzw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DP4mJVLHHGQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1DPKc2IzAkQ
That's it !
Still away from my sim PC today :-/, but I couldn't get a better perspective, I guess.
It pretty much shows how smooth PSX and XpX run together.
Yep....especially the first video...the landing on Sydney.....to me this video represent the best combination possible in regard to flight sims today : the "in depth" and fidelity of PSX and the incredible scenery rendering of XPlane !
I am still figuring out which projector options suit best my room...but plan to do it soon !!
Is using XPlane a dead-end now? I just tried to get XView and encountered the server error, then read the whole thread.
A shame XView development appears to be abruptly ended. I wish devs of such software would publish the source code if they're going to quit, so others can pick it up.
After recently trying XPlane, I prefer its visuals to FSX, especially at altitude, and would like to use it.
The file in my link still works. I did try to download Alex's version but I think he removed it.
Sadly, it seems X-Plane is indeed a dead end. For now.
cheers
-E
I was using X-Plane mostly for the smoothness and 3d runways, but my latest experience with P3D v3.3.5 and PSX.NET is so positive that I reverted to use of P3D for the visuals.
I get the smoothest ride ever, and running HiFiTechInc AS16 and ASCA with P3D for the weather rendering, and also in the future aloft winds injection into Aerowinx PSX.
Then, since Austin and Ben are working hard on 10.50 and changing datarefs here & there, one never knows if XView will continue to work...
Hi Guys,
Sorry, don't know what happened to my link but here is a new one to the same zip file...
https://db.tt/ky6PZHxf
Enjoy!
Alex B 8)
Hi guys,
I'm trying to download the Mac versione of XView but I can't connect to the ftp site.
It seems that users and password aren't valid.
Any chance to have the latest Mac Version or the new user/password?
Thank you very much
The web server for XView in the UK is no longer available. Mike has left the organisation that hosted his files.
I only had the windows version so have put that on dropbox for forum members....
I was not aware of a MAC version...
Regards,
AlexB
Thank you very much for your reply.
I'll await for a Mac user to see if he/she can share his/her own version
Regards
Here is mine latest version of Xview:
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/huiqcr78jlw6gx4/AABc5hZHsnqOzSWLJtJS_atsa?dl=0
I think that mac.xpl is file you are looking for :-)
best regards
vito
Quote from: vito on Fri, 2 Sep 2016 20:24
Here is mine latest version of Xview:
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/huiqcr78jlw6gx4/AABc5hZHsnqOzSWLJtJS_atsa?dl=0
I think that mac.xpl is file you are looking for :-)
best regards
vito
:-O Thank you very much, you made my day! :)
I'll check :)
It works!
Thanks again :))
Quote from: mikeindevon on Tue, 29 Jul 2014 14:17
Hi Andrew,
It works ok. Remember to put the following in your browser address:
ftp://larkshayes.com
You will then be asked for the username and password:
username : xview@larkshayes.com
pw: 747Pilot
Let me know how you get on.
Mike
Hi Mike,
New to PSX and I would like to give this one a try too. Is it still working for the at this adress ??
Cheers,
Olav
If you are running Windows you can get the files here:
https://db.tt/ky6PZHxf
Cheers,
Alex B
Thanks Alex 👍🏻😉
Hi guys,
Has anyone got any tips on how they run this? How do you get PSX to input the weather into X-plane?
Also does anyone have the manual they could share? I can't seem to find it.
Cheers,
Felix
Here's a link to V1.01 0f the manual. I'm not sure how current is is.
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/69177488/XView%20User%20Guide%20v1.01.pdf
Cheers,
Jon
Many thanks for the link.
It appears xsquawkbox isn't totally compatible at this point = shame as I much prefer it to P3D.
Cheers,
Felix
Can any of you confirm if then landing lights are working properly using X-View's PSX-Plane? I'm using the version included by Alex but as soon as I click the lights switch, the landing lights flicker for a few seconds and then go off.
Thanks!
cheers
-E
What version of X-Plane do you use? With 10.50 I have the same problems. The landing lights are only visible within the short period during on and off transition. With 10.45 everything works ok.
Hope this helps
Peter
Hi Peter, I'm using 10.50 indeed. I wonder what's changed that is affecting the lights... will try to troubleshoot this in a few weeks and see if I can come up with a fix.
Cheers
-E
Hi,
I've found the same issue, however, if you click the landing lights on from inside the PSX VC the landing lights will illuminate. Hope this helps!
Felix
Hello All
I have two of questions about XView(downloaded Alexs version)
I tested with XPlane 10.51 64bit.
Also I bought and installed to World Traffic 2 for AI.
Well... However, That is only shown as ND for TCAS, only 1 traffic.
I changed to Number of traffic aircraft 1 to 7(max) in the Xview.cfg, because that is not change in the Plugins menu for them. and I did tick to the box 'Draw XP traffic? menu box'
but Thats still as shown only 1 traffic symbol in the ND(TCAS A/N/B modes same there is only on 1 traffic)
Also It is makes to the cutting out for screen but FPS is about 25 above.
I am using with I5 2500K(overclcoked at 4.6GHZ) 16GB RAM, GTX970 and 250GB SSD for only the XPlane 10.
However, I am using with 50inch UHD TV for Main Monitor.
How's everyone getting works to smooth with XView?
Thanks
Best Regards,
Younghoon
Quote from: evaamo on Sat, 15 Oct 2016 15:14
Can any of you confirm if then landing lights are working properly using X-View's PSX-Plane? I'm using the version included by Alex but as soon as I click the lights switch, the landing lights flicker for a few seconds and then go off.
Thanks!
cheers
-E
Hello
That is same problem to the XPlane 10.51 version.
so, I takes to XPlane B744 VC Landing lights switch, Instead of PSX Landing lights switch as said Felix.
Thanks
Best Regards,
Younghoon
I am still working on the view solution here. I truly believe XP is the best scene-gen out there.
Hi,
I have tried XView with X-Plane 11 and it works, although I haven't made a detailed test! The imagery in this new version of X-Plane is spectacular.
It appears that there are some issues:
- landing lights not working properly in 10.5 (I will have a look and will see what can be done.)
- download copy on larkshayes.com corrupted (I will stick the official version on Dropbox)
- altitude not passed to VATSIM etc (this is an insoluable problem with xsquawkbox that only Ben Supnik can fix)
There is a Mac version, which works here fine, but some have found problems. This is probably due to the fact that they are missing an OSX library. If anybody has found a solution, please let me know.
Is there anything else?
Mike
Thank you very much Mike to take the time to try to fix this small but essential add-on.
Very appreciated
Hi Mike,
thank you very much for your efforts to fix these issues.
Quote from: mikeindevon on Sat, 3 Dec 2016 18:25
Is there anything else?
There was a topic some months ago, concerning the x-plane external view becomes jumpy over the time.
http://aerowinx.com/board/index.php?topic=3461.msg35428#msg35428
And there is another point (maybe caused by the same problem), which is a little bit difficult to describe.
On my system the external view "realigns" from time to time. That means the bank angle slightly jumps (1 ° or so) and the pitch angle jumps more noticable (2-3 ° or even more) nomally to a nose down position, which gives the visual information that the aircaft is descending, while PSX still shows the same attitude riding smoothly along the airway.
It feels as if the position and attitude data from PSX are not always 100% transmitted and from time to time, the system realises, that there is something wrong which causes this bigger alignement.
Peter
Just a thought...
Pilot Edge is an online ATC system that was built around XPlane (it supports FSX/P3D as well) and has no issues with the altitude/speed/heading info being passed to the controllers. It's a pay service, not a freebee and currently only supports SoCal as a coverage area but someone might want to give it a try with PSX/XP and PE and see if it connects and works properly. You can get a 2-week free trial period so it costs nothing to verify the functionality.
If it works, and I suspect it will, it should provide some info for the XSquackbox developer to hopefully get it augmented for the VATSIM/IVAO systems.
The link to PE is below:
http://www.pilotedge.net/
Cheers,
Jon
Ok, I have seen his problem with the landing lights: it exists in 10.5 and 11.0 versions of X-Plane. I haven't changed the XView code or PSX Plane so it is something Laminar Research has done. Can anybody tell me which was the latest version of X-Plane that the landing lights worked correctly. Perhaps I can then track down what LR have done.
Mike
Hi Mike,
last version here with working landing lights is 10.45
Peter
Thanks for that Peter - so we know who the culprit is :). I am on the case, but I have upgraded the c++ compiler to MS Visual Studio 2015 from 2013 and none of it works at the moment ! I will try and get it done in the next few days - the impossible we do at once, miracles take a little longer.
Mike
Quote from: mikeindevon on Wed, 7 Dec 2016 17:12
Thanks for that Peter - so we know who the culprit is :). I am on the case, but I have upgraded the c++ compiler to MS Visual Studio 2015 from 2013 and none of it works at the moment ! I will try and get it done in the next few days - the impossible we do at once, miracles take a little longer.
Mike
Hi Mike,
Obviously a different scenario (I'm coding against simconnect, not X-Plane) but I've found that I had to install VS2013 then VS2015, then target specific C++ projects within VS2015 to use the VS2013 C++ compiler.
Thanks Mark. I have fixed the problem so it now runs with VS 2015. I can now investigate why these landing lights are not working.
I have now found the problem. PSX sets a value for landing lights between 0 and 9, the larger the number the brighter the light. When this value changes, XView generates a stream of intermediate values for XP over 1 second so the light appears to fade (or brighten) gradually, rather than flash full on or off.
XP provides a "dataref" called "sim/cockpit2/switches/landing_light_switch which accepts values between 0.0 and 1.0. XView reduces the PSX number by a factor of 10 and plugs this number into the dataref. Actually it is slightly more complicated because of the gradual transition from on to off as explained above.
This all worked fine up until 10.5. Since then the XP dataref changes any number you enter less than 1.0 into 0. Hence the lights flash and then go out. I have raised a bug report with LR.
I can produce a work around such that any light value from PSX grater than 0 sends a value of 1 to XP. This is a simple mod that I will publish in the next few days.
For those who are interested, there is a tool for XP called data ref editor, or DRE. You can load this as a plugin just like XView and set the value for this dataref yourself. This would save going into the XP cockpit view.
I now have a version that works properly with the landing lights. Is anybody prepared to host the file (162KB) until I set up my old website? I will need an email address to send it to.
Mike
Hi Mike,
I have a dropbox account that hosts your old version for windows... I can put it up for you.
email aboyd(at)boydsnest(dot)dyndns(dot)org
Cheers,
Super. Thanks. I have emailed it.
It turns out that you can put values greater than 1 into the dataref, contrary to what the documentation says. I have set the maximum to 5. It will go higher and brighter, so let me know whether you think the brightness is about right as I can easily increase it or tone it down a bit.
Mike
Hi All,
Mike's new xpl file can be downloaded via: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/32544587/win.xpl
I am sure Mike can advise how to use it. :)
Best wishes,
Alex B
Hello all,
Could someone please send me the link for the XView files, the xview@larkshayes.com from the original post does not seem to work for me!!
Many thanks...
Check out this thread. You will find a dropbox link I posted earlier....
Cheers,
Alex B
Quote from: mikeindevon on Mon, 12 Dec 2016 02:49
I now have a version that works properly with the landing lights. Is anybody prepared to host the file (162KB) until I set up my old website? I will need an email address to send it to.
Mike
I was using XView with the previous version of win.xpl and had no problems other than the landing light issue. I downloaded the newest win.xpl and after starting PSX and Xplane 11(beta) I don't get a connection between the 2 programs. When I click on Plugins on the Xplane header it doesn't show Xview as a plugin. When I check PSX network, boost it says listening for a client. I went back to the previous win.xpl and everything works fine.
John
Hi John,
I will check it out.
Mike
If you would like to email me, then I will send you the file again. Perhaps I uploaded the wrong one.
Ignore the last msg. I have checked the file on Alex's dropbox: it is identical to the one I have here.
It works for me in 10.51 and I haven't seen any problems. In 11 there have been some strange behaviours, for example starting with the correct scenery view, but then fading to black. Try it in 11 with a different plane to see if that helps.
Don't forget that the file has to go in (Your XP11 dir)/Resources/Plugins/XView/64
Quote from: mikeindevon on Tue, 13 Dec 2016 15:08
Ignore the last msg. I have checked the file on Alex's dropbox: it is identical to the one I have here.
It works for me in 10.51 and I haven't seen any problems. In 11 there have been some strange behaviours, for example starting with the correct scenery view, but then fading to black. Try it in 11 with a different plane to see if that helps.
Don't forget that the file has to go in (Your XP11 dir)/Resources/Plugins/XView/64
I did send you an email so you can disregard it, I can confirm I do have the file in the correct location, I will try another aircraft and see what happens.
Thanks, John
This new version of XView was compiled on MS Visual Studio 2015. You need to have the corresponding redistributable package installed for it to work. Get it here:
https://www(dot)microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=53840
Everything works just fine here (Windows 10, XPlane 11) ! Thanks Mike !
best regards
vito
Hi Mike,
probably I have the same issue as John. With the new win.xpl the landing lights work as expected, but there is no position update any more. Switching back to the old win.xpl everything works fine again, except the landing lights.
xview window shows connection
vc_redist.x64.exe installed (german language)
Win 7 64 (german version)
X-Plane 10.51
Peter
Hi Peter,
As suggested by Mike after I installed Microsoft Visual C++ 2015 PSX now links to Xplane.
However, while the landing lights now work I am not seeing the strobes or beacon?
John
Hi John,
all lights work here. Strobes, beacons, wing lights, logo lights and off course the landing lights. But no movement.
The windows control panel shows MS Visual C++ 2015 installed
xview shows boost server also connected....
Peter
I found that checking 'Extrapolation active' caused my Xplane to stop moving when connected to PSX, can you try unchecking it?
John
Peter,
Which 747 model are you using?
Cheers,
AlexB
Hi John and Peter,
The new release of XView is identical to the old with the exception of a new value for the scaling factor for landing lights that is applied to PSX output before injecting into XP. I therefore think it is unlikely that these various problems are caused by XView, especially as it is ok with XP10.51
I suggest you try several times, starting PSX first. It also helps to have XP load in the same scenery area as PSX so that it doesn't have to change sceneries part way through the start-up process.
Please keep me posted.
Mike
Thanks for updating the program and your help today. My only issue is the beacon and strobe lights, I will give it a try again tomorrow.
John
Hi John,
extrapolation is on. I will check it with off tonight.
Alex,
I use the model that came with the PSX_Plane.zip. Within X-Plane I did not change anything, except copying the new win.xpl into the .../Resources/Plugins/XView/64 folder. So, going back to the old win.xpl everything works as before, except the landing lights.
Mike,
my normal procedure is: first start PSX, then X-Plane.
When using the old win.xpl, the position of X-Plane is exactly the same as coming from PSX. After changing to new win.xpl the position of X-Plane is on the nearest runway, or at an another position, near the last position and it takes a very long time for X-Plane to find the PSX position. With the old win.xpl the positions match immediately.
But I will try several times tonight.
Thanks for your input. :)
Peter
Peter,
I use the PSX model as well and replaced the old win.xpl with Mike's new one. Everything seems to work OK.
I wonder if there may be a permission problem with your X-Plane... Is it installed on your desktop?
If so the system may not allow the new win.xpl to work correctly.
My X-plane directory is on a second ssd in my machine and I have full control as it is not a "personal" or "system" directory...
Cheers,
Alex B
Hi John,
extrapolation off was the solution. Now it works. Thank you. :)
Alex,
the same here. X-Plane directory on second ssd and all permssions allowed. Thanks for your help. :)
Mike,
Thank you very much for this update. Much appreciated :) Looking forward to X-Plane 11 release.
Regarding the the landing lights: they seem a little bit brighter to me and more sharp edged as before. But perhaps this is also a topic for the RTH scripts....
Peter
Peter,
Your comment about the lights being brighter is probably true. Previously you fed a number into XP in the range 0.0 to 1.0, the larger the number the brighter the light.
The latest versions of XP will accept any number !! The bigger the number, the brighter it gets. Any fractional numbers are rounded down to just the integer part. Hence when I pumped in 0.99 for the brightness it got reduced to 0 and hence no light.
The updated version of XView puts in 5.0 for the landing lights. If people think this is too bright, I can easily reduce it.
I have raised a bug with LR as the current implementation is not in line with the documentation. I don't know whether they will alter the code or the documentation.
Mike
I have now hacked together a website for XView. You can download win.xpl from it. I will put some other stuff up shortly, like the manual and some screen shots.
www(dot)larkshayes(dot)com
Hi Mike,
thanks for the information and your efforts. Do I understand this correct, that I by myself can fed a number into XPlane?
If yes, where can I do this? Or is this only for programmers? If so, I would suggest to reduce the value to 2 or 3. This schould be far more realistic.
Thanks again
Peter
EDIT: will a reduction of this value also reduce the size of the light cone, or only the brightness?
Hello Mike
Thanks a lot to you for the this great updated.
I checked to the all lights and that is working as well. ;D
However, I still have a problem for the TCAS with XView(Newest of Xview version)
This is also previous, I posted to http://aerowinx.com/board/index.php?topic=1615.320
I tested with XPlane 10.51 64bit and tested with World Traffic 2 for AI.
Well... However, That is only shown as ND for TCAS, only 1 traffic at KSEA.
Please see this link : http://blog.naver.com/hanuljikimi/220887756781 and It is my a blog, I just uploaded here for these problem of captures screen.
I changed to Number of traffic aircraft 1 to 7(max) in the Xview.cfg, because that is not change in the Plugins menu for them. and I did tick to the box 'Draw XP traffic? menu box'
but Thats still as shown only 1 traffic symbol in the ND(TCAS A/N modes same there is only on 1 traffic)
Also thats wrong, because as shown -17(1700ft below of me), however I am not on the -1700ft of that.
at least, If that only 1 of traffic is corrected as TCAS ND, +17(1700ft above of me) is corrected.
Mike, If you need to the my that Xview log files, I'll send to you via email.
Anybody have to this Injections problem from XPlane 10 AI traffics to PSX ND?
Thanks
Best Regards,
Younghoon
Hi Peter,
I have put up a new version on the website. The lights are now maxed at 2.25. What do you think?
I'm afraid this is a mod that only I can make. This new version 3a is the same as 3 in all other respects.
Mike
Hi Younghoon,
I will have a look at these issues in a day or two.
Mike
Does XView work with XP11 ?
Quote from: jcomm on Sat, 17 Dec 2016 18:40
Does XView work with XP11 ?
I am using the beta of Xplane 11 with PSX and it seems to run quite well.
Go to the site wwwdotlarkshayesdotcom and click on PSX downloads
Download the file, Xview 64 bit Version 3a
the file will be named win0.xpl
rename it to win.xpl
place the file in the folder
X-Plane 11, Resources, plugins, Xview, 64, you will need to create the folders Xview and 64
start PSX and under Network start the Boost setting
start Xplane, if all goes well under the plugin menu you should see Xview
John
Sorry about the file being called win0.xpl rather than win.xpl. The website doesn't seem to like having two files with the same name. Rename it back to win.xpl
Hi Mike,
I could not find any difference in the brightness on my system. After changing win.xpl several times and making screenshots on runways of different airports X-Plane began crashing shortly after start of the program.
I do not know whats going on here and I think I have to reinstall it and then check again.
So, give me one or two days.
The TCAS problem of Younghoon could be the same here. I found that the value of PSX_TRAFFIC always resets to 1, regardless of my input in the xview.txt. But presently I cannot say more about it.
Peter
Quote from: Peter Lang on Sun, 18 Dec 2016 00:11
Hi Mike,
I could not find any difference in the brightness on my system. After changing win.xpl several times and making screenshots on runways of different airports X-Plane began crashing shortly after start of the program.
I do not know whats going on here and I think I have to reinstall it and then check again.
So, give me one or two days.
The TCAS problem of Younghoon could be the same here. I found that the value of PSX_TRAFFIC always resets to 1, regardless of my input in the xview.txt. But presently I cannot say more about it.
Peter
Hello Peter
Yes, That is not changes of XView options in the XPlane 10.51
However, It is will be changes to XView.cfg file.
But there are not working for the max to 7 traffics and As you said that is only 1 traffic as shown on ND.
Also There is wrong as shown to -17 Instead of +17 in the TCAS.
Today, I uploaded to my blog for my XPlane 10.51 with Xview night screens for you and I also using with the RTH.
link : http://blog.naver.com/hanuljikimi/220888782844
It is loaded to PSX situ #4 Cleared for Takeoff at TNCC.
Is there a difference between you and me for the landing lights bright as same?
Thanks
Best Regards,
Younghoon
Quote from: mikeindevon on Sat, 17 Dec 2016 16:47
Hi Younghoon,
I will have a look at these issues in a day or two.
Mike
Hello Mike
Thanks a lot to you for taking care of that. :D
I'd really like to make a donation to you via paypal for your cheer up! but small donation and sorry about that. :-[
Because, This is such a great thing that your free time to develop.
Thanks again
Best Regards,
Younghoon
Quote from: JohnH on Sat, 17 Dec 2016 22:27
Quote from: jcomm on Sat, 17 Dec 2016 18:40
Does XView work with XP11 ?
I am using the beta of Xplane 11 with PSX and it seems to run quite well.
Go to the site wwwdotlarkshayesdotcom and click on PSX downloads
Download the file, Xview 64 bit Version 3a
the file will be named win0.xpl
rename it to win.xpl
place the file in the folder
X-Plane 11, Resources, plugins, Xview, 64, you will need to create the folders Xview and 64
start PSX and under Network start the Boost setting
start Xplane, if all goes well under the plugin menu you should see Xview
John
Thx John!
I may be missing something here...I just tried the following situation:
04 Approach 007-Real World weather -San Francisco.situ
XPlane 11 and PSX are not in sync in regard of the position....while PSX land correctly in the runway, Xplane keep landing in the water, right of 28R...
Tried a couple of times..
Anybody noticed this ?
Another thing I noticed is that the when I start the boost server on PSX, in Xplane I keep hearing a repeating noise like when you move the speed break...keep doing all the time..
04 Approach 007 - Real-world weather - San Francisco.situ
Swiso, this is an offset LDA approach, not a normal ILS; LDAs cannot be autolanded. Which navdata version and PSX version are you using?
If your ILS is not tuned to "IFNP", you are not using the original situ from the DVD but a modified situ. In the real world and in PSX, it's impossible to autoland with the "IFNP" station.
|-|ardy
Hello Hardy,
I have PSX 10.1.0a and Navata 1603.
Since I have only one display, I divided it in two....upper half Xplane visual, lower half PSX.
I let PSX play out that situation.....without any input from me....no crash there...
I might try that again oy on PSX to see what happen.
Hi Swiso,
if you don't see the PSX scenery you cannot tell where it has landed.
PSX will never crash if the landing is smooth. So if it hasn't crashed, you cannot conclude it has landed on a runway.
An LDA approach is an offset approach. Offset approaches are no reasonable methods to test scenery offsets :-)
Did you see the offset on the ND map? Is the ND large enough? Or did you use the ND APP display?
|-|ardy
:-[
What a shame...obviously you're right Hardy !
A nice soft "landing" on the side of 28R....
They both are right in sync.
Anybody else got that annoying noise while using XPlane 11 ?
EDIT: I think is the landing gear that do the noise...I loaded situ 03 Approach 21...checked in PSX and the LG was down....on XPlane 11 was not (changed to external view and saw no landing gear down).
Plane landed without problem (XPlane)....then closed PSX, and saw the 744 lowering the gear.
Must be some command that is not working properly...
Hello
Mike, Have you found of that TCAS Problem with XView?
I want to know about the progress.
Also I am just waiting for here. :)
Thanks
Best Regards,
Younghoon
The landing light bug in X-Plane has been fixed in 11 beta 3 so the original win.xpl will work again. I don't know whether they have corrected the fault in 10.51 as well.
Mike
Hi hunijjang,
I can't quite understand from your posts exactly what your problem is. It seems that you have X-Plane traffic and you are not seeing more than one in the PSX ND.
I don't want to do any work on problems with XP 11. This is still an early beta and as we saw with the landing lights, the issue was with XP rather than XView.
I have looked at the ND display using XP10.51. I set up three AI driven aircraft and I see them on the PSX ND. So I don't think that there is a problem my end. They do however move out of view quite quickly.
You need to set in XView settings window the "number of traffic aircraft" and "Draw XP traffic".
Do remember that any planes on the ground do not show up on the ND. Hardy did explain the rules for this some time back.
I read the positions of the other planes from sim/multiplayer/position/plane[n]_lat etc where n is 1 to 7. If some other package is generating the traffic, they may not be filling these variables properly. You could always check using the DRE (Data Ref Editor)
Mike
Quote from: mikeindevon on Wed, 28 Dec 2016 17:03
Hi hunijjang,
I can't quite understand from your posts exactly what your problem is. It seems that you have X-Plane traffic and you are not seeing more than one in the PSX ND.
I don't want to do any work on problems with XP 11. This is still an early beta and as we saw with the landing lights, the issue was with XP rather than XView.
I have looked at the ND display using XP10.51. I set up three AI driven aircraft and I see them on the PSX ND. So I don't think that there is a problem my end. They do however move out of view quite quickly.
You need to set in XView settings window the "number of traffic aircraft" and "Draw XP traffic".
Do remember that any planes on the ground do not show up on the ND. Hardy did explain the rules for this some time back.
I read the positions of the other planes from sim/multiplayer/position/plane[n]_lat etc where n is 1 to 7. If some other package is generating the traffic, they may not be filling these variables properly. You could always check using the DRE (Data Ref Editor)
Mike
Hi
What part do not you understand? Please let me know!
last time, 17 Dec you was reply to me this.
'Hi Younghoon,
I will have a look at these issues in a day or two.
Mike'
then, I just waiting of your the answer and you just didn't to me for that the answer after day or two or a week.
It was no problem for that my waiting.
Also I didn't mention at all for the XPlane 11 with XView.
so, I don't know why telling you such a thing of them and I don't have a XPlane 11 yet.
I have a XPlane 10.51 64bit for the XPlane of my version.
Also, I've already done that setup as you noticed about this.
Please check this link : http://blog.naver.com/hanuljikimi/220887756781
However, that is only works to just 1 of traffic as shown in the TCAS of the PSX.
Have you got test to XPlane 10.51 of default traffics?
Best Regards,
Younghoon
Hi hunijjang,
Thank you for your post. As I mentioned above, I ran a test here using the AI aircraft from X-Plane on 10.51 and they all showed up on the PSX ND. As far as I am concerned XView is working correctly.
One final thought - you may need to set up the additional aircraft in the XP Aircradt menu.
Mike
It has been pointed out that traffic generated by the X-Plane add-on "World Traffic" does not show up on the PSX ND when using XView. I have discussed this problem with the author and it is a result of World Traffic having to use its own datarefs for traffic positions. See p58 of thier manual.
To get this to work would require a specific World Traffic extension to XView, which I am in principle prepared to do, but only if there is sufficient interest in this particular package. Let me know.
Mike
A "world traffic" extension would be awesome!
Andrea
Quote from: mikeindevon on Fri, 30 Dec 2016 14:54
It has been pointed out that traffic generated by the X-Plane add-on "World Traffic" does not show up on the PSX ND when using XView. I have discussed this problem with the author and it is a result of World Traffic having to use its own datarefs for traffic positions. See p58 of thier manual.
To get this to work would require a specific World Traffic extension to XView, which I am in principle prepared to do, but only if there is sufficient interest in this particular package. Let me know.
Mike
Hi Mike
Thanks for your the answers and That's really thoughtful of you.
The XView By default, if it's all works to correctly as you said, I won't have to spend your time in this problem for the WT.
Also, I don't thought a lot of PSX users, use to with PSX with the WT.
If want to this someone, I thought better X-Life(http://jardesign.org/x-life/www/) by JARDesign.
I don't have to Installation of this, but there are on freeware version.
But Also the X-Life Deluxe version(http://store.x-plane.org/X-Life-Deluxe_p_472.html) is payware $19.99.
The World Traffic 2.0(http://store.x-plane.org/World-Traffic-20_p_226.html) is $29.95 so, It is a bit expensive more than X-Life Deluxe version.
I wish you a very Happy New Year! :)
Thanks
Best Regards,
Younghoon
Having spoken to the X-Life guys, I think their traffic program should work with XView as is. They use the same datarefs as me. I haven't tried it personally. Mike
Hi Mike,
Thank you for your great Xview !
Actualy it is working well with X-plane 11 beta3.
I'm testing online flying on IVAO network :
working well:
- light and animations
- altitude reporting for other players
- set comm frequencies and transponder code
- tcas
not working well :
- activate the transponder from stby to active mode
(when PSX is driving the "comm" via Xview the transponder doesn't work. You can set the code but you cannot activate the transponder)
- speed reporting for other players
(other players saw me with a speed of 2 kts)
I can confirm that I see a speed of 0 kts on xplane data output.
It would be great if you can investigate about that ?
Thank you
Bastien
Hi Kenny,
I will have a look. What software do you use to interface with IVAO?
I seem to remember some limitation with the transponder that I couldn't get round when I wrote XView - I will have another look. With regard to the speed, I will see if there is a dataref to put in the ground speed.
Mike
Hi Mike,
Thank's for your answer.
I use the official IVAO client for Xplane "X-IvAp" (last version 0.34).
The most important issue is about the speed.
The other point about transponder activation is less important as we can still use it directly in X-IvAp by disabling PSX set Comm option in Xview.
For information X-IvAp client transponder has only two states : "Standby" and "Transmit" (in mode C)
Let me know if I can help you much more for troubleshooting.
Thank you
Bastien.
Hi Bastien,
The problem with the speed is that the groundspeed dataref in X-Plane cannot be written to. You can see this in the list of datarefs in the plugins directory of your installation. The file is DataRefs.txt. The "n" is the problem. I have just raised an issue with LR but I think they are unlikely to do anything about it.
Perhaps the client you use can be written to directly by XView. Can you find out if it exposes any datarefs? This might also solve the transponder problem.
Mike
Hi Mike,
I've done some quick search about dataref :
From Ivao some perhaps old informations :
https://www.ivao.aero/softdev/x-ivap/sdk.htm
There is a link with mail to contact the devs ...
From Xsquawkbox :
http://www.xsquawkbox.net/xpsdk/docs/DataRefs.html
I can see informations for transponder mode (data is writable)
http://www.xsquawkbox.net/xpsdk/mediawiki/Sim/cockpit/radios/transponder_mode
I've a question about "grounspeed", if the data is readonly, I assume it should be internaly computed, so could we put "indicated_airspeed" or similar data to try if xplane compute a grounspeed ?
Best regards
Bastien
Quote from: mikeindevon on Sun, 1 Jan 2017 18:31
Having spoken to the X-Life guys, I think their traffic program should work with XView as is. They use the same datarefs as me. I haven't tried it personally. Mike
Hello Mike
I bought to the X-Life Deluxe version and Have to tried with this for the XView.
However, That is not shown as TCAS ND for any traffics.
I checked to the XPlane 10.51 of Default Traffics and They are shown as TCAS ND.
But As you noticed about this, too quickly then losted and seems to be Not to smooth working as well.
last, I settings to max 13 of traffic to the XPlane 10.51 of Default Traffics.
Also there are some difference for shown the TCAS ND, the Max valve to 13 and 30 for the Default Traffics.
Thanks
P.S : I don't have to much times, Its just tried a little bit times.
Best Regards,
Younghoon Choi
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Hi all,
I'm also flying on Pilotedge, and with the new expansion area using the PSX+XView combo on PE would be great!
Hi,
I am happy to develop some extensions to XView, but I am not happy to release the c++ source. There seems to be three areas of extension that people want:
1. Transfer of groundspeed to online controllers. This is just not possible using the current X-Plane SDK as plugins cannot write to the groundspeed variable, only read it. I have asked LR to change this but I doubt they will as it has the potential to wreck their flight model. The only way to get round this in my view is for the online interface plugins to get the groundspeed directly from XView rather than X-Plane. I believe that this could be achieved with inter-plugin communication (although I have never tried this) if I were to expose an XView dataref. Clearly this requires somebody to modify the online interface plugins.
2. Transponder not functioning correctly. This was a limitation of the stock LR 747 model that I used. I don't know if the XP11 version has a better implementation of the transponder. Any info on this would help.
3. Use of the XP11 747 as the basis for PSX Plane. I would be interested to know what advantage this would have for the users and what enhancements would be interesting. Implementing a new PSX Plane involves little if any change to the XView code: the implementation is almost entirely done by modifications to the .obj files in the stock aircraft subdirectory. If you like to compare the stock and PSX Plane .obj files you will see where the differences are. Working with these files is not easy and took a considerable proportion of the XView develpment time. It is also necessary to have the 3D modelling package AC3D.
I see the way forward as this:
* users to compile a list of requirements for the extensions
* somebody take on the mods to the online interface package to talk directly to XView (this may not be possible in all cases eg VATSIM because of their NDA)
* somebody take on the mods to the obj files in the XP11 version of the 747 using my datarefs and additional ones as necessary.
Let me know. Perhaps we should start a separate thread for this.
Mike
Regarding 1.) While the GS dataref itself is not writable, it's value is determined by the velocity vector IIRC. So when you write the rlevant data to
sim/flightmodel/position/local_vx
sim/flightmodel/position/local_vy (might not be needed, as it's the vertical component)
sim/flightmodel/position/local_vz
the GS should be calculated correctly.
http://www.xsquawkbox.net/xpsdk/mediawiki/MovingThePlane#Changing_the_Aircraft.27s_Velocity
Regarding 2.) I wouldn't mind if I had to set the transponder mode and Ident through X-Plane's built in commands (see below, but you probably know those :-) ), instead of using PSX functions for the purpose of flying online.
sim/transponder/transponder_ident
sim/transponder/transponder_off
sim/transponder/transponder_standby
sim/transponder/transponder_on
sim/transponder/transponder_alt
So if it would be possible to make X-Plane think the PSX representation is just a plane with a generic Transponder in Plane-Maker, those commands should work.
Thanks for the tip regarding point 1, which I can implement easily. At present I just put in local_x, local_y, local_z, theta, phi and psi. I will do it in the next few days and we can see if it works. Regarding the transponder, I will have a look at the details again - I can't comment at the moment.
Mike
Hi Mike!
Amazing news, and congrats for the pending update! Will the new XView remain compatible with X-Plane 10.51? I admit that, for now, I'm sticking with it.. as it's already quite a nice and smooth scenery generator on Mac!
I can't see why not. It's a very small mod.
Just to note: local_vx, vy and vz need to be in meters per second, and also X-Plane's GS variable/dataref is in meters per second, not in knots... I stumbled upon this when I wrote a lua script to show some flight data when hiding the instrument panel.
Hi All,
Thank you for your investigations !
The news sounds good !
I'll do more test for transponder between PXS and X-plane, because I got it working for one time .... but I don't remember how ....
Mike, is Xview plugin activable/desactivable from xplane plugin admin menu ?
For me it seems to be not
Thank's
Bastien
Quote from: mgeiss on Fri, 13 Jan 2017 20:42
Just to note: local_vx, vy and vz need to be in meters per second, and also X-Plane's GS variable/dataref is in meters per second, not in knots... I stumbled upon this when I wrote a lua script to show some flight data when hiding the instrument panel.
I have implemented a version that inputs the local_vx etc and DRE shows these to be exactly what I would expect and in agreement with the PSX groundspeed. For example, flying true north at 261knots gives me a value of 134m/s for the appropriate velocity component and the other two approx zero. So far so good. However the groundspeed is set initially but is never updated and the value is different each time you run the sim. On the run quoted above it was 103821816.0 ! X-Plane can't cope with this number and the view goes dark. If I input fixed velocities of much lower values, the groundspeed value is lower, remains unchanged, and the view doesn't go black.
From all this it would appear that inputting the local velocities does not work. Bear in mind that I have to disable the flight model to let PSX drive the X-Plane position.
This is a shame. Any other suggestions?
Mike
That's a bummer. I'm araid I'm out of ideas at the moment.
I'm far from an expert in this regard, I just did some lua scripts for X-Plane which work with "normal" addon planes.
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Yep, that's the main problem. Theoretically, I guess you could activate the flight model for a very short instance every second (or so), let the groundspeed update, and quickly deactivate it again. But that might of course lead to other kinds of problems and you would probably need to stop this on the ground.
But we might have at least a solution for Pilotedge. I wrote about the problem in their forum and asked if passing the missing variables via custom datarefs to their client could be an option. This is what they said:
QuoteKeith has expressed a willingness to have the PE plugin look for a custom dataref such as "/custom/xview/groundspeed" say and read that. If the X-View developer wants to create something like that, that would be ideal.
So when there is some spare time you could get in touch with them ( info at pilotedge.net ) and talk about how this could be done. But there's no hurry!
So, just wondering if there is a mirror for the XView plugin, as it seems as though www(dot)larkshayes(dot)com is currently not responding to connection requests.
"This site can't be reached - www.larkshayes.com refused to connect."
I just tried the site www.larkshayes.com from my Imac using Safari and had no problems or error?
John
Quote from: Eldrarak82 on Thu, 9 Feb 2017 17:58
So, just wondering if there is a mirror for the XView plugin, as it seems as though www(dot)larkshayes(dot)com is currently not responding to connection requests.
"This site can't be reached - www.larkshayes.com refused to connect."
Hi everybody.
I tried Xview with wplane10. It works perfectly for me except when I load a gate position from PSX:
If i load a cold and dark situation at a gate position, the plane is not aligned correctly in XP10
If i load a runway position from psx, all is aligned perrfectly...
When i load the gate position from PSX, the heading does not move. If I select a "take-off" position then the Heading change and is correct. Perhaps a psx configuration pb?
Sorry for my english... :-)
Hi,
this has nothing to do with XView. The gate database in PSX contains no gate heading data; so if you click on a gate button in PSX, the heading will not change.
Official gate databases are actually intended for use as a present position reference during IRS alignment. Using the gate database for other purposes too is just a special feature of PSX.
If you want to store a certain position at a gate with a specific heading, you need to save a situation file.
Regards,
|-|ardy
FWIW I have had this issue and entering the correct heading in the PSX POSITION page seems to fix it satisfactorily for me. Useful when flying from a different airport than the one you last landed at.
HTH
C
Thx for your quick answers :)
I have also found that P3D aligns correctly with PSX gate info, but XP10 is way off especially at YSSY...
I move the aircraft in XP11 and then enter the info as a long and lat to save in my situ so I can load one for P3D and a different one for XP10...
If you use the runway as the start point both are OK
But when flying into an airport it is not a problem as the gate info is not as important...
Cheers,
Please note that the gate lat/lon data has a resolution for use as a present position entry in the FMC for IRS alignment. So it's not that accurate to put the aircraft exactly on the spot in the scenery. Some gates in the scenery are even so so close to each other that the low resolution in the database rounds their lat/lon numbers up to the same final value.
Cheers,
|-|ardy
Hey, isn't it handy that the current XSquawkBox maintainer is on this forum... >_> (Ben hasn't maintained XSB in quite some time).
Quote from: mikeindevon on Thu, 12 Jan 2017 16:00
I am happy to develop some extensions to XView, but I am not happy to release the c++ source.
Well, that leaves me very unhappy with you until you start releasing binaries for all the platforms - XPlane is not all Windows - if it can run XPlane, it should be able to run the XView plugin - heck, all the existing XPlane platforms happily run PSX.
Quote from: mikeindevon on Thu, 12 Jan 2017 16:00
1. Transfer of groundspeed to online controllers. This is just not possible using the current X-Plane SDK as plugins cannot write to the groundspeed variable, only read it. I have asked LR to change this but I doubt they will as it has the potential to wreck their flight model. The only way to get round this in my view is for the online interface plugins to get the groundspeed directly from XView rather than X-Plane. I believe that this could be achieved with inter-plugin communication (although I have never tried this) if I were to expose an XView dataref. Clearly this requires somebody to modify the online interface plugins.
Expose this through custom datarefs and I can start to think about supporting it that way when present and active (make sure you have a dataref or other method for testing if the XView data-source is active). I've been advising VATSIM users to not use XSB+Xview together because of this problem - I already have the VATSIM controllers breathing down my neck for TAS/GS errors created by XPlane model time dilation without XView users adding to this problem.
Unsure when I can get the XSB-side of the fixes in, but if the support is there in XView, there's little to stop me from fixing the other end when my current headaches with XSB (all related to VS2015 and libcurl) are fixed.
Can't comment on the Transponder problems - wasn't aware there was any. If you use the published datarefs as per more recent XPlane, it should just work with XSB.
Hi all,
I went through the whole post but cannot find a link to the nview manual.
I would be grateful for any help.
Jos
Quote from: jos d. on Wed, 8 Mar 2017 19:02
Hi all,
I went through the whole post but cannot find a link to the nview manual.
I would be grateful for any help.
Jos
http://www.larkshayes.com/index.php/psx-documents (http://www.larkshayes.com/index.php/psx-documents)
Here's a link to the XView User Guide 11.01. I don't know if it's the latest or not.
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/69177488/XView%20User%20Guide%20v1.01.pdf
Cheers,
Jon
Thank you, Jon.
Hi Mike,
thanks a lot for XView!!
On my system, XView had worked greatly with XP 10.
With XP 11 Public Beta 15, XView still works. But the XView dialog window is frozen once I open it (I cannot change the settings, I cannot move/close the dialog window).
LR stated in their Public Beta 14 notes: "Dataref and plugin bugs fixed–plugins that don't work need to file bugs ASAP!" (http://www.x-plane.com/kb/x-plane-11-00-release-notes/).
Do you already know this issue?
Do we need to report the issue to LR?
Kind regards
Jens
Quote from: jensi76psx on Mon, 13 Mar 2017 10:14
With XP 11 Public Beta 15, XView still works. But the XView dialog window is frozen once I open it (I cannot change the settings, I cannot move/close the dialog window).
If you're using multihead, this is an X-Plane 11 bug - XSquawkBox also uses the XPLM Widgets and is similarly affected.
On my system, X-Plane runs (only) on the secondary screen.
Quote from: jensi76psx on Tue, 14 Mar 2017 07:42
On my system, X-Plane runs (only) on the secondary screen.
It's all part of the same bug - in 11, plugins are getting window system native coordinates as far as I can tell, and not the per-window ones, so on my test system, where the 'primary' display is one right of the windows origin, if I click on the areas on the origin display corresponding to the dialogues, they respond.
We can't fix this at all - it needs either a new SDK, or some additional datarefs so we can translate the coordinates relative to the XPlane 'primary' display. I have done some superficial poking around, but it doesn't seem like the details are exposed just yet.
Do you know if LR is aware of this issue?
Quote from: jensi76psx on Tue, 14 Mar 2017 20:35
Do you know if LR is aware of this issue?
Yes - they explicitly mention it in the devblog re: pb14.
XP11 is a beta afterall - there are problems, and you should be reading the devblog to see what's changing, what's broken, and what's recently been fixed.
Ok, thank you, I will check the devblog web page at the next opportunity.
I have another question to the community:
Sometimes, my PSX Plane induces a brown out (I guess, the dataref rel_brown_out was greater than 0).
This happened in the air at high altitude.
What is the reason for that?
Thanks a lot for explaining that to me.
Kind regards
Jens
I have also a question. I can only download one single file from the website.
There is no "package", no custom b747 available.
What am I doing wrong?
I tried registering using the provided codes, but they are no longer valid.
Jos
Quote from: kuroneko on Wed, 8 Mar 2017 12:35
Expose this through custom datarefs and I can start to think about supporting it that way when present and active (make sure you have a dataref or other method for testing if the XView data-source is active). I've been advising VATSIM users to not use XSB+Xview together because of this problem - I already have the VATSIM controllers breathing down my neck for TAS/GS errors created by XPlane model time dilation without XView users adding to this problem.
Unsure when I can get the XSB-side of the fixes in, but if the support is there in XView, there's little to stop me from fixing the other end when my current headaches with XSB (all related to VS2015 and libcurl) are fixed.
I sorted out the problems recently and I have managed to get XSquawkBox 1.3.2 out. If you expose the GS via custom dataref, and provide a reliable test for me to confirm that XView is active, I should be able to fix this problem pretty quickly.
Quote from: kuroneko on Tue, 14 Mar 2017 03:30
Quote from: jensi76psx on Mon, 13 Mar 2017 10:14
With XP 11 Public Beta 15, XView still works. But the XView dialog window is frozen once I open it (I cannot change the settings, I cannot move/close the dialog window).
If you're using multihead, this is an X-Plane 11 bug - XSquawkBox also uses the XPLM Widgets and is similarly affected.
XPlane 11pb16 just came out which claims it fixes the plugin widget bug.
Yes, the widget bug seems to be fixed now.
I would like to provide you with an update regarding the "brown out" topic:
It's NOT the brown out (sim/operation/failures/rel_brown_out is equal to 0; if I set sim/operation/failures/rel_brown_out to 6, the REAL brown out gets active (which looks quite different)).
I will continue with my analysis.
Kind regards
Jens
Quote from: jensi76psx on Fri, 24 Mar 2017 10:24
I would like to provide you with an update regarding the "brown out" topic:
I'm personally willing to bet that it's actually the hypoxia blackout coming into effect.
Hypoxia blackout is now a default always-on in XP11, previously it could be disabled.
Here is a picture of my issue:
http://www.hoppie.nl/forum/var/brown_smoke_UL.png
Is the larkshayes site down? can't seem to connect...
Update: Got into main page and able to obtain a single xpl file, but can't access via ftp to get zip with Xp aircraft, confit file, etc. I get the credentials box and enter those provided in this topic, but they don't seem to work.
Any help appreciated.
Thanks!
Scott
Hello together
I am totally desperated:
What may cause this issue with X-Plane 11, PSX plane and XView: http://www.hoppie.nl/forum/var/brown_smoke_UL.png ?
Thanks a lot for your tips.
Regards
Jens
Well, I located a copy of the zip I must have saved many months ago, and installed into X-Plane 11. Happy to say that it is working perfectly!
Thank you for this wonderful add-on!
Scott
Hello,
What version of XView and PSX plane are people using for XP11? Is there something native for XP11 or is it all based on XP10.
I'm using the new win(0).xpl with XP11 and the default B747. It's working apart from a few strange animations.
F
Does anyone know how to animate the default B747 for XP11? I could give it a go with a few pointers.
F
Hello Felix,
I have some issues if I use the current version of XView and PSX plane (or Laminar's 747) in XP11.
My plan is to implement a scenery generator plugin that will be compatible with XP11 and Laminar's 747.
Regards
Jens
Jens you absolute Hero!
F
Hi,
I am trying XPlane 11 as a replacement for FSX visuals.
I have an old copy of XView (1.2) that is not working.
I visited ftp://larkshayes.com without success, no connection I also tried www.larkshayes.com.
Alex B had posted a dropbox link (Sept 2016) to the software which looks like it has aged out.
I wonder if someone would be so kind to point me in the right direction to the latest XView software, or temporarily host it at Dropbox.
Many thanks in advance.
Graham.
Try Mikes site again. I got right in and downloaded V3.0
Many thanks for your response jb747.
Just tried again with no luck, I tried with three different browsers and filezilla FTP client and also through a proxy.
I will keep on trying.
Many thanks.
Graham.
Old zip can be downloaded here: https://www.dropbox.com/s/urwyejws0hqtn14/XView.zip?dl=0
Sorry I keep cleaning my dropbox and forget to put this back.. will try and leave it up :)
the latest files from the new larkshayes site simply replace the one from the zip...
I could not log on but the download links above the login area work.... :)
cheers,
AB
Many thanks for taking the time to re post to Dropbox, much appreciated.
Graham.
Hey:
I understand there are some limitations with XPlane + Aerowinx + Vatsim. Its a little difficult to take in 23 pages of thread, is a fair summary that ATC controllers can't see your groundspeed and that's about it? Or is there more to it?
Thanks
Anthony
I have long wished to provide better support for VATSIM within XView, but without access to the XSquawkbox code this has proved to be technically impossible. However, I understand that there are others on this forum that do have access to this code. In order to push this issue forward I have developed a version of XView that publishes the following datarefs:
xview/altitude
xview/groundspeed
xview/squawk
If anybody wishes to modify XSquawkbox to use XView then they should get in touch by email (my username here at hotmaildotcom) and I will give them any support needed. In particular, if there are other data items needed in addition to the above, I can publish them as additional datarefs.
Mike
Just a reminder that the current version of XView is at larkshayesdotcom. I will not upload the version with VATSIM extensions until I know if there are other data items needed.
XView has been stable for several years and has remained virtually unchanged in that time. There are no changes in the documentation. If anybody has found a bug, then please let me know.
XView works just fine with X-Plane 11.
Mike
Quote from: pcpilot on Sun, 14 May 2017 20:52
Many thanks for your response jb747.
Just tried again with no luck, I tried with three different browsers and filezilla FTP client and also through a proxy.
I will keep on trying.
Many thanks.
Graham.
I am sorry that you are unable to get the download. I have checked it all and it works for me. It is hosted on a professional site so there should not be a problem with down time. As the site gets hits from our small community only, it may be that your security software is treating the site as relatively unknown and therefore dodgy. Try turning the security software off for the duration of the download.
Mike
Hi All,
I have updated the dropbox zip file to contain the latest V3 win.xpl
The zip file also contains Mike's win0.xpl which is the "lights 2.5" file from his site.
I have modified the main folder name to be x-plane folder. Simply copy all the files and the aircraft and the resource folders into your X-Plane installation folder.
If you wish to use the "lights 2.5" version simply rename it to win.xpl and replace the win.xpl file in the resources/plugins/xview/64 folder.
I hope Mike does not mind me providing this as a temp option.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/j49mprhuqzmh8uf/XView.zip?dl=0
Cheers,
Alex B
Hello Alex.
I just downloaded and installed the Xveiw. I set the boost as my main PSX computer IP: 192.168.0.112 : 10747. I set the main as the same. Then I clicked boost and main. Neither buttons could be clicked. Means the white square didn't change to green tick.
Did I make a wrong setting?
Thank you and looking forward to the answer.
Hi Mike and Xview users,
I recently bought XPlane 11 (and I am quite enthusiastic about it by the way) and I wanted to give XView a shot.
I have everything installed and configured correctly (XPlane and PSX are on the same computer).
My issue is that clearly the link is not very smooth. I can see constant micro stutters.
I spent lots of hours trying different configurations (I tried running PSX on a separate computer but I got the same results).
In the same scenery, with a heavy add on (IXEG 737), XPlane feels butter smooth.
I am running with main and boost servers on (tried using extrapolation, but it made things worse).
Now, the STRANGE part. I tried XView directly with the default 747 instead of PSXPlane. And guess what...almost butter smooth !!!
But of course, Xview does not control the lights (I don't really care, except for landing and taxi lights at night which are, well, useful!).
Does anyone have a suggestion, or at least a logical explanation to that ?
Thanks Mike for your hard work for this community.
Charles
Hi Jack,
I currently have not installed x-view for x-plane 11. I have been making the ortho tiles for x-plane and have been comparing x-plane 11 with p3d v4 with my son's high end graphics card.. 1080ti. I will go back to the 770 and look at getting xview working. I currently have visual PSX working with P3D v4 but that is as far as I have gotten with testing plugins. I am also looking at trying the lua plugins for x-plane to allow me to change the graphical settings "on the fly" to get it running smoothly.
Sorry I cannot give any other advice at present.
Cheers,
Alex B
Quote from: Jack love 744ERF on Sun, 18 Jun 2017 05:31
Hello Alex.
I just downloaded and installed the Xveiw. I set the boost as my main PSX computer IP: 192.168.0.112 : 10747. I set the main as the same. Then I clicked boost and main. Neither buttons could be clicked. Means the white square didn't change to green tick.
Did I make a wrong setting?
Thank you and looking forward to the answer.
Okay Understood!
some of the simer here already tried with xp11. I think most of them are using with the same computer. right?
Iwill try in the same computer too later.
Thank you Alex.
Best Regards
Jack
No worries, I have PSX running across 3 machines (at present) to control hardware and screens and one high end machine purely for graphics.
2 of my machines are old laptops with faulty displays but have two video ports each, so one runs L & R CDU's via PSXseecon, the other laptop runs the EICAS displays (upper and lower).
I also have a good machine running the PSX main server and driving the two PFD/ND displays and little extras (clock and some side instruments).
All machines run SIOC and have various hardware interfaced to them.
I may build a linux box to handle the Capt and FO displays to free up the big box to handle server, storage and backup duties for the network.
All units use 1Gb networking via an 6850 managed switch.
If I get a chance I will let you know how my testing goes with a separate scenery machine..
Cheers,
Alex B
Hello Alex.
My problem is solved. It's the computer setting, not Xveiw or Psx issue.
I forgot to set the main computer to be recognized by other computers through network. It means the xview is perfectly support the XP11.
Thank you.
Best Regards.
Jack
No problems. All my machines have intranet discovery. I also have a very good firewall behind my router, so public not an issue, but unless you use homegroup Windows does not seem to recognise the difference between private and public accesses.... :)
Silly windows ;)
Cheers,
Alex B
Hello All
Does it without any problems with the XPlane 11 with XView?
For the example : Such as the WT only 1 traffics shown on ND on the XPlane 10.
Also It is no problems with PE? or Another online ATC services?
Thanks
Best Regards,
Younghoon
Quote from: tango4 on Sun, 18 Jun 2017 20:03
Hi Mike and Xview users,
I tried XView directly with the default 747 instead of PSXPlane. And guess what...almost butter smooth !!!
Is it a general feeling that the LR default 747 runs better than PSX Plane with regard to stutters? On my machine it doesn't seem to make that much difference.
I could modify the default plane to go with XView - it is all done in the XP .obj files - but it is not at all easy. The lights do require a lot of processing, so the result might not be any better with the new plane.
Mike
Is XView still available? I tried to logon as above but failed.
Every now and then the link goes down. You might try here:
http://aerowinx.com/board/index.php?topic=1615.msg45348#msg45348
Quote from: peb on Sun, 6 Aug 2017 19:54
Is XView still available? I tried to logon as above but failed.
www.larkshayes.com is there and working as far as I can see. It is hosted on a professional level ISP. Send me an email if you can't get it to work. My username at hotmail.com
Mike
I've been using Xview for a while now, but with the default XPlane 747. I've just been reading some of the posts on this thread which refer to a downloadable 'PSX Plane'. Is this a better plane to use and is this still available? I couldn't find it on the larkshayes site.
Thanks
On page 23 I placed a link to the complete package on my dropbox, in it you will find the 747 you need.
Quote from: asboyd on Sun, 14 May 2017 22:37
Old zip can be downloaded here: https://www.dropbox.com/s/urwyejws0hqtn14/XView.zip?dl=0
Sorry I keep cleaning my dropbox and forget to put this back.. will try and leave it up :)
the latest files from the new larkshayes site simply replace the one from the zip...
I could not log on but the download links above the login area work.... :)
cheers,
AB
Sorry that PSX Plane is not on my site. I will put it up today.
One of the main enhancements in PSX Plane to the original LR stock plane was the implementation of the lights. My understanding of the approach that LR took to implementing the landing lights is that they superimposed a lighter pre-defined shape on the runway to simulate the effect of the lights. This took no account of which lights were on, or in the case of the taxi light, which way the gear was pointing. This made the imlementation fast, but had some side effects, for example that the landing lights were either all on or all off. In the PSX Plane implementation, the pattern for each light is explicitely calculated. The wing and logo lights show the effect well.
Other modifications include the springing in the landing gear as the plane's attitude changes and animations of the various control surfaces, doors etc.
The creation of PSX Plane was a large part of the development of XView. If people report major problems with it in XP11, I will repeat the development with the newer stock version. If frame rate is a problem, turn the lights animation off in the XView settings or turn off HDR rendering in XP settings and see if this improves matters.
Mike
I'm new to PSX and XView, but I have been experimenting with XPlane 11. Its a great add one - well done.
It would be great to see PSX Plane updated for XP11 if feasible for the benefit of the improved textures and I've noted some issues in fixing camera views with the current PSX plane. Otherwise appears to work well.
PSX Plane is now up on larkshayes.com There are instructions there on how to download it.
I will produce a version of PSX Plane that uses the X-Plane 11 default 747. It is not a simple job so it will take a few weeks. Whether there is any great benefit remains to be seen.
Mike
Keith from PE was kind enough to follow my request and the current Pilotedge-Client has the ability to read the groundpseed from a custom dataref. In order to make this work, you need to place a "PE_groundspeed.txt" file in the root folder of the aircraft that you are using with XView.
I don't have time at hte moment to check out the details, but I'm sure it's just a matter of providing the name of the custom dataref. I also guess that the DR should provide the GS in the same format as X-Plane itself.
Mike, does XView already have a DR for the GS available or else could you sneak that in a future update? Thank you!
Hi. I just bought PSX, a fantastic program, thanks.
My question is, where can i find a step by step guide to use X-Plane´s visual system. I have a Mac.
Hi Matthias,
I have a version of XView that has a groundspeed dr. It is xview/groundspeed. I can email the win.xpl if you like.
Mike
Hi B747Pilot,
If you go to www.larkshayes.com you will find all you need for XView there. It provides viuals for PSX using X-Plane. The documentation will tell you how to set it up and I am sure any questions will be answered here by me or somebody else. Make sure you select the Mac version to download.
XView was developed for Windows. I converted it to Mac but it hasn't had the extensive use that the Windows version has had. To get it to run, you need to install Apple's XCode on your machine. It's free.
Mike
Hi Mike.
I just installed Xcode for mac and win.xpl in to My (X-Plane Directory)/Resources/plugins/XView/64 and started PSX, nothing happends.
Hi, what did you do to start the main and boost server in PSX?
|-|ardy
In Instructor panel I selected this comp as main server and started the Boost.
How will PSX find the visual system?
You need to start the main server as well.
This Precision Simulator should be: The main server - is ON
My selection is "This Precision Simulator should be: The main server" - is ON
Hi,
I don't have a mac to hand at the moment so it is difficult to diagnose your problem. Shouldn't the plugin be called mac.xpl? Again I am not sure, but I don't think you need the /64 directory on the mac. If you go into the x-plane menu plugins, you should see XView there. If not, it hasn't loaded properly.
Mike
Quote from: B747Pilot on Mon, 14 Aug 2017 19:01
My selection is "This Precision Simulator should be: The main server" - is ON
That's correct, but it's not the whole story. You also need to click the "Start" button on
Network > Main.
On
Network > MainClick "The main server"
Click "Start" (the large start button)
On
Network > BoostClick "Start" (the small start button)
Hi Hardy.
Thanks for a real good simulator, outstanding.
I have a genuine PSX and X-Plane 11
I have installed Xcode for mac.
I have installed XView for mac in X-Plane 11/Resourses/plugin/XView/mac.xpl
I have started the main server
I have started the boost
Still, nothing
Can you see XView in the list of plugins? See rightmost of the X-Plane menus: File ... etc. If it is not there then it hasn't loaded properly and we will need to sort that.
Mike
Quote from: mikeindevon on Mon, 14 Aug 2017 11:20
Hi B747Pilot,
If you go to www.larkshayes.com you will find all you need for XView there. It provides viuals for PSX using X-Plane. The documentation will tell you how to set it up and I am sure any questions will be answered here by me or somebody else. Make sure you select the Mac version to download.
XView was developed for Windows. I converted it to Mac but it hasn't had the extensive use that the Windows version has had. To get it to run, you need to install Apple's XCode on your machine. It's free.
Mike
Hardy
Please just delete this reply.
I don't understand why his not answer to only my reply and this. :(
Thanks
Best Regards,
Younghoon
Hi Mike
Yes I can, and there I find Settings and About.
Now in my X-Plane 11 the aircraft is gone, I only see senarios outside the aircraft. And it is erratic and close down every 30 sec
It is intentional that you don't see the cockpit inside as that is provided by PSX. If you really want to you can select it from the X-Plane view menu, where you can also select external views of the aicraft - eg "chase". Make sure you select PSX Plane as the aircraft.
If the software is crashing, I will try and run the mac version here and see what is going on.
Go into the XView settings and make sure extrapolation is turned off.
If that doesn't solve the problem, go into PSX Preferences, Basic and adjust the "Frame rate limit - FPS" to the left to get lower values.
Mike
Hi B747Pilot,
I have tried Mac XView with XP11 and I believe that the code is working. Both XP11 (including XView) and PSX run satisfactorily separately. However, on my low-end Mac they don't run together.
My Mac is a Mini and was bought solely for building the OSX version of the software. It has an i7 processor with just 2 cores. When I run both simulators, XP11 takes over most of the CPU and PSX is only able to achieve a frame rate of around 4fps with the CPU resources remaining. This gives an erratic behaviour like you describe and it is impossible to fly.
Check the frame rate that you are achieving with PSX in the top left corner of the screen to see if this is your problem. If it is, then there are a number of options. You can run PSX on a separate machine, using the most powerful machine for XP as PSX doesn't use so many resources. I can help you with the network settings for that if necessary. The second machine could be a PC.
Alternatively you can download a demo copy of XP10 and try that. With this both sims run satisfactorily on my Mac.
XP11 has been developed to maximise performance by using all the available cores, whereas the older versions typically used one or two cores. This has not been a problem with Windows, as the user can set the processor affinity to limit the number of cores a particular application has access to. As I understand it, this is not possible with OSX - somebody please correct me if I am wrong.
Please let me know how you get on.
Mike
Some info on PSX Plane with XP11.
PSX Plane is a modification of the default 747 from XP10. The mods allow PSX to animate many external features of the aircraft. The 747 in XP11 is a very different animal to the XP10 version. In particular, much of the logic of the plane is written in Lua, a scripting language. An example of the sort of logic implemented in Lua might be you can't illuminate lights if there is no electricity.
This logic fights with that coded into PSX Plane and for example prevents the landing lights working. There is a workaround until the next version of PSX Plane.
Go into the XP plugins menu and disable XLua. The landing lights now work, although the switches are transposed.
Mike
Hi Mike,
just a question to the COMMs. In the XView plugin, the COMM animation box is checked, (in the cfg file: DO_COMMS = TRUE) but there is no action at the XP 11 COMMs to be seen. They simply read 111.70 and do not change
Is this a known issue, or did I do something wrong? As far I rememeber in XP10 the COMM animation worked.
The landing/ taxy etc. lights work, except the strobe lights, even with no electrical power on in the model.
Peter
Hi Peter,
As far as I can see, the COM simulation is working as before. The COM1 frequency within X-Plane is changing correctly. You won't see this on any cockpit drawn by X-Plane as these cockpits are disabled by XView to avoid conflicts with PSX. What use this COM1 setting can be put to depends on other software.
It sounds like you are using the stock 747 from XP11. Many of the animations available with PSX Plane do not work properly with this new aircraft. PSX Plane seems to work perfectly well with XP11. The only thing missing is some of the new fuselage reflections introduced with the new enhanced illumination effects. You can find PSX Plane at www.larkshayes.com. With this aircraft the external lights certainly go out if you turn the electrics off in PSX.
I am going through the implementation of the XP11 stock 747 with the aim of making it suitable for working with XView. The technology of this new plane is quite different from that in XP10 and earlier versions, so it is a lot of work.
Hello,
Just to be sure, beacons and strobe lights don't work on XP11 with PSX Plane, but all other lights are working well.
Is it normal, do you find the same result ?
thanks
Bastien
Hi Mike,
thanks for your input. I used the PSX model from XP 10. Will download the new one and report.
Bastien,
Beacons also do not work. Will check with the new model.
Peter
Hi Mike,
there seems no difference to the old PSX Plane file. File size is the same as from 2014 and everything else also the same. Animations work, lights work (see below). But no comms...
Bastien:
When you check "Prep Electrical Systems for Boarding" under "Flight" menu, lower, both beacons and wing strobes will work.
Peter
Hi Peter,
Can you clarify for me what exactly you saw with respect to comms in XP10 that you don't see now in XP11.
With regard to the beacons, it always works properly for me and I don't have to prep electrical systems in XP. Can you explain how to get the PSX Plane into a state where it is necessary to prep the electrics to get the beacons to work. Then I can investigate what is going on.
Mike
Hi Peter and Mike,
With your feedback and advice, I've found in XP when I load a plane, option "Start with engine running" was not checked.
With this option checked it works well
Thanks to both of you
Bastien.
Mike,
About "ground speed", did you found a way to fill it in XP ? This is the only missing feature to be able to flight Online with all informations needed.
Thank you
Bastien
Bastien,
I haven't found a way to poke groundspeed into XP and I have tried very hard. It must be computed internally. However, I have a version of XView that can output groundspeed in the dataref XView/groundspeed.
Mike
Hi Mike,
Quote from: mikeindevon on Sat, 19 Aug 2017 00:58
Can you clarify for me what exactly you saw with respect to comms in XP10 that you don't see now in XP11.
In XP 10 as far as I recall, the following happend: When I changed the frequency in PSX the radio talk in XP stopped. Changing back it started again.
I cannot remember to look on the XP10 Comms.
In XP 11 I noticed, that there was no radio talk at all. After giving power to the aircraft (Prep Electrical Systems for Boarding) the radio talk on XP 11 starts. But it does not stop or change, when I change the frequency in PSX. In the XP 11 ATC menu the marked frequency does not change.
Quote from: mikeindevon on Sat, 19 Aug 2017 00:58
With regard to the beacons, it always works properly for me and I don't have to prep electrical systems in XP. Can you explain how to get the PSX Plane into a state where it is necessary to prep the electrics to get the beacons to work. Then I can investigate what is going on.
After each start of XP 11 nothing happens regarding the beacons and the strobes when I select the respective PSX switches. The other lights work when I switch them on in PSX. Only after checking Prep Electrical Systems for Boarding Beacon and Strobes can be switched on via PSX.
After restart of XP 11 the same. I have to check Prep Electrical Systems for Boarding again and then shitch off and on the PSX switches so get the beacons and strobes in XP 11 to work.
Peter
Thanks for that Peter, it gives me something to go on. Mike
Mike,
yesterday as I re-installed XP11.05 in my short of space SSD disk, to use * only * as a visuals generator for PSX, I went to the larkshayes site and downloaded:
.) "PSX Plane" ( very difficult to get a workable FTP session... but I eventually managed to... )
.) From "PSX Downloads" I get the chance to D/L "XView 64bit Version 3.0" and "XView 64 bit (lights 2.25) Version3a", and I don't know exactly which one I should use ? Also, the "PSX Pane" brings it's own "win.xpl", and I don't know if it's 3.0 or 3a fro above ?
I tested the setup in my i5, with XP11.05, using "Borderless Gamming Windows" and split my monitor display into the upper ( X-Plane ) and lower ( PSX ) areas. Was missing it :-)
What is strange is that most of the time when I start a new session I always get the "IRS 3 ..." EICAS message ? or something like that - have to check the exact message text...
Also, I had to disable the sound in XP or I will keep listening to a sound of the gear solenoid all of the time ( ? ) but looking from na outsider view the gear doesn't keep retracting / extending...
Ah! Thanks you so MUCH for giving us this great plugin for free !!!
Quote from: mikeindevon on Sat, 19 Aug 2017 18:39
Bastien,
I haven't found a way to poke groundspeed into XP and I have tried very hard. It must be computed internally. However, I have a version of XView that can output groundspeed in the dataref XView/groundspeed.
Mike
Hello Mike,
Thanks for the reply and your work to find a solution.
I guess we will not be able to fly on IVAO network with this config (PSX / XP11 / X-IVAP) as long as this issue is not managed.
Perhaps someone has tried to connect PSX / XP11 on Vatsim network ? is it working with full transponder, speed/alt and tcas reporting ?
Bastien
Hi Mike
When X-Plane 11 and PSX are running PSX show 1 frm in upper left corner.
Hi Mike
When using X-plane 10 frm is still 1
Hi B747Pilot,
Can you let me know what computer you have: make, model, cpu, ram and graphics card.
Mike
Hi Mike
iMac (Retina 5K, 27 inch, late 2015) 4 GHz Intel Core i7 memory 8 GB 1867 MHz DDR3
graphics AMD Radeon R9 M395 2048 MB
Hi jcomm,
It is the top one, version 3.
LR introduced an error into the lighting in 10.5 and carried that forward to 11. I reported it and they fixed it in 11, but probably not in 10.5, although I haven't tried it. They had set a variable to integer rather than float.
XView 3a was a version with a work-around for the problem. Don't use it for 11, but you may need it for the later 10.x releases.
I am currently working on a new version of PSX Plane based on the XP11 model. It's going to take a few days yet as this stuff is complicated. If you open Exterior_wings2.obj from the version 11 aircraft in a text editor you will see why! I haven't added it all up but there must be over 100,000 lines of code in the aircraft model.
Mike
Hi B747Pilot,
That sounds good enough. It may be that there is some problem with the macs. I assumed the fact that I couldn't run both PSX and X-Plane on the same machine was down to the fact that I had a bottom of the range mac. It works fine on my PC.
Perhaps other mac users could comment on whether both PSX and X-Plane can run together on their machines.
Mike
I am using Flight Illusion hardware gauges in my sim which draws data directly from Xplane.
Using XView with PSX, the airspeed and altitude data is not being output by Xplane. I've read in posts that there are some challenges with XView poking this data to XPlane. Is this issue still being looked into (or can it be)?
Alternatively is anyone aware of a PSX to Flight Illusion software bridge?
Hi Hammerstan,
X-Plane will use the position and angular data that XView feeds in from PSX rather than its own flight model if one sets the dataref "sim/operation/override/override_planepath" to 1. Obviously this needs to be done. The problem is that this override disables all sorts of other X-Plane internals as well: such as airspeed, groundspeed, altitude, and probably others.
XView does know all these values so the only solution that I can see is for other devices or software that needs this information is either write an X-Plane plugin that talks to XView to get the data, or to get it directly from PSX. Presumably Flight Illusion gauges talk to X-Plane via a plugin - it would be a simple, well fairly simple, job to get the necessary datarefs from me. I would be happy to make the necessary mods to expose them - just a few lines of c++.
I can't see Laminar Research implementing a less draconian override any time soon. Why don't you talk to Flight Illusion about it and see if we can make XView talk to their drivers.
Mike
Mike,
thx for the explanation regarding the correct XView plugin to use with XP11.
Looking fwd for the upcoming PSX747 !
Mike
Thanks for your helpful response.
I have been in contact with Flight Illusion at your suggestion. While I would have considered it a quick fix at their end to convert their drivers that receive FSUIPC to PSX, they have no appetite to do this.
Their suggestion was that an interface could be built into PSX using their SDK as has been incorporated into Prosim and Sim-Avionics.
Hi Guys,
there was an unreplied question here about not switching the Freq´s from PSX to X-Plane. So on my side unfortunately. XP11 using. Any help ?
Thanks
Steffen
Still working on the problem with Xview on Mac with X-Plane 11.
I couldn't get the lights to work. All of a sudden they did!
Next session.... gone again.
I am trying to troubleshoot and see if the startup sequence of X-plane, PSX, Boost, Server or aircraft loading has to do anything with this erratic success story..
Ok, so I got it to work twice.
But no longer. Something weird going on.
Again, the setup is: Xview for Mac on X-plane 11 for Mac.
I got it to work in two sessions, but I do not know why. As I restarted all, it didn't work anymore. I tried loading the default 747, switching the lights on and off in X-plane on the pannel and then load the Xview 747. No luck.
There seems to be a success sequence to it, that I can't figure out or reproduce.
When it works, all light switches out of PSX work in X-plane 11. Wonderfull stuff, the more frustrating not being able to reproduce it.
Hi Mike,
yesterday I encountered again an old problem which I often had with XP-10 and now with XP-11.
When flying along a certain time in one direction the scenery suddenly "realigns". That means a sudden bank (~<1°) and pitch (~2-3°) correction. It feels as if the pitch and bank alignement sometimes is not actualized for some reasons and then there is a sudden correction with noticable bigger changes.
To say it with other words: the position is continuously updated (mostly rather smooth, sometimes with stuttering) but the pitch/bank attitude alignment sometimes seems to be "forgotten" so that this bigger sudden alignement is necessary.
During this sudden change, the PSX PFD does not move = no changes in pitch and bank indication.
Peter
Anybody running Xview and XP11 successfully on a Mac?
Hi Peter,
Can you give me a route to fly where you see this. How long before you see this? I presume that you are flying straight and level. I will have a look in a couple of weeks - hols at the moment. It is hard to see why XView would cause this as it just takes the angles from the boost server and passes them to X-Plane in the appropriate format. I would need to replicate it and take a data dump to see what is happening.
Mike
Hi Mike,
I positioned PSX about 70 - 80 NM west of GCTS at FL200 to perform an ILS RWY 08 (without route except dep. and arrival route). It was approximately at or short after passing GCGM when it happened. It was night and I only saw the lights of La Gomera and Teneriffe moving. The clouds (XEnviro) did not seem to be affected.
Before this I performed some traffic circuits at MMMX, then climbed out to FL 200 and repositioned PSX.
The next time when I have this issue I will load the latest autosave.situ and see if I can reproduce this for myself. Maybe it is also a good idea to stop the time between these events.
As mentioned in XP-10 this event occurred rather often (as far as I recall this was already mentioned here). For XP-11 I cannot make a solid satement, as I did not fly so much the last weeks with the sim.
Hope this helps
Peter
EDIT: found the thread: http://aerowinx.com/board/index.php?topic=3461.msg35428#msg35428
and here on the same thread page 17
Sorry for not being in the sequence of the lasts posts in this thread, but I wonder in XView could be used with no flight dynamics model at all running on x-plane ?
In P3D this is possible, and used by PSX.NET, but in X-Plane the least we can have is 1 flight model per frame. Maybe we could ask Austin to implement NILL Flight models per frame... Or does Xview in any way use the calculations performed by X-Plane's FDM engine ?
IIRC, XView already disables X-Planes flight model (sim/operation/override/override_planepath[0]), so whatever flight models per frame is set to, shouldn't make a difference for XView.
However, that setting is also relevant for AI aircraft, which are not controlled through PSX. So if you want to use X-Planes ai planes, you shouldn't set this to 0 even if it was possible.
Yes Mathias,
indeed that answers my question - that particular dataref being used means XView completely overrides the flight path calculations by X-Plane.
I never use AI aircraft, at least in X-Plane where it is a real burden for the processor :-/
Thanks for the enlightenment !
There is some good news on the problem of supplying groundspeed and other data to X-Plane to assist with interfacing to virtual airlines. I have filed bug reports to LR about this over several years and never had a reply. But today I posted a comment on Ben's blog and got a favourable response. (http://developer.x-plane.com/author/bsupnik/).
What I need now is a list of the data that the ATC guys need. As I am not an expert in this area, could someone start a thread here that can be used to build up the list of all the data items needed. I don't want to go back to Ben and find later that I have missed something vital.
zOMG that is a long time ago...
I believe it is mostly lat, lon, and 2992/1013 altitude. Basically what a transponder would give you. Ground speed is injected as well because the timing-sensitive nature of determining ground speed from blip motion does not work very well over the internet. Transponder code, basic aircraft model (jet/prop/number of engines), refined model, livery, flight number, and probably limited attitude/heading data. I believe there was space for details like lights, gear, flaps, but those were always optional.
Mike: mail me, I have something for you.
H
update
Found this doc... this is the TCAS data that the online client gets from aircraft in the vicinity.
callsign The callsign of the plane, guaranteed unique and usually extremely constant.
engines Number of engines on the plane, for visual generators.
model Basic plane model, such as "helicopter" or "jet".
lat Latitude in degrees.decimal_degrees.
lon Longitude in degrees.decimal_degrees.
alt True altitude MSL in feet.
spd Ground speed in knots.
pbh Pitch, bank, and heading encoded in a single 32-bits integer. The fields are encoded in Microsoft Flight Simulator units, 10 bits pitch, then 10 bits bank, then 10 bits heading, and the two least significant bits are zero.
I can only speak for Pilotedge, as I don't fly on Vatsim or Ivao. According to the staff, there were only two issues when flying on PE with XView:
- No groundspeed
- Transponder stuck on IDENT
I don't know if you already fixed the IDENT issue, it's been some updates ago since I tried PSX/Xview with PE.
Hi, guys.
I tested xp11 and psx with success. What a wonderful program this is.
However when I try to fly xp11 alone again, my joystick is not working. XP11 still recognize my joystick, only hat switch is working. not throttle, pitch and roll. feels like xp11 is in slew mode (?). And also I discovered some keystrokes also not working for examples "B" key for brakes.
Could someone tell me solutions please?
Choi
Hi,
I know this issue.
Actually, disabling the plugin in X-plane menu doesn't work.
You have to rename or remove the Xview file in the plugin folder before starting X-plane.
Regards,
Bastien.
Hi, Bastien.
I followed your instructions. Now joystick working perfectly!!
Thank you very much.
Regards,
Choi.
Hello,
I am trying to download Xview but I keep getting an authentication failed message, did the login credentials change?
xview@larkshayes.com
747Pilot
Thanks in advance
Mark
Once you get the site up just click the links on the right hand side. I did not need the login.
Cheers,
AlexB
Hi Alex,
I guess I'm confused, I was trying to use ftp to download the files according to the login info below, there is no site I can get to. Has the procedure changed to download the files? Thanks.
QuoteThe XView User Guide is now available at ftp://larkshayes.com.
Username : xview@larkshayes.com
Password : 747Pilot
The software will be loaded in the same place later in July.
Mike
Hi Mark,
it's this www site: www.larkshayes.com
However, the site is currently displaying this:
QuoteError displaying the error page: Application Instantiation Error: The MySQL adapter mysqli is not available
Regards,
|-|ardy
Still available via my dropbox link:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/j49mprhuqzmh8uf/XView.zip?dl=0
Cheers,
AlexB
In P3D its possible to display 6 digit lat and long so that we can sync the aircraft and psx's position if we use an internal pushback program - GSX or better pushback. Does anyone know how to display this info in XP11? I want to try switch models for pushback as the PSX one has me going all over the place.
Thanks for the link Alex, that worked!
Although most of the time I prefer to use PSX standalone, I couldn't avoid trying it with the latest XP11 release ( 11.10 beta 3 and going... )
The Visuals Sim is suffering multiple updates on various fronts, and is even more smooth and stable than it was when released so, setting the # of flight models perf fram to the minimal ( 1 ), setting Sounds to OFF, and using this PSX-744 I am able to run XP11 and PSX in the best possible way for my rig:
- Instead of running XP11 in full-screen mode and then having to load yet another program for window shaping ( borderless gamming ) I simply set XP11 to run in windowed mode, create a layout for PSX where NUMPAD 4 set's the lower part of the screen with a display of them line including the PFD, ND, upper EICAS and gear, and fill the rest of the screen with XP11.
- Instead of using "Always on Top" or the like, I simply bring my cursor to the PSX window and click there to make it active.
This way I run both sims only and it works very well, with fluid XP11 and PSX in my old i5 2500...
Quote from: jcomm on Mon, 16 Oct 2017 15:18
...
- Instead of running XP11 in full-screen mode and then having to load yet another program for window shaping ( borderless gamming ) I simply set XP11 to run in windowed mode, create a layout for PSX where NUMPAD 4 set's the lower part of the screen with a display of them line including the PFD, ND, upper EICAS and gear, and fill the rest of the screen with XP11.
- Instead of using "Always on Top" or the like, I simply bring my cursor to the PSX window and click there to make it active.
This way I run both sims only and it works very well, with fluid XP11 and PSX in my old i5 2500...
Similar to this ?
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0ByHqlvAm35geRFZWU1drdEs2VEU
My setup on page 3 is of course for t/o and landing.
Images are a 'what if I land the Jumbo in Zante' - from an approach that for the main, referring to VORs.
- Carl
CarlBB how have you done that? Is it all on a single monitor?
Yep !
I was wondering exactly the same :-)
How on Earth ( PSX + XP Earth ) ? .....
This is the best I can get, using just XP11 in windowed mode ( which doesn't allow to make it's window smaller in height, but saves the burden of yet another app running in the background, like "borderless-gw" ) and PSX:
(http://www.fsfiles.org/flightsimshotsv2/images/2017/10/17/psx-xp11.md.jpg) (http://www.fsfiles.org/flightsimshotsv2/image/GH0W)
Hi Both,
Two monitors stacked.
Lower monitor is the PSX views that you see
Upper monitor has X-plane (slightly shrunk). The 'trick' comes from the guy that posted the Canarsie approach - w to get into virtual cockpit (FOV around 60).
Also on upper monitor is another instance of PSX configured to give me access to the items i need quickly - runway entry/exit mostly.
- Carl
Hi Carl,
Great work! What size monitors are you using if you don't mind me asking?
T
Thanks :) - the monitors are 21 inch Iyama (about 3 years old now I think)
- Carl
Hi all. I'm new here, thinking about buying psx but would like the option of scenery generation via xplane.
I run linux so currently this is not available. Is there any chance of getting a linux release of xview? I have some programming skills so i would be willing to compile or port if required to get this working.
Cheers
Hi,
Just wondered if there was any update as to the XP 11 version of Xview with the XP11 model file; also any news about the GS issue?
T
I believe the author - Mike aka mikeindevon here at the Forum - is active again and working on an updated version of XView for XP11.
He's probably busy, but at least we have some hope of getting it sometime in the Future...
Meanwhile the present versions works beautifully, and it is still my preferred ( compared to the FSX or P3D variants ) in terms of smoothness, ease of use and stability / functionality.
I agree - the current XVew works very well indeed (XP11)! No messing around and does exactly what it says it will! Even works with XP "runway follows terrain" without any problems.
There is an oddity though - the 747 in X-Plane has the turn center located behind the aircraft model, which makes taxiing on the ground interesting. Very minor detail.
Hi,
how do you arrange the weather implementation between XP11 and PSX, especially the upper winds ?
Best
Steffen
PSX can use XVew ( optional ) to inject weather into XP11.
The only components that really matter are cloud coverage, precipitation, TS... because the rest is run by PSX itself, XP working only as a World Visuals Simulator.
There is no way that I know to do the feed in the opposite direction.
My PSX & X-plane 11 elevations don't match up. Any fix to this?
T
Quote from: Toga on Sat, 4 Nov 2017 16:03
My PSX & X-plane 11 elevations don't match up. Any fix to this?
T
If you're referring to that irritating bump and " eighty feet ... " aural, in cycle when you load one of the sims in a visuals - fdm/ systems combination, you usually get rid of that by loading psx 1st, then xp11...
But, honestly, for many reasons my solution is even better - I totally gave up on trying to use a visuals generator for PSX. Either FSX / P3D or XP impose, IMHO, so many limitations, in smoothness and perception of the true fluidity of PSX's "feel of flight" and response to commands / power / weather effects when used standalone, that unless someone comes up with a customized scenery generator for it, the best way is by far to use it alone.
I don't disagree however currently it's the only way to fly on PE or VATSIM.
T
Quote from: jcomm on Mon, 6 Nov 2017 07:45
But, honestly, for many reasons my solution is even better - I totally gave up on trying to use a visuals generator for PSX. Either FSX / P3D or XP impose, IMHO, so many limitations, in smoothness and perception of the true fluidity of PSX's "feel of flight" and response to commands / power / weather effects when used standalone, that unless someone comes up with a customized scenery generator for it, the best way is by far to use it alone.
Fortunately, while our brains are screaming for visual food (like Xplane of FSX, etc) our brains are quite capable to visualize what we are missing (in most cases). Frame rate that PSX alone achieves canot be in no way replaced - at least for me.
Hardy can you explain how did you invented tiny red dots on the ground (blue ones are gate positions i know), they in my brain sometimes coincide with mayor roads , landmarks (in user manual you are mentioning "other objects") ?
best regards
vito
The red lights are airport beacons, on the towers, taken from the internal database of VHF com radio station coordinates. Some station database coordinates are located on runways instead on buildings, therefore PSX fades them out when they are within a certain distance.
Regards,
|-|ardy
Just an idea - can switching on the windscreen wipers in PSX, switch on the wipers in the virtual cockpit in X-Plane ?
Thanks
- Carl
Quote from: mikeindevon on Tue, 29 Jul 2014 18:00
The full software package is now up on my server (details of login above).
Please let me know of any issues.
Mike
Hey Mike,
unfortunately I'm getting an FTP 530 error when trying to login to the server. Is it still up and running?
Cheers
Dennis
Quote from: Dennis B on Thu, 7 Dec 2017 16:07
Quote from: mikeindevon on Tue, 29 Jul 2014 18:00
The full software package is now up on my server (details of login above).
Please let me know of any issues.
Mike
Hey Mike,
unfortunately I'm getting an FTP 530 error when trying to login to the server. Is it still up and running?
Cheers
Dennis
Hi Dennis, just go to www.larkshayes.com for the files, no need to login
John
Hey John, just tested it out, and I'm straightly overwhelmed. Following the installation instructions, XView was working right "out of the box". And the aircraft detail work is just awesome. with working landing and logo lights and a great landing gear animation. Thanks for your efforts!
BTW, I could not find the mentioned "installation package" mentioned in the User Guide. Rather there's only the win.xpl respective win0.xpl hiding under "Downloads" on your website.
Luckily, I still had the .cfg file of a (previous?) version of XView and put it to work.
Best regards
Dennis
Quote from: Dennis B on Sat, 9 Dec 2017 17:17
hiding under "Downloads" on your website.
Best regards
Dennis
glad you got it working, however it's not my website it belongs to Mike aka MikeinDevon
John
A possible solution for PSX and Xview on a single display :
https://rog.asus.com/articles/gaming-monitors/rog-swift-pg65-big-format-gaming-display-bfgd-120hz-gsync-65-inch-4k-with-hdr/
:D
I currently use a similar display for my forward view... works like a treat... using Prepar3D... but ought to be very similar with XPL.
(https://i.imgur.com/mmB6o8D.jpg)
The overhead and MIP/Pedestal are on other monitors to my right.
HTH- C
Nice !
Which display model it is ?
I guess the new Asus display will cost an arm and a leg....
It's a 65" 4K Sony XBR2- works beautifully, and was quite reasonable...
Best- C
Any update on a native XP11 version? I'd prefer not to bother with P3D if possible.
hello,
I'm using a setup like cavaricooper with PSX and Xview/XP11 on 55" 4K LG TV !
It's working very well ;)
Even PSX alone on the full 4K screen is really impressive !
Bye
Bastien
Does it require substantially increased load on the CPU or GPU to operate standalone PSX with a 4K display? Should I expect the fps with standalone PSX (no external scenery) to change if I obtain a 4K monitor?
Phil,
I haven't noticed any FPS drop using native PSX in 4k.
I do have an Nvidia 1080TI tho'...
It's 72fps 95% of the time, with slight drops to 60-65 when panning around, but it's hardly noticeable.
Hope this helps.
cheers
-E
Quote from: Phil Bunch on Tue, 6 Feb 2018 19:35
Does it require substantially increased load on the CPU or GPU to operate standalone PSX with a 4K display? Should I expect the fps with standalone PSX (no external scenery) to change if I obtain a 4K monitor?
Phil,
Before the 4K screen, I had a Full HD 27".
I haven't seen any performance issue
Regards
Bastien
been trying XP11 and PSX, works well but it does not report altitude, speed etc correctly in XFSUIPC.
Does anyone achieve smooth performance using xview? I've tried P3D and got sick of it within 15 mins.
With the acknowledgement and gratitude of all of the authors of the interfaces to the scenery generators firstly stated, my experience is PSX.NET. is more fluid than xview.
mine xview doesnt work anymore, i wanted to retry aerowinx with x plane but unfortunally it doesnit work.i updated the x plane and added ixeg 737 aswell.
the xview isnt shown anymore in the addons, could the ixeg 737 mess the file up?
Not sure as I have a separate X-Plane 11 for PSX.
I shortcut back to Ortho so the overhead is not very high.
Reason I do this is back in X-Plane 10 I had something strange when using my main sim with xview. Doubt there is anything wrong, but for me it just feels right to keep my regular XP away from PSX scenery gen.
- Carl
I now have PSX + XP11 working extremely well across networked PCs.
Some videos: https://www.twitch.tv/hammerstan (https://www.twitch.tv/hammerstan)
No add-ons to XP11 other than Ortho4Xp and some airport scenery.
A few gremlins:
(1) XSquawkbox cannot read my airspeed (set to nil) - Is Mike still working on a fix with Laminar?
(2) I can't send altitude and airspeed to Flight Illusion gauges - Flight Illusion advised that Hardy would need to build a PSX/Flight Illusion bridge (Flight Illusion would not work on it). They offered free gauges to Hardy if this helped.
(3) A pushback function via the FMC would be handy
Quote from: Hammerstan on Mon, 19 Feb 2018 12:07
I now have PSX + XP11 working extremely well across networked PCs.
Some videos: https://www.twitch.tv/hammerstan (https://www.twitch.tv/hammerstan)
No add-ons to XP11 other than Ortho4Xp and some airport scenery.
A few gremlins:
(1) XSquawkbox cannot read my airspeed (set to nil) - Is Mike still working on a fix with Laminar?
(2) I can't send altitude and airspeed to Flight Illusion gauges - Flight Illusion advised that Hardy would need to build a PSX/Flight Illusion bridge (Flight Illusion would not work on it). They offered free gauges to Hardy if this helped.
(3) A pushback function via the FMC would be handy
Amazing setup, what screens and cockpit hardware do you use?
For point 3, I recommend Gary's PSX addon, which adds a center CDU pushback option.
Quote from: Hammerstan on Mon, 19 Feb 2018 12:07
(3) A pushback function via the FMC would be handy
If you don't mind having to call an X-Plane plugin for pushback, I would highly recommend using BetterPushback. You can set up the pushback path and end position very precisely. Even "multi-leg" pushbacks can be set up easily.
https://github.com/skiselkov/BetterPushbackC/releases
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3H0sucua2Wc
But you need to try if it works with Xview, because I don't know if
a) it can do the pushback when X-Plane's flight model is disabled. I use Better Pushback in X-Plane 10 and 11, but I'm not using Xview so I can't tell...
b) Xview submits the changes in lat/long and heading to PSX or if it's strictly one-way.
Quote from: GodAtum on Mon, 19 Feb 2018 22:30
Amazing setup, what screens and cockpit hardware do you use?
For point 3, I recommend Gary's PSX addon, which adds a center CDU pushback option.
Perhaps a discussion for another thread, but: 5 x 48inch LCD displays. Hardware is a combination of home built machined aluminium/perspex components, plus professional products (Flightdeck Solutions, Flight Illusion gauges, CP Flight MCP, Open Cockpits CDUs, 737yoke.com, Leobodnar input cards, Phidget output LED cards, Interface IT cards from Flightdeck Solutions). I've recently procured a genuine glare shield and 747 throttle quadrant to replace my home built TQ.
I've heard about pushback via Gary's PSX.net (for P3D) but I'm using XView for XP11.
Quote from: mgeiss on Tue, 20 Feb 2018 04:05
If you don't mind having to call an X-Plane plugin for pushback, I would highly recommend using BetterPushback. You can set up the pushback path and end position very precisely. Even "multi-leg" pushbacks can be set up easily.
Thanks, but I don't believe Better Pushback can force XP11 to output via XView to PSX. One way only PSX->XView->XP11
is there any way to display your lat/long position in x-plane to show 6 digits? That way you could enable xview after pushback.
Quote from: Hammerstan on Mon, 19 Feb 2018 12:07
I now have PSX + XP11 working extremely well across networked PCs.
Some videos: https://www.twitch.tv/hammerstan (https://www.twitch.tv/hammerstan)
Looking at the videos; the bottom corners of the visuals are really jerky. Is this a twitch transcode issue or is the source like this?
To my knowledge, ExternalSim is the
only scenery bridge that directly solves this jerkiness - it's not enough to simply take the PSX boost output and hard-inject position updates as there is a synchronization boundary to overcome between the PSX frame rate and the scenery generator frame rate.
PS.NET works regardless of simulator, I'm using it in Xplane 11.
Quote from: Mark on Tue, 20 Feb 2018 10:42
Looking at the videos; the bottom corners of the visuals are really jerky. Is this a twitch transcode issue or is the source like this?
I suspect it is twitch given my bandwidth settings. The altitude tape on ascent / descent also has jerkiness. Live it is silky smooth, or at least I don't detect any jerkiness, unless frames drop in high density airports. I have the PSX boost server on the same PC as XP11.
Quote from: GodAtum on Tue, 20 Feb 2018 18:40
PS.NET works regardless of simulator, I'm using it in Xplane 11.
Thanks, I didn't appreciate this.
I don't find xview to be as smooth as silk. It's not bad but it's not silk.
Quote from: GodAtum on Tue, 20 Feb 2018 18:40
PS.NET works regardless of simulator, I'm using it in Xplane 11.
Are you referring to PSX.NET or PSX.NET.P3D.ExternalSim?
I can't see how ExternalSim would work in XP11 as the install makes changes to the aircraft.cfg file and also adds files to the Documents\Prepar3D v4 Add-ons folder and the AppData folder which XP11 does not have?
John
PSX.NET which I think has the pushback feature in the centre CDU.
Quote from: GodAtum on Wed, 21 Feb 2018 17:28
PSX.NET which I think has the pushback feature in the centre CDU.
To be clear are you referring to the pushback feature of PSX.NET which I now understand is a standalone software bridge to PSX which has a pushback interface, or BACARS? If BACARS where is the pushback menu in the centre CDU?
Really great add-ons Gary and co have developed, but I'm on the start of the learning curve right now as I migrate my sim from P3D/Project Magenta to PSX/XP11.
Hi all, especially Mike and Matthias (see quotes),
I figured out how PilotEdge might work with the PE_groundspeed.txt and I am looking for the mentioned version of XView with dataref of the ground speed. Can anyone of you provide me this version of the XView win.xpl?
Else, more located probably at the developer forum, anyone has an idea how I can build my own plugin at x-plane to provide a dataref for the ground speed in order to get Pilot Edge running?
Else I should probably buy Prepare3d, which I never wanted to :), because it seems to work with it.
Thanks and always happy landings
Martin
Quote from: mgeiss on Mon, 14 Aug 2017 07:17
Keith from PE was kind enough to follow my request and the current Pilotedge-Client has the ability to read the groundpseed from a custom dataref. In order to make this work, you need to place a "PE_groundspeed.txt" file in the root folder of the aircraft that you are using with XView.
I don't have time at hte moment to check out the details, but I'm sure it's just a matter of providing the name of the custom dataref. I also guess that the DR should provide the GS in the same format as X-Plane itself.
Mike, does XView already have a DR for the GS available or else could you sneak that in a future update? Thank you!
Quote from: mikeindevon on Mon, 14 Aug 2017 11:12
Hi Matthias,
I have a version of XView that has a groundspeed dr. It is xview/groundspeed. I can email the win.xpl if you like.
Mike
Wooow!!
Just got a new PC (I7-8700K @ 5GHZ with all the good stuff in) and had to try X-View with X-Plane 11.
Runs the scenery just as smooth as X-Plane stand alone on my rig with PSX boost server on the same machine (PSX locked at 72hz with NO purple bar at all showing up) X-Plane set to max detail with 4xSSAA Anti-aliasing..
BIG thank you for developing this add-on.
C
Quote from: Kurt on Sun, 11 Mar 2018 22:02
Wooow!!
Just got a new PC (I7-8700K @ 5GHZ with all the good stuff in) and had to try X-View with X-Plane 11.
Runs the scenery just as smooth as X-Plane stand alone on my rig with PSX boost server on the same machine (PSX locked at 72hz with NO purple bar at all showing up) X-Plane set to max detail with 4xSSAA Anti-aliasing..
BIG thank you for developing this add-on.
C
Hello Kurt!
What type you using to the GPU? 1080TI?
Could you tell me your PC specs? :)
Thanks
Best Regards,
Younghoon
Has anyone figured out how to get PSX to display GS in xplane yet?
Hi,
PSX plane seems not to work in X-Plane 11.20, X-plane crashes here on my system.
Any ideas?
Thanks in advance...
Steffen
-->0:08:24.680 D/STM: Transitioning from state state_Normal to state_NormalLoading
G64: 504.588: Calling OnAircraftUnload:(Aircraft/Laminar Research/Cessna 172SP/)
0:08:24.680 I/ACF: Loading airplane number 0 with Aircraft/PSX Plane/747-400 United.acf
G64: 505.406: Aircraft File: (Aircraft/PSX Plane/747-400 United.acf)
G64: 505.433: MD5 Hash: (3634f4d63c5a7e0f43377f21baf01537)
G64: 505.433: Description: (The biggest airliner flying: The mighty 747. This craft was initially designed as a freighter! Not airliner!)
G64: 505.433: Author: (Mohammad Gazzawi / Sergio Santagada / Javier Rollon Jrollon Planes (www.Jrollon.com) v.1.1)
G64: 505.433: Plugin Mode: Community Edition
G64: 505.441: Boot Count: 3
G64: 505.980: Run: OnKickStart..
Fetching plugins for D:\X-Plane 11/Aircraft/PSX Plane/plugins
Warning: D:\X-Plane 11/Aircraft/PSX Plane/plugins/XView/64/win.xpl Signature: XView Michael Bradbury. (A version of this plugin is already loaded.) <---
Ha, found two xview installations on my system. One in the general plugin folder and one in the plugin folder of PSX Plane. Deleted the one in the general folder and it seems to work now...
Best
Steffen
I had PSX and XPlane 11 working very well and without problems for quite some time now..
A couple of days ago I flew from LSZH to KSFO...it took me a couple of days to complete the flight (when I had to go to work, I put PSX on pause).
All went well, except the fact that when I came back from work and exited "pause", I saw in X Plane ( I was in external view and behind the 744) that the plane continued its flight in a nose down attitude....almost vertical nose down, but moving forward.
I noticed that if I put XPlane in pause, the plane would straight back in the correct attitude, so I opted to continue the flight this way...I managed to land correctly in KSFO.
Next time I started PSX and XPlane, it looked like PSX and XPlane are not in sync in regard to the position coords.
At almost any airport/gate, the plane is always in a wrong spot....most of the times inside the gate building...
Anybody has an idea as to why or what cause this problem ?
The only "change" I made between the two flights was updating X-Plane 11 HD Mesh Scenery v3 to version 4.
I reverted back to version 3 but the problem remain, so I dont think its related to this addon.
Exactly the same problem here: it seems the plugin is unable to feed the correct values for aircraft orientation now, probably something has been changed in X-Plane. Too bad.
Andrea
Same same. It happen if we use the PSX747 model. But I found that the problem solved if we use the default XP 11 747 model. I know so that we can't see the landing lights on the runway anymore. But at least we can fly normally.
Quote from: Jack love 744ERF on Wed, 27 Jun 2018 16:40
Same same. It happen if we use the PSX747 model. But I found that the problem solved if we use the default XP 11 747 model. I know so that we can't see the landing lights on the runway anymore. But at least we can fly normally.
Hey, thank you for this solution !
Good to know !
Quote from: Jack love 744ERF on Wed, 27 Jun 2018 16:40
Same same. It happen if we use the PSX747 model. But I found that the problem solved if we use the default XP 11 747 model. I know so that we can't see the landing lights on the runway anymore. But at least we can fly normally.
I am using this model with the latest XP11 and works brilliantly https://www.dropbox.com/sh/a0vsfrs8oo95qtn/AAC_kWeIBa7MQ0dUuH5pIHFla?dl=0
Okay. Will try~ thank you.
For some reason, now it works. I changed: absolutely nothing.
Hi mike,
I won't try to link my PSX with X-Plane 11, i do several recherches, but i can't find X-View, all links seem to be brocken.
Can you please give me a active link to download X-View ?
Thanks in advance and best regards
Eric
Eric,
You can download via my dropbox in this post:
http://aerowinx.com/board/index.php?topic=1615.msg46978#msg46978
Enjoy!
Alex B
Quote from: United744 on Tue, 31 Oct 2017 00:32
There is an oddity though - the 747 in X-Plane has the turn center located behind the aircraft model, which makes taxiing on the ground interesting. Very minor detail.
Hi everyone,
agree on the majority's opinion about the xview plugin - fantastic tool! But the turn center is somewhat bothering.
Anybody have a solution/workaround for this?
Cheers,
Sebastian
Hello,
is it still suitable for XP10? And is there a manual or a guide?
Thanks
Marco
Quote from: asboyd on Sun, 15 Oct 2017 06:10
Still available via my dropbox link:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/j49mprhuqzmh8uf/XView.zip?dl=0
Cheers,
AlexB
Hi
I don't mean to sidetrack this thread but do people use anything other than XView to use XPlane as a scenery generator? I thought I had seen ref to PSNet being used but their website doesn't show any such interface?
Quote from: peb on Tue, 11 Sep 2018 10:49
Hi
I don't mean to sidetrack this thread but do people use anything other than XView to use XPlane as a scenery generator? I thought I had seen ref to PSNet being used but their website doesn't show any such interface?
I do hope Xview is updated or something else better comes along.
Marco,
The version I have works with both. I used the latest version before I purchased XP11.
I now use P3D as I prefer the ORBX scenery for Australia (where I live).
Cheers,
Alex B
Thank you Alex, i made the download 8)
No problems, always glad to help :)
Quote from: Sebastian on Thu, 6 Sep 2018 15:09
Quote from: United744 on Tue, 31 Oct 2017 00:32
There is an oddity though - the 747 in X-Plane has the turn center located behind the aircraft model, which makes taxiing on the ground interesting. Very minor detail.
Hi everyone,
agree on the majority's opinion about the xview plugin - fantastic tool! But the turn center is somewhat bothering.
Anybody have a solution/workaround for this?
Cheers,
Sebastian
I have the same issue too. The turn center on the ground is behind the aircraft and makes the turning hard to be precise. Hope there'll be an solution to this.
Regards,
Chi-cheng Liu
Quote from: asboyd on Sun, 15 Oct 2017 06:10
Still available via my dropbox link:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/j49mprhuqzmh8uf/XView.zip?dl=0
Cheers, AlexB
Hi Alex,
I found a "win0_lights.xpl" in your xview folder in your dropbox. Do you recall what to do with this file?
I did not find any hint in the XView User Guide v1.2.pdf which I downloaded 3 years ago from somewhere.
Regards, Holger
PS. Thanks for hosting the Xview download in your dropbox :)
Hi Holger,
If you are using x-plane 11 you do not need the win0_lights.xpl
It was a fix for the lights in x-plane 10.5 I vaguely remember...
I included it as it was on the web site before it disappeared so I grabbed everything.
Cheers,
Alex B
Quote from: asboyd on Sun, 23 Sep 2018 00:35
Hi Holger,
If you are using x-plane 11 you do not need the win0_lights.xpl
It was a fix for the lights in x-plane 10.5 I vaguely remember...
I included it as it was on the web site before it disappeared so I grabbed everything.
Cheers,
Alex B
Hi Alex,
I am investigating which X-plane version works reasonably well on my Notebook.
Therefore I currently test both demo versions 10.51r2 and 11.26r2.
In 10.51 lights and animations are really eye candy, but I ignored the win0_lights.xpl so far. Do you recall what should be done with this file?
Primarily I need a scenery during taxi, long term I would like to fly again a bit in VATSIM or IVAO, which I did last w. PS1.3.
I use a single Notebook (i7 @ 2.8 GHz, 16GB RAM, AMD FirePro M5100 @ 1.1 GHz w. 2 GB RAM integrated graphic card).
And normally I run 2 instances of PSX (server+client).
So far both X-plane versions run OK with PSX-Boost running.
X-plane 11.26 w. default settings: I saw temporary PSX FPS drops down to 40 and I got X-plane warnings that graphics settings need to be adapted.
X-plane 10.51 w. default settings: Quite smooth.
But I did not yet compare the X-plane FPS in detail with both comfigurations.
Best regards, Holger
P.S.
If you want to add the "XView User Guide v1.2.pdf" to your Xview archive, see:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/9q5aliccanzno8z/XView%20User%20Guide%20v1.2.pdf?dl=0
To use the modded file simply rename it win.xpl and replace the one in the X-Plane Folder/resources/plugins/Xview/64 folder.
That is it.
I downloaded the 1.2 version of the manual but forgot to update the dropbox file.... DUH!
Cheers,
Alex B
Dropbox file updated to include manual..
Link provided here again just in case: https://www.dropbox.com/s/j49mprhuqzmh8uf/XView.zip?dl=0
Cheers,
Alex B
Is it really so that the extrapolation feature does not work with XP11? This feature was important as it added the last bit of smoothness to make everything butter smooth. I've been away from the sim quite some time, it seems the development of this plugin has stopped? :(
Quote from: VolleyballCALVA on Sat, 22 Sep 2018 19:09
Quote from: Sebastian on Thu, 6 Sep 2018 15:09
Quote from: United744 on Tue, 31 Oct 2017 00:32
There is an oddity though - the 747 in X-Plane has the turn center located behind the aircraft model, which makes taxiing on the ground interesting. Very minor detail.
Hi everyone,
agree on the majority's opinion about the xview plugin - fantastic tool! But the turn center is somewhat bothering.
Anybody have a solution/workaround for this?
Cheers,
Sebastian
I have the same issue too. The turn center on the ground is behind the aircraft and makes the turning hard to be precise. Hope there'll be an solution to this.
Regards,
Chi-cheng Liu
I thought this was just my band taxiing, glad to know its not me! Hope this gets fixed.
Quote from: mikeindevon on Thu, 14 Sep 2017 15:46
There is some good news on the problem of supplying groundspeed and other data to X-Plane to assist with interfacing to virtual airlines. I have filed bug reports to LR about this over several years and never had a reply. But today I posted a comment on Ben's blog and got a favourable response. (http://developer.x-plane.com/author/bsupnik/).
Was any progress made on this issue?
Hello everyone,
Has anyone got a british airways livery that they would share with me for xp11.
I am not good with repaints of the net, I don't want to tamper with the xview psx plane that is working, but don't want the American airways livery.
can anyone zip me up a working xview ba plane??
thanks steve
Please be aware that Mike has stopped development on this add-on. The version on my dropbox was the last one published and so far nothing new has been provided.
Mike may provide something if he ever gets a chance but sometimes life gets in the way of all things.....
Best regards,
Many thanks for letting me know this.
Kind Regards
Steve.
Just to know, anybody still use XView successfully ?
Which plane you use on XPlane ? PSX Plane or the default X Plane 11 B744 ?
I stil have problems... I use the PSX Plane but when taxiing on an airfield, instead of going forward the plane (XPlane) go backward...
That's a pity..
Would like to know what settings you guys use on the plugin...
Maybe I have some setting wrong..
Any help is appreciated.
Thanks
Quote from: Swiso on Fri, 7 Dec 2018 14:04
Just to know, anybody still use XView successfully ?
Which plane you use on XPlane ? PSX Plane or the default X Plane 11 B744 ?
I stil have problems... I use the PSX Plane but when taxiing on an airfield, instead of going forward the plane (XPlane) go backward...
That's a pity..
Would like to know what settings you guys use on the plugin...
Maybe I have some setting wrong..
Any help is appreciated.
Thanks
Both, PSX Plane and default XP11 - and successfully so (despite the turn radius on taxi thing)!
Your description is quite familiar.
How do you setup your flight? Do you set a gate/parking position in PSX? Did you check the plane orientation in any outside view of XP? Does the XP orientation match the PSX orientation?
If I choose a gate position and then start XP, I'll run into a similar issue with the actual XP orientation sideways or opposite. Instead, whenever I want to start a completely new flight at a different location I choose a RWY position in PSX, then start XP. Somehow there PSX and XP are properly aligned. Then I do a quick taxi to the gate of my choice and set the panel state that i want. From there on I start my actual flight preparation. It's a 5-minute workaround. Most of the times I just continue from where I've left off before, and in XP I choose resume last flight, so I don't run into that situation to begin with.
But whenever I start from somewhere else and I follow that procedure, it works flawlessly.
I never dug in to figure out where it comes from or why.
My settings in the plugin are - if I remember correctly - just as described in the manual.
Hope this helps...
Regards,
Sebastian
Hi,
I use the PSX 747 delivered with Xview without problems.
My xview.cfg here as shown. Your IP adresses should be set to your boost server PC and probably are different to mine shown below. I remember, that somewhere in the past there were issues with the interpolation setting. It is recommended to have this unchecked. But in my setup there is no difference between on and off.
HEADER = "XView Configuration File Thu Dec 06 19:48:47 2018"
SETTINGS_PATH = ""
BOOST_ADDRESS = "192.168.178.32 : 10749" ; IP address
MAIN_ADDRESS = "192.168.178.32 : 10747" ; IP address
RELAY_ADDRESS = "127.0.0.1 : 10740" ; IP address
RELAY_BOOST_DATA = FALSE ; Set to true if XView relays boost data
SMOOTH_TRAJECTORY = FALSE ; Extrapolate between PSX updates (default: FALSE)
DO_ANIMATIONS = TRUE ; Animate external parts, eg gear, etc(default: TRUE)
DO_LIGHTS = TRUE ; Animate lights (default: TRUE)
DO_WEATHER = FALSE ; Set true if PSX sets X-Plane weather
DO_COMMS = TRUE ; Set true if PSX sets X-Plane comms
DO_TIME = TRUE ; Set true if PSX sets X-Plane time
SIDE_VIEWS = FALSE ; Set TRUE to allow PSX to set X-Plane view angle
USE_BOOST_SERVER = TRUE ; Set to TRUE to use Boost server - the normal setting
PSX_TRAFFIC = 4 ; Set to the number of traffic planes you want driven by PSX (max 7)
USE_PSX_TRAFFIC = FALSE ; Set true if PSX drives the traffic aircraft
USE_XP_TRAFFIC = TRUE ; Set true if XP drives the traffic aircraft
INJECT_ELEVATION = TRUE ; Set to true to send scenery elevation to Main server
Have you checked your views in X-plane? "W" Button should bring you in the left seat with view ahaed.
Hope this helps
Peter
Thank you very much !
When back home I will try your suggestions.
Let's hope it will work!
Thank you.
Here I am...
Today I tried a couple of times... as suggested by Sebastian and a "normal" way ( setting airport/gate in PSX) and then loading in this order:
BACARS
PSX.NET
XP 11
Both times the plane was on right spot and taxiing around the airfield was correct...
I really don't know why, suddenly, right now it work...
Here is my XView.cfg :
HEADER = "XView Configuration File Sat Dec 8 17:44:08 2018"
SETTINGS_PATH = ""
BOOST_ADDRESS = "192.168.8.23 : 10749" ; IP address
MAIN_ADDRESS = "192.168.8.23 : 10747" ; IP address
RELAY_ADDRESS = "127.0.0.1 : 10740" ; IP address
RELAY_BOOST_DATA = FALSE ; Set to true if XView relays boost data
SMOOTH_TRAJECTORY = FALSE ; Extrapolate between PSX updates (default: FALSE)
DO_ANIMATIONS = TRUE ; Animate external parts, eg gear, etc(default: TRUE)
DO_LIGHTS = TRUE ; Animate lights (default: TRUE)
DO_WEATHER = FALSE ; Set true if PSX sets X-Plane weather
DO_COMMS = TRUE ; Set true if PSX sets X-Plane comms
DO_TIME = TRUE ; Set true if PSX sets X-Plane time
SIDE_VIEWS = FALSE ; Set TRUE to allow PSX to set X-Plane view angle
USE_BOOST_SERVER = TRUE ; Set to TRUE to use Boost server - the normal setting
PSX_TRAFFIC = 3 ; Set to the number of traffic planes you want driven by PSX (max 7)
USE_PSX_TRAFFIC = FALSE ; Set true if PSX drives the traffic aircraft
USE_XP_TRAFFIC = TRUE ; Set true if XP drives the traffic aircraft
INJECT_ELEVATION = TRUE ; Set to true to send scenery elevation to Main server
I tried both BOOST and MAIN server with default IP address ( since I run PSX and XP11 on same PC and 1 display only) : 127.0.0.1 instead of 192.168.8.23 and it work withuout problem too...
Tried only with PSX plane..
But so far so good.
Thats really strange, but thanks god right now it work !
Thank you very much for the suggestions !
Quote from: 18hazelwood on Sun, 11 Nov 2018 19:02
Hello everyone,
Has anyone got a british airways livery that they would share with me for xp11.
I am not good with repaints of the net, I don't want to tamper with the xview psx plane that is working, but don't want the American airways livery.
can anyone zip me up a working xview ba plane??
thanks steve
Steve, look here : https://forums.x-plane.org/index.php?/files/category/2-aircraft-skins-liveries/
In particular:
https://forums.x-plane.org/index.php?/files/file/15660-default-xp10-b747-british-airways-oneworld/
https://forums.x-plane.org/index.php?/files/file/35472-british-airways-747-default-xp11/
https://forums.x-plane.org/index.php?/files/file/44013-british-airways-landor-default-xp10xp11-747-400/
https://forums.x-plane.org/index.php?/files/file/19725-british-airways-for-javier-rollons-747-400/
https://forums.x-plane.org/index.php?/files/file/15431-british-airways-freight-for-747-400-xp10-fictional/
Installing them could be a little tricky...if you want, contact me (click the letter sign below the picture in my profile) and I can send you what you need.
Is xView working successfully with XP11.30 / XP11.31?
I dont want to upgrade from XP11.26 and find I cant turn back if xView isnt working.
As this add-on isnt being developed anymore, I've been thinking about putting a job advert on freelancer.com for someone to update it.
Quote from: GodAtum on Wed, 20 Feb 2019 11:30
As this add-on isnt being developed anymore, I've been thinking about putting a job advert on freelancer.com for someone to update it.
Make it a AeroflyFS2 or even Flight Gear port too :-)
Godatum,
Well I did install x-plane yesterday to do some development for new VATSIM voice... I have to say its not as feral as I first thought.
Who knows once voice is out Mark Barnes and I might find a new project.
Cheers
G
Quote from: Hammerstan on Wed, 20 Feb 2019 09:49
Is xView working successfully with XP11.30 / XP11.31?
I dont want to upgrade from XP11.26 and find I cant turn back if xView isnt working.
Like you I was a bit leery of updating so made a copy of the XPlane11 folder and used the installer to update one of them to v11.30. If you have the room, it's the way to go. I didn't do it for Xview reasons, though. I never was happy with Xview - I kept having issues with the plane being wildly unstable just sitting on the ground. I found P3D to work better for me.
Randy
Quote from: Gary Oliver on Wed, 20 Feb 2019 20:06
Godatum,
Well I did install x-plane yesterday to do some development for new VATSIM voice... I have to say its not as feral as I first thought.
Who knows once voice is out Mark Barnes and I might find a new project.
Cheers
G
Nice, looking forward to Vatsim Voice :) The problem people have with Xview/XP11 is that it reports speed and altitude incorrectly to xsquawkbox.
X-plane is the future Gary!
Toga,
We will have to respectfully agree to disagree there :-)
Cheers
G
FWIW I concur- LM's stapler budget is bigger than Austin's annual revenues (a bit of literary license). In addition, several nations militaries are using P3D for training scenarios. I believe development will continue...
I am always surprised by the fervor of XPL fans... I subscribe to the "sim whatever way works for you" mentality....
C
I find it hard to believe militaries use P3D for anything more than CBT.
Quote from: Toga on Thu, 21 Feb 2019 20:55
I find it hard to believe militaries use P3D for anything more than CBT.
What is your abbreviation of CBT?
I can
assure you (from personal experience) it is a very effective way of teaching the
procedural concepts behind the command & control difficulties of operating in a high intensity 'warfighting' environment.
It is an essential but very cost effective step on the cumulative training ladder towards large scale exercises utilising all the equipment in real time.
https://www.itec.co.uk/exhibitor-press-releases/lockheed-martin-receives-two-year-combined-arms-tactical-trainer-interim-support-contract
Its like a gigantic simulator for large military formations.
When referring to either P3D or X-Plane as "scenery browsers" for PSX, I believe XP can do a better job, for less money, given the very acceptable default database of airports all around the World, specially with their slopped runways and taxyways if you enable "runway follows terrain contours!"....
Weather depiction though looks better for me in FSX / P3D, and that's an important feature too.
And there's also two other aspects, at least, P3D does better - The Moon and a much more precise daylight depiction according to date and place on Earth...
But that's all history for me :-)
Its a horses for courses choice.
I am a p3D user ... but very interested in what X-Plane has to offer. Once my scenery generator has had a major hardware upgrade I might take the plunge.
One day Hardy will announce: Moon & Sun for PSX...
And RLS update !
IMO i don't mind which sim i use ... but XP11 runs at a smooth 60 fps for me, while P3D anywhere between 20-35.
I have tried both and I like more X-plane....it run smoother than P3D, it has slopes runways, it has a big community that provide tons of lovely free add-ons...
With the Vulkan engine development, X-plane will be the first sim to fully utilize the many CPU cores of your Pc's...
Don't know yet if already implemented (even in part) on 11.30...
I'm failing to read the bit where it explains its run on P3D software. If you think militaries are getting their guys in the default F16 on P3D and running training scenarios, you are mistaken.
Quote from: Toga on Fri, 22 Feb 2019 12:59
I'm failing to read the bit where it explains its run on P3D software. If you think militaries are getting their guys in the default F16 on P3D and running training scenarios, you are mistaken.
I did not say that.
Please do not attempt to misquote or patronise me.
Clearly flight simulators for real world aircraft - whether military or civilian utilise much more complex & hi fidelity graphical software programmes to enable visual simulation than a software programme like p3D. LM are one of several companies who are producers of such hi fidelity software.
Lockheed Martin do not just build military aircraft, military flight simulators or civilian flight simulation software.
I was simply illustrating the point that the product that is sold to the civilian market place for flight simulation - called p3D - is part of a larger product range available to Armed Forces around the globe that enables them to train in a simulated environment before going out into the field to exercise in real time on the equipment that they will operate when they fight.
The opportunity to train in such a simulated environment allows large combined arms military formations to conduct complicated mission scenarios in a simulated land environment without the huge cost impact of vehicle maintenance, ammunition expenditure & fuel costs amongst a myriad of other expense.
Indeed it is fortunate that LM decided to take Microsoft's Flight Simulation 10 & use that as the basis of one of their military simulation environments since the spin off for flight simulation enthusiasts has been a completely redesigned Flight Simulation software programme which continues to receive technical support from LM.
Regards
(caveat: I have NOTHING to do with L-M or any of the mil stuff, I'm 100% civillian)
In many cases nowadays, the part of "you in the system" is at least as difficult to get right as "you in the airplane". It definitely makes a lot of sense to use a herd of small, simple sims that assume the "you in the airplane" part is already firmly present in a pilot's brain, to get him/her quickly in a piece of virtual airspace, and then focus on "you in the system."
Imagine doing your first all-out confrontation with KNYC ATC in a simplified aircraft instead of in a full level-6 sim. You will be very grateful. The L-M derivatives may function as the same simplified aircraft: it does vly enough to make you move your blip around the virtual airspace, but the real purpose of the training is to get your brain to become part of the system, and to get the system to experience more realistic scenarios than just simulated blips driven by robots.
I know for a fact that Dutch ATC has trainers for the controllers that can run either prerecorded scenarios, or bots, or a mix, or add simulators to the mix with real pilots vlying the blips. The word blip driver was used for this kind of operation. One pilot can drive several blips -- and I can imagine using a P3D derivative for this, which probably is cheaper than any home-brew option.
Lastly, I'm pretty sure that P3D-derivatives are useful to play back recorded flights of fighter jets to have a cheap all-points-of-view display.
Hoppie
Hi guys!
I just purchased X-Plane 11 as a scenery-generator for PSX. Everything is working perfect so far. I'm using both progys on one PC. Unfortunately there seems to be one issue with the windows size of XP. Even in the windowed mode it is too big for running both simulators on one screen. How did you set XP up work together with PSX?
Many thanks in advance for any help!
Peter
Hello Peter,
I usually set XP 11 on top half of screen and PSX the bottom half...
When you start XP 11, when you see the main menu, just re-size the window dimension of that program to the top half of the screen.
Then start PSX and re-size the some soon of PSX to the bottom half.... basically I see only the PFD a d MCP on PSX.
I'll take some pictures and post it here....
https://www.dropbox.com/s/9vd291lzvk9sosq/20190302_161536.jpg?dl=0
https://www.dropbox.com/s/4ik4ryxbtuhsw1x/20190302_161613.jpg?dl=0
Hi Swiso!
Thank you so much, this is a great idea. Unfortunately my XP-window uses around 75% of the upper half of my monitor. And I can't shrink it anymore. So there is not much place left for PSX. :o
https://www.dropbox.com/s/fi2rvskequwrd2b/Bild1.png?dl=0 (https://www.dropbox.com/s/fi2rvskequwrd2b/Bild1.png?dl=0)
Never had such a strange behaviour of any progy before.
Hi Peter,
Strange...are you sure that you run XP11 in windowed mode ?
How big is your display?
Mine is a 30 inch 2560x1600....and I have no problem setting these two programs on my display.
Try with mouse to re-size the window of XP11...
If don't work, I guess best bet is to ask for help here :
https://forums.x-plane.org/index.php?/forums/
Hi Swiso!
My monitor has a resolution of 1920 x 1080.
I tried to resize the XP window with the mouse, but it doesnt work.
I will ask the guys from XPlane!
Many thanks again for your kind help!
Cheers,
Peter
No problem mate !
Let us know if you find a way.
All the best.
Confirmed that indeed it was never possible to resize the window of XP10 / 11 to, say, half screen... Instead I had to make the PSX window, in one of the layouts, small enough to fit the bottom of the screen bellow it...
Hi jcomm!
Quote from: jcomm on Sun, 3 Mar 2019 13:33
Confirmed that indeed it was never possible to resize the window of XP10 / 11 to, say, half screen... Instead I had to make the PSX window, in one of the layouts, small enough to fit the bottom of the screen bellow it...
Thank you very much, that helps indeed 8)
Cheers,
Peter
Hello everyone,
I cannot connect to ftp server of 1st page of the thread, receiving failed login.
Is it still possible to get xview and try it with the demo version of Xplane 11?
Thank you.
G
Quote from: Gauthier on Tue, 5 Mar 2019 00:56
Hello everyone,
I cannot connect to ftp server of 1st page of the thread, receiving failed login.
Is it still possible to get xview and try it with the demo version of Xplane 11?
Thank you.
G
Hi, check post #535 at page 27.... there is a link where you can download it.
Thank you very much.
Success to download!
I'm going to try today and will report.
G
Quote from: jcomm on Sun, 3 Mar 2019 13:33
Confirmed that indeed it was never possible to resize the window of XP10 / 11 to, say, half screen... Instead I had to make the PSX window, in one of the layouts, small enough to fit the bottom of the screen bellow it...
Hmmm, not sure that's necessary as long as the PSX window is on top. Then adjust the X-plane view (eye position and FOV) to your liking. :)
Randy
Hello,
it seems all is working very well...
For best results, I set up with 2 PC.
Only problem happens when I desire to fly with Xplane alone.
No keyboard commands seem to be transmitted to the plane.
I tried to deactivate XView in plug-in menu, but the result is the same and the only solution seems to delete xview folder from the plug-in folder and all become as before.
Is there another way?
In any case, thank you to the developper and above all to HH.
G
Not an x-plane ist but...
I hear if you put the plugin inside the aircrafts plugin folder rather than the main one, it only runs when you have the 747 active.
Cheers
G
Quote from: Gary Oliver on Wed, 6 Mar 2019 11:32
Not an x-plane ist but...
I hear if you put the plugin inside the aircrafts plugin folder rather than the main one, it only runs when you have the 747 active.
Cheers
G
I can confirm this is true. I just leave xview in the plugins folder of the aircraft using it.
Is there any known effort for a new xview Version for PSX and XP11?
Someone mentioned a while ago to think about opening a request on a programmer platform.
Thank you all
Christian
Is there still no way to use x-plane as a scenery generator with the ability of 3rd party softwares (IVAO, VATSIM etc) able to read altitude and gs data?
Hello everyone,
I am coming late to the game for XView mode. I have searched all 34 pages of this thread and found varying links to the download. The http://www.larkshayes.com/ website appears like it doesn't work any more. I have downloaded the files from Alex B.'s DropBox folder (thanks Alex for hosting these files); however, I am not certain that these are the most current.
Mike D. has not posted in some time.
First, is the http://www.larkshayes.com/ link active any more? If not, what is the "official" source for the XView program and users guide.
Second, is the XView program still being updated to stay current with PSX? If not, then I may move directly to P3D for scenery insertion.
Thanks,
Richard Boll
Wichita KS
Alex's files are the most current.
I've seen a few mentions some months ago about the author being working on an update for XP11, but no release yet.
This XView is still usable with XP11, at least the last time I used XP some 3 months ago.
It's still, IMO, the best visuals coupling for PSX.
Thanks Jcomm!
I'm going to give it a try!
Rich
The XP 747 can be also used to place the plugin inside it's folder, instead of on the default general plugins folder of the XP 11 install.
This way the XView plugin only get's active when you load that 747, which is good if you also use XP 11 as a flight simulator and not only as a PSX Visuals Simulator.
Hey guys.
Would like to try using the XP11 with PSX as well. Where can I find alex's dropbox link?
Quote from: Gilad - CAL Cargo on Sat, 15 Jun 2019 11:51
Hey guys.
Would like to try using the XP11 with PSX as well. Where can I find alex's dropbox link?
http://aerowinx.com/board/index.php?topic=1615.msg46978#msg46978 (http://aerowinx.com/board/index.php?topic=1615.msg46978#msg46978)
Randy
Thanks!
I have finally got to a point with PSX working well with XP11 + Ortho4XP scenery in a full sized sim
Some VODs on my twitch.tv/hammerstan (http://twitch.tv/hammerstan)
YPPH to YBCS https://www.twitch.tv/videos/424295655 (https://www.twitch.tv/videos/424295655)
Short video of approach into FACT https://www.twitch.tv/videos/436513425 (https://www.twitch.tv/videos/436513425)
Quote from: Hammerstan on Sat, 22 Jun 2019 01:19
I have finally got to a point with PSX working well with XP11 + Ortho4XP scenery in a full sized sim
Some VODs on my twitch.tv/hammerstan (http://twitch.tv/hammerstan)
YPPH to YBCS https://www.twitch.tv/videos/424295655 (https://www.twitch.tv/videos/424295655)
Short video of approach into FACT https://www.twitch.tv/videos/436513425 (https://www.twitch.tv/videos/436513425)
Amazing ... my issue with the Xview is that it doesn't report speed and altitude properly to online clients.
Hello,
Is possible get the xpl 32 bits? My computer is slowly and need to use with XPlane 9
Thank you a lot!
Is this what you are looking for?
https://www.x-plane.com/desktop/try-it/older/ (https://www.x-plane.com/desktop/try-it/older/)
Randy
Dear all,
I have decided to purchase X-Plane for two reasons. One was to try to use ZIBO mod (B737 - freeware addon that his quite good) and most importantly to use it as scenery generator for PSX.
Coming from P3D/FSX, I have to say that I am quite impressed by the X-Plane. Sloping runways, visuals, handling, and ease of use are very good. It is quite hard to go back to P3D (PMDG and Majestic products).
Nonetheless, I would like to ask those that have successfully installed the XView, if my procedure is correct.
I have downloaded the XView and PSX Plane.
The PSX Plane is in the following directory:
X-Plane 11\Aircraft\Extra Aircraft
I have also placed the XView into:
X-Plane 11\Aircraft\Extra Aircraft\PSX Plane\plugins
Finally, I have placed following files into main X-Plane directory:
XView CFG
XView Debug.txt
XViewLog.txt
Once I start X-Plane, should I load C172 first and then PSX Plane? And final question, how do I "start" XView? Via Plugins selector?
Thank for your help!
Cheers,
Andrej
Andrej,
you did the right placing of the various components, as far as I can recall.
XView should start whenever you:
1) Have started PSX with the Main and Boost servers up;
2) You have then started XP11, and picked the XView 744, which will activate the plugin you placed inside it's plugins folder, and not on the main XP11 plugins folder - this is the correct procedure if you just want to start XView when you pick that aircraft;
You do not need to start with any other airplane. Start with the XView 744.
I don't recall how I used to get the best results when using PSX and XP. I somehow recall that starting PSX and placing your aircraft where you want it is the best choice, and then, with PSX running and visuals required, start XP. I used to do it just before pushback, then turn XP off after initial level, and restart it back at TOD.
XP and PSX have a problem, both... They do not correctly show the proper lighting based on geographical position and date. Sometimes it's pitch dark on both XP and PSX when there's still a lot of daylight IRL... FSX and P3D do a much better job, not to mention that they have precise Moon phase and ephmeris...
You do have to at least edit the "xview.cfg" in the main XP11 folder to set your preferences ( avoid the interpolation function in XP11 ) and the IP address, which can be set to 127.0.0.1 if you're using all in the same PC.
Dear jcomm,
thank you for your response. I started PSX and placed loaded it with my default setup (EDDK, cold and dark).
Then I loaded X-Plane. The X-Plane took some time, and when it loaded, following occurred:
- The plane is doing 360* flips, in a middle of the ocean
- Frame rates (Boost): are about 7, going down to 1
- eventually, plane is in a space
It is strange as I have done everything as stated and my preferences follow my internal setup.
It does not matter if my IP is selected as 127.0.0.1 or 192.168.1.104 (host address data from the Instructor's window).
I have not given up on this, yet.
Cheers,
Hmm,
strange, and since I don't have XP installed I can't even try it :-(
Anyway, regarding the starting situation being "in water" it might be due to the fact that you did not load scenery tiles for that area. When you install XP11 you can choose to install only partially the World Scenery, by regions like Europe, Africa, Asia, Australia, Siuth-Center and North Americas...
Are you sure you installed Europe?
Do you have the XView Manual v1.2 ?
I am using PSX with XPlane 11 and Xview on the same computer. I have to use the XP10 PSX 747 supplied with Xview (I tried hard to use the XP11 747 but there are too many problems). Xview is installed in plugins folder for the PSX 747 so it is only active when the 747 is in use.
To run it all, first start PSX making sure the Boost server is On. Then start XPlane with PSX 747 and check in the Xview Settings window that it is connected to PSX especially the Boost server. Eventually XPlane places the 747, sets the weather, etc as set in PSX. In fact I do exactly as described in the Xview manual.
This all works fine as long as the above sequence is followed exactly. If not there can be weird effects such as spinning 747, etc. Hope that helps.
Hello Peb and jcomm,
thanks for your responses.
I have re-read the manual and I am doing something wrong, however I do not know what. I will have to look at it again.
However, just in case I am missing something obvious, I am attaching following:
This is my X-Plane core folder:
(https://imgur.com/9Qnm3Ku.png)
This is plane PSX Plane folder:
(https://imgur.com/28HBEyQ.png)
This is how my XView 64 folder looks like:
(https://imgur.com/ZbOt21Y.png)
And this is my plane selection in the XPlane:
(https://imgur.com/etOLrkr.png)
Finally, my XView cfg file:
(https://imgur.com/nb3rdgi.png)
Does this look OK?
Thanks!
I'll check properly tomorrow. Does the Xview log file give you any clues as to any comms problems. Are the server address ports correct as per Xview manual? Are both PSX and Xplane both on the same computer?
andrej,
that
SETTINGS PATH=""
should look like:
SETTINGS PATH="D:\X-Plane 11"
Try that ...
Andrej,
I sent you a link of my dropbox, so you can download my PSX plane folder+Xview folder and XView.cfg.
On My PC it work with X Plane 11.35.
EDIT: it goes without saying it that you need to edit the Xview.cfg values to reflect your install. ( see previous post above).
I am not sure that your XView.cfg file is correct. If you look at the User Guide the Addresses need to be set up correctly particularly the Ports ie Boost 10749, Main 10747, Relay 10740. My PSX/XP set up is on the same machine so my IP addresses are all 127.0.0.1 and I have Relay Boost set to FALSE since I don't need it. Also I have left the Setting Path blank so that it defaults to place the XView.cfg file in the X Plane folder.
So firstly make sure that the BOTH servers are ON in PSX. In XP look at the XView plugin Settings window to make sure that the ports and addresses are correct and if so that the Connection Status green lights show that you are connected.
If not then it is a comms problem, if they are then the problem lies somewhere in XP and/or the PSX plane - you MUST use this one.
Good luck
Dear peb, jcomm, and Aris,
thank you all for helping me out. If I say that I was 100% sure that I saved the cfg file with the path you will not believe me. Thanks for the extra set of eyes.
Aris, I have downloaded your file from the Dropbox, so you may delete it. Thanks a lot!
And the good news that it works! Amazing! :)
Cheers,
Quote from: GodAtum on Sun, 7 Jul 2019 12:52
my issue with the Xview is that it doesn't report speed and altitude properly to online clients.
This is now solved with the new AFV Standalone Client - refer http://aerowinx.com/board/index.php?topic=5419.msg58353#msg58353 (http://aerowinx.com/board/index.php?topic=5419.msg58353#msg58353)
Finally, I got Xview working. Here are my learnings for the benefit of anyone interested.
For the PSX to work seemlessly with X Plane, I had to "PAUSE" the simulator in the native X-Plane platform. It was a breeze. Is this the same as "disabling flight model?" (See reply #22, in this discussion thread)
Have an additional question (I posted this question on the x plane forum and didn't get an answer so far) :
I am running PSX and X-Plane11 on my PC and use my Samsung 27" monitor to split the screens between X Plane and PSX. However I am not able to reduce the Xplane window beyond a certain limit. Is there a work around for this? For example lets say, my monitor size is 18" (tall) and 22" (wide), I wanted to have two windows of 9"X22" each. So that I can view the panels of PSX in the lower window and the scenery in the top window of XPlane.
I changed the setting to WINDOWED SIMULATOR (in X Plane) and tried stretching the lower bottom corner of the X plane window (in order to adjust the height), but wasn't able to shrink below a certain limit... Anyone have similar experiences and how you overcame it? Is it also possible to hide the top bar (where you have buttons to minimize, maximize and close) of PSX window? Like how you can hide the taskbar (in windows) and the dock (in mac).
Looking forward to hearing your experiences...
No, there's no waorkaround for that.
I used to use Always On Top, to make the PSX window the "dominant" one. Also used to turn OFF sound in XP in order to not interfere with the PSX sounds.
Running the whole solution in two ( or more ) monitors is even better. Multi PC - Perfect!
I do the same as JComm.
In windowed mode, make XPlane window as small as poss vertically, expand the window horizontally and move the window to the top of the screen.
Start PSX and using Always On Top make the PSX window always display in front of all other windows, including XPlane. You will then need to create the appropriate PSX view to sit in front of XPlane (eg LH pilot view).
The beauty of this method is that even if you move the cursor/focus onto the XPlane window you will not lose or cover up the PSX window. In my setup I try to avoid clicking on the XPlane window by using key definitions and assigning Yoke/Joystick buttons to handle most of the commonly used functions.
Quote from: peb on Sun, 6 Oct 2019 14:23
I do the same as JComm.
In windowed mode, make XPlane window as small as poss vertically, expand the window horizontally and move the window to the top of the screen.
Start PSX and using Always On Top make the PSX window always display in front of all other windows, including XPlane. You will then need to create the appropriate PSX view to sit in front of XPlane (eg LH pilot view).
The beauty of this method is that even if you move the cursor/focus onto the XPlane window you will not lose or cover up the PSX window. In my setup I try to avoid clicking on the XPlane window by using key definitions and assigning Yoke/Joystick buttons to handle most of the commonly used functions.
Quote from: jcomm on Sun, 6 Oct 2019 13:55
No, there's no waorkaround for that.
I used to use Always On Top, to make the PSX window the "dominant" one. Also used to turn OFF sound in XP in order to not interfere with the PSX sounds.
Running the whole solution in two ( or more ) monitors is even better. Multi PC - Perfect!
Thank you both for sharing your experiences. I will have to make the PSX the dominant one. Is there a dataref in X Plane you toggle also along with muting the audio? I tried with toggling dataref for "planepath" from "0" to "1", seem to work..
Alternately I tried pausing the native X plane sim after loading the PSX plane (without meddling with the datarefs) while PSX/Xview was running. This seemed to work well too..
Hi everybody!
I start again to learn PSX after some years and i have a little problem with xview.
First I launch PSX then load a situation. then I start XPLANE 11. The communication is OK except the fact that wheels are not touching the ground. looks like airplane is floating 1 meter behind the runway.
All other things are ok (n it is very nice!)
My config file:
HEADER = "XView Configuration File Tue Oct 15 20:16:22 2019"
SETTINGS_PATH = ""
BOOST_ADDRESS = "127.0.0.1 : 10749" ; IP address
MAIN_ADDRESS = "127.0.0.1 : 10747" ; IP address
RELAY_ADDRESS = "127.0.0.1 : 10740" ; IP address
RELAY_BOOST_DATA = FALSE ; Set to true if XView relays boost data
SMOOTH_TRAJECTORY = FALSE ; Extrapolate between PSX updates (default: FALSE)
DO_ANIMATIONS = TRUE ; Animate external parts, eg gear, etc(default: TRUE)
DO_LIGHTS = TRUE ; Animate lights (default: TRUE)
DO_WEATHER = TRUE ; Set true if PSX sets X-Plane weather
DO_COMMS = TRUE ; Set true if PSX sets X-Plane comms
DO_TIME = TRUE ; Set true if PSX sets X-Plane time
SIDE_VIEWS = TRUE ; Set TRUE to allow PSX to set X-Plane view angle
USE_BOOST_SERVER = TRUE ; Set to TRUE to use Boost server - the normal setting
PSX_TRAFFIC = 1 ; Set to the number of traffic planes you want driven by PSX (max 7)
USE_PSX_TRAFFIC = TRUE ; Set true if PSX drives the traffic aircraft
USE_XP_TRAFFIC = FALSE ; Set true if XP drives the traffic aircraft
INJECT_ELEVATION = TRUE ; Set to true to send scenery elevation to Main server
I searched through the forum but did not see anything like that
thx Inshibaya
Hello Inshibaya,
not sure if it makes any difference, but I have noticed your SETTINGS_PATH = "" is empty.
As I was very nicely informed by jcomm the path:
should look like:
SETTINGS PATH="D:\X-Plane 11"
Can that have any impact on your experience?
Cheers,
First of all, thank you so much to help me !
I saw your porevious post and i try to put the folder (same as u btw) but with no change.
I reinstall Xview and the PSX plane. I use the version 1.2 which I had store few months ago.
I continue to search and if I found something i will put the solution in the forum.
Thanks again.
BR
Inshibaya
Hi,
Trying to get xview running on macOs and there are old references in the forum to a "mac.xpl" file to be found on the original ftp-site. Since that is no longer available, does anyone know where it can be found? Or is there another way to do it on macOs?
Br,
Andreas
Hi Andreas,
I have a copy of that file.
Contact me at aris at ticino dot com
Regards
Hi all,
I have also decided to test X-plane (I was just curious about this platform in general) and hooked it up with PSX.
It works fine, many thanks for this nice tool.
There's just a small issue:
the taxi and landing lights don't work in X-Plane. When I switch them on in PSX, they illuminate the ground in X-plane, but only for a fraction of a second. Then they are turned off again.
Has anyone noticed this and found a solution?
Best regards,
Dirk
Dirk, my landing lights work fine without the problems you mentioned. Did you change anything in View?
I thought I would revisit the x-plane demo with my newly setup computer.
The computer is a 2010 Macpro 5,1 upgraded with the following specs,
2x 6 core 3.46 Xeon CPU (12 core total)
64 GB of ram 8gb x 8 slots
AMD Radeon Nitro Rx590 8gb GPU
Intel 1.2 TB U.2. PCI SSD (macOS Mojave)
OWC Mercury 1.0 TB SSD (Windows 10)
When I start and run x-plane 11 with all graphic settings set to minimum I get 16 fps?
I run P3D on the same computer and with all sliders to max I get a steady 30 fps!
Any suggestions or opinions please.
John
Quote from: JohnH on Wed, 4 Mar 2020 18:54
When I start and run x-plane 11 with all graphic settings set to minimum I get 16 fps?
I run P3D on the same computer and with all sliders to max I get a steady 30 fps!
Any suggestions or opinions please.
John
Depends...
if you run it from Win, make sure you disable
threaded optimization in the GPU settings - at least that's possible with Nvidia GPUs - not your case I know, but maybe there's something similar in the AMDs too ( ? ).
I really don't know if the same applies to macOS though.
Thanks, from more research it looks like the problem with AMD gpu's is they do not fully support OpenGl like the Nvidia cards do. Apparently in the near future X-plane (v 11.5) will be switching to Vulcan Api, which should help out the AMD cards?
John
Quote from: JohnH on Wed, 4 Mar 2020 21:08
Thanks, from more research it looks like the problem with AMD gpu's is they do not fully support OpenGl like the Nvidia cards do. Apparently in the near future X-plane (v 11.5) will be switching to Vulcan Api, which should help out the AMD cards?
John
That's correct - a few friends are desperately waiting for 11.50 to get released exactly because of that...
Open-GL and AMD were never a good combination :-/
Quote from: Ton van Bochove on Wed, 4 Mar 2020 13:23
Dirk, my landing lights work fine without the problems you mentioned. Did you change anything in View?
Hi Ton,
It was my mistake, I selected the wrong aircraft in the X-Plane menu. The 747 appeared twice in the menu, but only one of them was labeled PSX 747.
It is really surprising how different X-Plane is. The sloped runways and the night lighting is stunning.
Best regards,
Dirk
Great it works now. I love X plane, the only downside is the lack of seasons. I partly solved it with the SAM utility
@Dirk: Welcome to the Xp-World.
Seasons? Try Terramax by X-Aviation...
Best
Steff
You're all Voyeurists... that's what ya are :-)
Hi jcomm,
yes it looks like we are, right ?
But if I had a standalone VATSIM client for PSX I will never use the scenery stuff again. But..... :-)
Best
Steff
Quote from: Captain_Crow on Thu, 5 Mar 2020 10:30
Try Terramax by X-Aviation...
Best
Steff
Thanks Steff, definitely an improvement
If I missed it then I"m sorry for asking, but is there a step-by-step guide on how to set up PSX and Xplane 11 scenery? I'm running both programs independently on a WIN10 PC, but understand that the scenery Xplane 11 provides can be used with PSX. Thanks for any help.
If you look through my "Getting started with PSX — Part 3" (available from http://aerowinx.com/html/misc.html (http://aerowinx.com/html/misc.html)) you might find something relevant?
It's true that in Part 3 I was talking about interfacing PSX with FSX via VisualPSX — however I have subsequently started to use P3Dv4 (via WidePSX or ExternalSim) and also X-Plane (via X-View), and I found that the same principles worked fine for interfacing PSX with both those sims, too. And in the specific case of X-Plane I can confirm that everything works beautifully (an appropriate word — see pic), both with PSX and X-Plane on the same PC and also with them on separate PCs.
(https://i.postimg.cc/90rhmKHq/Genoa-700px.png)
Or, if you're having a specific problem, perhaps you could let us know what it is and I'm sure someone will be able to help you. (https://s20.postimg.cc/jb9grensd/HelpSOS(anim).gif)
Cheers
Brian
Thx Brian!
Precious info!
BTW: Have you been able to test XP11.50 b1 ( Vulkan ) with XView yet?
Thanks Brian. will keep you apprised of progress.
That's great, thank you — and good luck with your efforts! (https://s20.postimg.cc/xavfpbb7h/thumbup.gif)
@Jcomm
<grin> Please don't start making chicken noises at me, but I have to admit that I'm torn on this one. Delighted though I would be to receive the extra fps that Vulkan promises, along with the reduction in stutters from the precompilation of shaders, this is such a huge rebuild that even I (who has been categorised as someone who "...rushes in where angels fear to tread" where new releases are concerned) am torn about whether I ought to install it. I think what's mainly holding me back is the fact that Traffic Global doesn't work with it yet — but anyway, in the event that I do give in to temptation I'll post here and let you know how it went. (https://i.postimg.cc/hjDtKwFV/Whistle(anim).gif)
Cheers,
Brian
Well... just tested 11.50 b1, and since I only use default scenery - didn't test ASXP yet - it works just fine with a gain of 30% ( more in some scenarios involving the usually heavy rendering of clouds ).
This is more than OK for me - I only use XP11 for PSX, so I always disable all joystick axis, buttons, as well as most of the keyboard shortcuts that can interfere with my PSX setup, and save the configuration :-)
So far I am enjoying the additional smoothness, although I am aware my GPU is not optimized for Vulkan - GTX 960 4 GB - and my CPU is that old i5 2500, and my RAM 16 GB DDR3 from pre-history :-). Just imagine if you're on an modern AMD GPU ...
Very satisfied so far with 11.50, even if still in beta...
Wow, that's very encouraging to hear — thank you!
Initial reports seem to suggest that lack of VRAM is causing some people problems.
Although I still think I'll be holding off for a while, since I use a lot of add-ons, and of course Traffic Global is known not to work yet. <sigh>
Many thanks for the report,
Cheers,
Brian
I tested xp11.50b1 (vulkan beta) with Xview + xSquawkbox 2.0 + AFV standalone client during CTP this weekend:
- Vulkan works well and does delivers FPS improvement/reduced stutters (my PCs are running 2 and 3 screen set ups using GTX1080s). Third party scenery seems to be fine.
- Xview had no issues connecting
- xSquawkbox v2.0 + AFV audio worked fine however other aircraft were not being rendered. The xSquawkbox website (https://xsb.xsquawkbox.net/ (https://xsb.xsquawkbox.net/)) suggests an update to v3.0 is in the works to be vulkan compatible
- Ground speed is still not being registered on most clients when using xView +xSquawkbox + AFV standalone client
Dear Hammerstan,
is the AFV standalone still required? I made a quick flight from GMMX to GOBD on Thursday. After I configured my audio settings in XSquawkbox, voice communication worked without running the AFV standalone client in the background.
The combo of PSX and XSquawkbox works really well, I am only having the issue that the traffic is not injected into PSX TCAS. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't. I could clearly see them in Xplane (one of them was on the same altitude, only 15 NM ahead), but not in PSX. Every now and then the TCAS symbol popped up but disappeared shortly thereafter.
Best regards,
Dirk
I've managed to network PSX and X-Plane 11 on my WIN10 PC. All seems fine, both programs run without stutters and their positions agree. I have, however, only one monitor attached to the PC, and now need to switch constantly between the two programs to enjoy x-plane's scenery. Is there a way where I can use the PSX display and X-plane's scenery concurrently. By that I mean, use the PSX cockpit display and x-plane's scenery in the same window without the switching process? I guess I need to split the window in two, or? Appreciate any help.
Quote from: cdpohl on Wed, 8 Apr 2020 08:38
I've managed to network PSX and X-Plane 11 on my WIN10 PC. All seems fine, both programs run without stutters and their positions agree. I have, however, only one monitor attached to the PC, and now need to switch constantly between the two programs to enjoy x-plane's scenery. Is there a way where I can use the PSX display and X-plane's scenery concurrently. By that I mean, use the PSX cockpit display and x-plane's scenery in the same window without the switching process? I guess I need to split the window in two, or? Appreciate any help.
I do it this way:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/9vd291lzvk9sosq/20190302_161536.jpg?dl=0
https://www.dropbox.com/s/4ik4ryxbtuhsw1x/20190302_161613.jpg?dl=0
Ther is a little program calls TurboTop which allows to hold one window always on top. Would be good to let stay XP11 on top when you are clicking in the PSX Screen. I have no link available yet, just do a search...
Best
Steff
I find that compressing the Xplane window to half the screen distorts the vertical movement.
I use Xplane at full screen (but still windowed) and adjust the view with the right mouse button so that the horizon is 3/4 way up the screen. Then I just put PSX in the lower half of the screen, on top of Xplane. Hope that makes sense.
You can save an Xplane view by hitting Ctrl+Numpad(x) once you're satisfied with the view. In Xplane 10, just hit that numpad number to recall the view. For some unnacountable reason, in Xplane 11 you have to hit numpad(x+1) to get the same view. Or, if you like, hit Ctrl+Numpad(x-1) to save it.
For instance, I use numpad 5 for my default ahead view. In Xplane 10 I save it by using Ctrl+Numpad(5), but in Xplane 11, I use Ctrl+Numpad(4)
I think we talked about the idea below before; but I don't recall it.
We know semi-transparency is extremely expensive on the CPU/GPU as it essentially needs to calculate more than twice the pixels to arrive at the solution.
However Windows native has also a feature somewhere in its GUI stack to declare a colour fully transparent. I once used this to drop the background out of windows so that they became like glass, with ink painted on the glass and becoming useful to make overlays on a radar display. This was cheap on the CPU.
If Java in the mean time has introduced this feature, too, it could be possible to drop the complete painting inside the windshield frame out of PSX so that whatever is under PSX shines through. If Java has it. Just stop painting the windshield entirely, replace it by an unused colour, and declare that colour transparent. If.
Hoppie
(https://www.hoppie.nl/tmp/transparent.png)
Hello to everyone! I'm new to the forum and PSX in general, but I'm trying to learn as I love complex aircrafts :D
I saw down the forum that someone had the same issue as me - the plane hovers 2m above ground, has absolutely no animations and no lights. The rest works fine - it flies fantastically but doesn't feed elevation data to PSX i think as I had some instances of plane in x plane on runway and still 5-10ft agl in PSX, but those are minor deatils.
I've put the sim directory in the cfg file, connected through main and boost (i'm running PSX and Xplane on the same pc), in Xview preferences activated animations, lights, comms and boost... I saw a screenshot down the forum of someone with all animations active, so I think it can be corrected? X plane 11.43
PS - are there news about someone thinking about making an interface with MSFS2020?
Thanks to all who responded so swiftly to my request for help. A great community.
Through experimenting I discovered the issue: in X-plane flight configuration just leave the "start with engines running" option on.
Quote from: dzmitryry on Wed, 8 Apr 2020 20:59
the plane hovers 2m above ground, has absolutely no animations and no lights.
Make sure the check boxes are ticked for Animations Active and Animate Lights in the Xview settings.
Sometimes hovering off the ground is caused by forcing XP11 to slew to the PSX aircraft position. To avoid this my start up procedure is to load PSX first at the departure airport, then start XP11 at the same departure airport.
Quote from: Dirk Schepmann on Sun, 5 Apr 2020 14:09
is the AFV standalone still required?
The reasons I use AFV with xSquawkBox is that if you have the AFV standalone client working in PSX mode by changing the ClientConfig.xml, you can set it to work off the PSX PTT key. Refer http://aerowinx.com/board/index.php?topic=5419.0 (http://aerowinx.com/board/index.php?topic=5419.0)
I understand Gary has plans for a PSX vatsim client which will avoid all this nonsense with multiple daisy chained apps (and hopefully the groundspeed issue)
Sadly I've never been able to see vatsim traffic injected into PSX TCAS via xView
--->The reasons I use AFV with xSquawkBox is that if you have the AFV standalone client working in PSX mode by changing the ClientConfig.xml, you can set it to work off the PSX PTT key. Refer http://aerowinx.com/board/index.php?topic=5419.0<--
Dear Hammerstan, I tried this using AFV on a second computer, did not get it to work, are you on a one computer system?
best
Steff
My set up has Xsquawkbox + AFV both on the same PC (one less thing to worry about). I assume to work off a remote PC the IP address of the XP11 PC needs to be specified in Simulator Settings under AFV Settings.
I currently only have PSX VHF L linked to AFV Com1. Is there a way/has anyone been able to link a second PSX radio (eg VFR R) to AFV Com2 to enable receiving of two frequencies simultaneously?
Hi Hammerstan,
my question was a bit missleading.
I just wanted to know if you could arrange the PTT on the psx computer when using AfV on a remote one.
The pro for using AFV on a remote is, you have just the ATC in your hedphones not the hole sound including PSX sound.
But it seems not to go with setup a joystick button on the main computer...
Best
Steff
Multiple com radios will come in the standalone for PSX when we can split out to two different audio stacks.
Brilliant Gary
Quote from: Captain_Crow on Sat, 11 Apr 2020 09:40
I just wanted to know if you could arrange the PTT on the psx computer when using AfV on a remote one.
The pro for using AFV on a remote is, you have just the ATC in your hedphones not the hole sound including PSX sound.
But it seems not to go with setup a joystick button on the main computer...
This still should be achievable as you map AFV to both the XP11 IP address and to PSX via the \AudioForVATSIM\ClientConfig.xml file <SimulatorIpAddress>.
Alternatively, run a second instance of PSX on your AFV PC (ie headphone PC) turning off all the PSX sounds other than those you want to come through your headset (eg Headphone Captain). Your joystick which activates the PTT key can still be mapped to PSX on your main PC. The second instance of PSX on the AFV PC will still activate on the PTT key.
I achieve something similar with two instances of PSX dedicated to running sounds - one for speaker sounds, one for headset sounds (AFV, pushback truck comms, PSX co-pilot callouts).
Quote from: Gary Oliver on Sat, 11 Apr 2020 11:21
Multiple com radios will come in the standalone for PSX when we can split out to two different audio stacks.
I'm curious Gary, will the standalone AFV for PSX allow PSX to inject vatsim traffic back into the scenery generator, therefore for multi-PC setups will we be able to see traffic across all PC/monitors sourced from PSX. [My multi-PC XP11 setup only has vatsim traffic on the xsquawkbox enabled PC]
An interesting video someone sent me tday - PSX + XP11:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0oPOrM8B5Zw
I understand fuel is cheap these days but still gear down and flaps 30 ~15nm out at 3700' AGL? :)
Anyone tried Xview with Vulkan yet?
I used to get 18-20fps running Xplane 11 as visuals for PSX, using Xview.
This was before Vulkan.
I'm now getting 30-40fps, which is great, except this is without Xview. As soon as I load Xview into the Resources/Plugins folder, or add it to the Plugins folder in an individual aircraft, my fps crash to 1 - 2.
Anyone else tried with Vulkan yet?
Thanks,
Roger.
I did try it and it was very smooth, more than before.
My GPU is Nvidia - GTX 960 4GB, so far from top...
Make sure you set the PSX refresh rate to 60 / 2.
Also don't forget to:
- disable real weather in XP if you opted to inject it using XView;
- disable real time in XP if you opted for setting time through XView;
>>>>>>>Update: Did a clean install of Xplane 11 and it now works - am guessing there was a plugin Vulkan didn;t like. Still a little unstable and sensitive to start order (seems to like XP11 started first then PSX), but making progress!<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Thanks for responding.
My RW weather and time were disabled anyway. I had PSX on 73fps but have now changed it to 60/2
No luck unfortunately.
I'll try running both on the same machine and see if that makes any difference.
Edit - nope - no difference. If anything slightly worse - less than one frame per second.
The effect is right across the computer - mouse moves incredibly slowly even if outside the X-plane window.
For info, if anyone can help|:
Windows 10 64bit
AMD FX8350 4ghz 8 core
32Gb RAM
Geforce GTX960
Quote from: RogerH on Mon, 4 May 2020 14:09
>>>>>>>Update: Did a clean install of Xplane 11 and it now works - am guessing there was a plugin Vulkan didn;t like. Still a little unstable and sensitive to start order (seems to like XP11 started first then PSX), but making progress!<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Thanks for responding.
My RW weather and time were disabled anyway. I had PSX on 73fps but have now changed it to 60/2
No luck unfortunately.
I'll try running both on the same machine and see if that makes any difference.
Edit - nope - no difference. If anything slightly worse - less than one frame per second.
The effect is right across the computer - mouse moves incredibly slowly even if outside the X-plane window.
For info, if anyone can help|:
Windows 10 64bit
AMD FX8350 4ghz 8 core
32Gb RAM
Geforce GTX960
To get the best experience (FPS in Xplane 11) , I disabled my malware byte anti virus and windows defender. But I am not on internet during those times. I have a wifi router I use which is not connected to web but use only for PSX and Xplane purposes. Only downside with this is that you wont get ACARS functionality..
1) I fire up PSX first always
2) Start X PLANE 11, I load PSX 747 or SSG 747-8 (I know it is a -8 and not a -400) or Xplane's default 747-400
3) When the Xplane's aircraft is loaded, I will have to hit PAUSE in Xplane. Otherwise, the plane will be taking a nosedive.
4) I then go to Datarefs and override PLANEPATH dataref from "0" to "1".
5) Unpause Xplane 11..Bingo, I am all set flying at that point
- luckily with Xplane's default 747-400 Or SSG 747-8, Scenery generation is a breeze. Infact landing gears and flaps work fine. Only the lights are a problem
By the way, I have an Alienware Aurora R6 PC which is strictly used for flight simulation...And I barely run other Xplne airplanes..Only PSX. I hit FPS of 50-60 for a cockpit view.
Like to know others experience...
QuoteOnly downside with this is that you wont get ACARS functionality.
It is relatively straightforward to deploy a proxy server that should give you ACARS back. With the extra gear you already have, setting up a DMZ isn't so much work.
Hoppie
Quote from: Jeroen Hoppenbrouwers on Mon, 4 May 2020 22:57
QuoteOnly downside with this is that you wont get ACARS functionality.
It is relatively straightforward to deploy a proxy server that should give you ACARS back. With the extra gear you already have, setting up a DMZ isn't so much work.
Hoppie
I have to learn what DMZ is and how to setup proxy server. Is there a forum link where I can visit, if it was discussed in the past...Thank you for this lead, I will explore more and report back.
Not Forum so much, but out there is a lot of detail on these things. It's security stuff. Wikipedia has a lot on a demilitarized zone, for example:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DMZ_(computing)
For proxy servers and other techniques, you can use the same resources.
Hoppie
Cockpit blackout. Hypoxia??
Here is what I did.
1) Start AEROWINX PSX
2) Loaded the Xview PSX 747 in Xplane 11
3) In the Xplane 11 window, clicked "RELOAD CURRENT AIRCRAFT and ART", which is listed under DEVELOPER pull down menu
4) The blackout started slowly and became completely dark
5) AEROWINX PSX was running like a breeze, the aircraft was cruising at FL350. With no CAUTION or ALERTs in the AEROWINX PSX. Packs were all ON
I did some research and understood, the possible reason would depressurization and Hypoxia..And I dont know how to deal with that blackout situation in Xplane 11.
Till yesterday, I would load Xplane 11 after PSX. Override the DATAREFS for PLANEPATH in XPLane and run the simulator. Seems like this is not needed, as the Xview plugin should take care of controlling the PLANEPATH in Xplane 11. Its only needed to RELOAD THE AIRPLANE in XPlane. But the blackout situation arises...
Any thoughts?
Shouldn't happen, if you are using the XView 747, and have inserted the plugin into it's plugins folder.
When lodaded the aircraft is not subject to that same effect that others may experience.
Strange indeed ? Unless it's some quirk with one of the latest betas of XP11.50 ?
:-\ :-\ :-\
Quote from: jcomm on Fri, 8 May 2020 18:18
Shouldn't happen, if you are using the XView 747, and have inserted the plugin into it's plugins folder.
When lodaded the aircraft is not subject to that same effect that others may experience.
Strange indeed ? Unless it's some quirk with one of the latest betas of XP11.50 ?
This is where I have placed the Xview plugin :
X-Plane 11/Aircraft/Laminar research/Heavy Metal/Plugins/Xview
When I load (as you have mentioned) the airplane Xview 747 (in X-plane 11) it takes a nosedive (whilst the AEROWINX PSX is running fine). This I believe is because the AEROWINX PSX isnt yet driving the planepath. At that point, I have one or the other option. Either to pause (in Xplane 11), Overwrite the DATAREF for planepath or to RELOAD CURRENT AIRPLANE and ART (in X-plane 11) as I explained. If I reload, the blackout situation happens.
Also, I make sure the Xview 747 is the very first aircraft I load. So that there are no other plugin traces affecting .
@vnangli,
either you didn't copy the correct path or if not then there's a good chance the problem resides in the fact that it lacks the aircraft folder.
I don't recall exactly how the psx 744 model is named, but let's assume it's name is exactly "psx744". Then in your path it should be there:
X-Plane 11/Aircraft/Laminar research/Heavy Metal/psx744/Plugins/Xview
Quote from: jcomm on Fri, 8 May 2020 20:32
@vnangli,
X-Plane 11/Aircraft/Laminar research/Heavy Metal/psx744/Plugins/Xview
It was my mistake I missed including the PSX744 in the folder path I mentioned.
Xview plugin is infact in (I checked again just before I typed this reply) :X-Plane 11/Aircraft/Laminar research/Heavy Metal/PSX744/Plugins/Xview
Let's try a new track then...
I remember XView uses a CFG file that will be in the root directory of XP11, and it's called something like xview.cfg
Inside that config file one of the first ( maybe exactly the first ) line have the PATH string into the folder where this config file resides. Make sure it has the correct full path string, for instance
SETTINGS PATH=""
should read instead:
SETTINGS PATH="D:\X-Plane 11"
if you had installed XP11 at the root of disk D:
Sometimes the string is void or has the incorrect full path.
Quote from: jcomm on Fri, 8 May 2020 21:39
Let's try a new track then...
I remember XView uses a CFG file that will be in the root directory of XP11, and it's called something like xview.cfg
Inside that config file one of the first ( maybe exactly the first ) line have the PATH string into the folder where this config file resides. Make sure it has the correct full path string, for instance
SETTINGS PATH=""
should read instead:
SETTINGS PATH="D:\X-Plane 11"
if you had installed XP11 at the root of disk D:
Sometimes the string is void or has the incorrect full path.
Reporting back. I thank you sincerely for your time to fix this situation.
I checked the Xview.cfg. Found it in the Xplane 11 folder, along with Xplane11.exe
As you suspected, SETTINGS was blank (" ").
I updated it to read "C:\Users\vnang\desktop". I have installed the Xplane 11 on my desktop and my username for the computer is "vnang". Saved the Xview.cfg file
Went back to restart Xplane 11, and loaded Xview 747 immediately after a restart. It was nosediving.
Black out started once I selected to RELOAD CURRENT AIRCRAFT and ART. I quit Xplane-11 and went back to reopen the Xview.cfg file, the SETTINGS had gone back to blank (" ")
I checked my folder access and controls, the Xplane 11 folder has been excluded from the CONTROLLED FOLDER controls.
Quote from: vnangli on Fri, 8 May 2020 22:05
Reporting back. I thank you sincerely for your time to fix this situation.
I checked the Xview.cfg. Found it in the Xplane 11 folder, along with Xplane11.exe
As you suspected, SETTINGS was blank (" ").
I updated it to read "C:/Users/vnang/desktop"
The name of the X-Plane folder is still missing in that string vnang...
Admiting it is the default "X-plane 11", then the string should read:
"C:/Users/vnang/desktop
/X-Plane 11"
And if possible please use the forward slash instead ... just in case ...
Tried it again,
1) In Xview.cfg, plugged in "C:\Users\vnang\desktop\X-plane 11" for SETTINGS which was blank in Xview.cfg
2) Saved Xview.cfg
3) Started X-Plane 11, Loaded Xview 747 while AEROWINX PSX was already running
4) The plane took a nosedive, I RELOADED AIRCRAFT and ART (DEVELOPER pull down menu). Black out started. At that point I reopened the Xview.cfg. The SETTINGS had gone back to " ". It was confirmed by the date stamp, it had a time which matched with my "RELOAD...."
Any thoughts on why Xview.cfg would be resetting back? Does this give you any clue.
You can try to:
1) Set the file permissions in Windows, for read-only, by right clicking on the "xview.conf" after altering it and setting the proper path, without XP11 or PSX running, and then under "Properties" marking Read-only in Attributes.
2) Or... after loading PSX and making sure the Boost server is running, use the plugins menu, Xview and set your options through there just to check if it works...
After getting it to work there are yet two other typical quirks:
- forgetting to set the weather and time in X-plane to manually set, if you choose to set ( animate ) under weather and time in XView.cfg.
Quote from: jcomm on Fri, 8 May 2020 22:53
You can try to:
1) Set the file permissions in Windows, for read-only, by right clicking on the "xview.conf" after altering it and setting the proper path, without XP11 or PSX running, and then under "Properties" marking Read-only in Attributes.
2) Or... after loading PSX and making sure the Boost server is running, use the plugins menu, Xview and set your options through there just to check if it works...
After getting it to work there are yet two other typical quirks:
- forgetting to set the weather and time in X-plane to manually set, if you choose to set ( animate ) under weather and time in XView.cfg.
Okay, I updated the Xview.cfg and SETTINGS to capture/list the Xplane root directory location. This is also where I have placed the Xview.cfg. Then turned the Xview.cfg into a READ ONLY file. Fresh started the AEROWINX and Xplane 11 and in the same order.
When the Xview 747 was loaded, it started nosediving again. At that point, When I "RELOAD.." the aircraft in Xplane 11. Plane becomes stable and starts to cruising, however within cockpit black out returns. What seems to working is that the Xview is driving the planepath for Xview 747 in Xplane 11 after "RELOAD". But, blackout? I checked for weather and time in the Plugin. They are checked and are being driven by PSX.
Now, here is what I have found to work
Start PSX
Start Xplane and load Xview 747, momentarily pause in Xplane 11 only to update the DATAREF OVERRIDE_PLANEPATH to "1". I go and unpause Xplane 11. Things are working absolutely fine
What I am trying to achieve is to "Not Update the DATAREF" everytime.
Hey, I am really thankful for your patience....I am sure, there is something that I am doing wrong and may not have explained well...
I'm glad that at least it now works, but I never had to get into such a "mess" to get it working, well... Hmmmm... although NOW I do recall the last time I installed X-Plane 11, and it was already in 11.50 b2 if I'm not wrong, I did experience a similar situation, although not the "hypoxia" because I always started from the "ready for takeoff" situ which I usually modify to start from my Base of Operations ( either LPPT or LPMT :-) ).
I recall that at some time what fixed it was temporarily moving the XView plugin to the main X-plane Plugins folder, and that is how it was initially designed to work but prevents us from using other aircraft with X-Plane because once we load the sim XView becomes the "active mode of flying"...
But I never had to edit a Dataref, and I didn't actually know about that one ? Seems to correspond to the option "ExternalSim" in P3D...
Can you please paste here the contents of your Xview.cfg as it looks now?
I also recall having deleted the LOG files XView had created in the root folder of X-Plane 11.
Also REALLY make sure you load the correct 744 - "PSX Plane ?" - from the X-Plane 11 aircraft menu. I did load the default XP11 744 a few times, tricked by it's icon :-/
Thank you
Quote from: vnangli on Fri, 8 May 2020 15:37
Here is what I did.
1) Start AEROWINX PSX
When you run a scenery generator, starting PSX is not the only requirement. You also need to start the main and boost servers in your PSX.
Regards,
|-|ardy
Quote from: Hardy Heinlin on Sat, 9 May 2020 14:53
Quote from: vnangli on Fri, 8 May 2020 15:37
Here is what I did.
1) Start AEROWINX PSX
When you run a scenery generator, starting PSX is not the only requirement. You also need to start the main and boost servers in your PSX.
Regards,
|-|ardy
Yes, I have been checking that...And that part seems to be working perfectly. I believe what I am facing as BLACKOUT on RELOAD is something that has to do with the Datarefs within the Xplane 11 world. Even after the blackout, when I go to the external view (in Xplane 11) the plane is perfectly cruising...Add to that, I go to map view (again in Xplane 11) the locations are matching up with PSX and Xplane 11...Only the cockpit is blacked out.
@vnangli,
please post your XView.cfg
Quote from: jcomm on Sat, 9 May 2020 08:26
Can you please paste here the contents of your Xview.cfg as it looks now?
I also recall having deleted the LOG files XView had created in the root folder of X-Plane 11.
Also REALLY make sure you load the correct 744 - "PSX Plane ?" - from the X-Plane 11 aircraft menu. I did load the default XP11 744 a few times, tricked by it's icon :-/
Thank you
Here is my cfg content...
HEADER = "XView Configuration File Fri May 8 17:27:05 2020"
SETTINGS_PATH = "C:\Users\vnang\Desktop\X-Plane 11\"
BOOST_ADDRESS = "10.0.1.39 : 10749" ; IP address
MAIN_ADDRESS = "10.0.1.39 : 10747" ; IP address
RELAY_ADDRESS = "127.0.0.1 : 10740" ; IP address
RELAY_BOOST_DATA = FALSE ; Set to true if XView relays boost data
SMOOTH_TRAJECTORY = FALSE ; Extrapolate between PSX updates (default: FALSE)
DO_ANIMATIONS = TRUE ; Animate external parts, eg gear, etc(default: TRUE)
DO_LIGHTS = TRUE ; Animate lights (default: TRUE)
DO_WEATHER = TRUE ; Set true if PSX sets X-Plane weather
DO_COMMS = TRUE ; Set true if PSX sets X-Plane comms
DO_TIME = TRUE ; Set true if PSX sets X-Plane time
SIDE_VIEWS = FALSE ; Set TRUE to allow PSX to set X-Plane view angle
USE_BOOST_SERVER = TRUE ; Set to TRUE to use Boost server - the normal setting
PSX_TRAFFIC = 3 ; Set to the number of traffic planes you want driven by PSX (max 7)
USE_PSX_TRAFFIC = FALSE ; Set true if PSX drives the traffic aircraft
USE_XP_TRAFFIC = FALSE ; Set true if XP drives the traffic aircraft
INJECT_ELEVATION = TRUE ; Set to true to send scenery elevation to Main server
Yes, I have been loading Xview 747 only.. and not the Xplane 11 default 747. However see my findings below and let me know your thoughts.
Here are some other interesting trials I did :
1) Place the Xview plugin in Plugins folder within the aircraft folder (and not at the C:\Users\vnang\Desktop\X-Plane 11\Resources\plugins) for "Xplane 11 Default 747" and "SSG Intercontinental 747-8"
2) When PSX is running, the scenery generation with Xplane 11's default 747 and SSG 747-8 is a breeze. Yes, I will still have to pause when the aircraft loads, over write the DATAREF and unpause. So that the aircraft doesnt nosedive when loaded...All the while when I do the pause and all that stuff, PSX is running smoothly
3) With the step 1 and 2 listed above, Xplane 11's Default 747's landing gear, flaps and all those functionalities work fine (I mean, I control all those in AEROWINX's PSX and Xplane responds to those commands) . I believe its only the lights part which doesnt work, specially the NAV LIGHTS and STROBE LIGHTS
4) With SSG Intercontinental, landing gears, spoilers, flaps all work fine (when driven from AEROWINX). Main landing lights do work, but only flash for a second. So there is some tweaking required on the SSG's datarefs I believe. The only reason I like to use SSG is due to the variety of liveries available...I like taking some screenshots and use it as my wallpaper...
Overall, I would be moving the Xview plugin to the main Xplane 11 directory. As I dont use any of the airplanes at all. Xplane is being exclusively to serve PSX...So, I would have no complaints.
Hey, this has been an excellent conversation...Sorry, my reply was a little long..But would like to hear more from your explorations...
Take care
Quote from: jcomm on Sat, 9 May 2020 16:53
@vnangli,
please post your XView.cfg
Please see my previous post. Now, this is the CFG file which was modified before starting xplane 11 and PSX. The file was then saved and made READ ONLY.
I edited this post and here are some of findings, interesting ones and seem to be satisfactory to my expectations (about Xplane 11)
1) Moved the Xview plugin from within the PSX aircraft's plugins folder to "X-Plane 11\Resources\plugins"
2) Loaded the Xview 747 (while AEROWINX PSX was already running). To my surprise, the Xview 747 was flying perfectly now. I mean no nose diving. And I didnt have to OVERWRITE the DATAREF and all that stuff
3) Intentionally, loaded one of the other aircraft (a Boeing 737) in Xplane 11. Xview plugin was driving the Boeing 737 as well.
4) I disabled the Xview plugin (for the Boeing 737) from the "PLUGINS" pull down menu. The Boeing 737 was no more affected by Xview plugin...You have to RELOAD PLUGINS after disabling Xview though
5) Switched the airplane back to Xview 747 from Boeing 737. It was on the ground..Thats because Xview was disabled during Boeing 737 usage
6) Enabled the Xview plugin, RELOADED PLUGINS...Bingo, the Xview 747 was in sync with AEROWINX PSX.
So, I believe this works for me and am satisfied with Xplane 11's behavior...
Phew.....It took a while though....to figure out.
@vnangli
Regarding your configuration file and described tests:
a) Since you are using PSX and XP11 on the same PC, set all IPs to 127.0.0.1, instead of those two LAN addresses I see in the CFG ( 10.0.1.39 );
b) XView is specifically meant to be used ** only ** with the PSX Airplane, a modified XP10 Boeing 747-400 model. If you load a different model, like the default XP11 747 or another add-on, weird stuff can happen, like the hypoxia effect ...
c) I assumed you were already starting both the Normal and Boost servers on PSX, hence my other post which Hardy promptly replied;
d) Now that it is working, you should move the XView plugin folder from the Main XP11 plugins into the PSX Airplane plugins folder so that whenever you load XP11 to use it without PSX it works properly ( the XView plugin will not be loaded ).
Quote from: jcomm on Sat, 9 May 2020 18:22
@vnangli
a) Since you are using PSX and XP11 on the same PC, set all IPs to 127.0.0.1, instead of those two LAN addresses I see in the CFG ( 10.0.1.39 );
b) XView is specifically meant to be used ** only ** with the PSX Airplane, a modified XP10 Boeing 747-400 model. If you load a different model, like the default XP11 747 or another add-on, weird stuff can happen, like the hypoxia effect ...
c) I assumed you were already starting both the Normal and Boost servers on PSX, hence my other post which Hardy promptly replied;
a) Well, the IP address I have entered there (in the CFG file) are the ones I picked up from AEROWINX (>PREFERENCES>BASICS). I will try with the option suggested by you and report back
b) The hypoxia effect was happening with Xview PSX. And it was noticed in the other models as well (default XP11 747 and SSG 747-8)
c) Yes, I have set my PREFERENCES in AEROWINX to "START WITH MAIN SERVER : ON" and "START WITH BOOST SERVER : ON"
I changed CFG file
from
BOOST_ADDRESS = "10.0.1.39 : 10749" ; IP address
MAIN_ADDRESS = "10.0.1.39 : 10747" ; IP address
RELAY_ADDRESS = "127.0.0.1 : 10740" ; IP address
to
BOOST_ADDRESS = "127.0.0.1 : 10749" ; IP address
MAIN_ADDRESS = "127.0.0.1 : 10747" ; IP address
RELAY_ADDRESS = "127.0.0.1 : 10740" ; IP address
1) Moved back the Xview plugin to Xview 747's aircraft folder from Xplane 11/resources/plugin.
2) Restarted XPlane 11, and loaded Xview 747. The plane was in a nosedive mode
But this time, I RELOADED PLUGINS (Plugins>DataRefTool>Reload plugins) instead of the RELOAD THE CURRENT AIRCRAFT AND ART under DEVELOPER pulldown menu.
Result : Bingo....The plane was in normal cruising mode and not nose diving anymore.
At this point, my curiousity didnt subside. So, I chose to RELOAD THE CURRENT AIRCRAFT AND ART under DEVELOPER pulldown menu...
Blackout did happen...
Well,
thx for reporting back... I am out of any additional cues for now :-)
Maybe the latest betas of XP11.50 changed something regarding the datarefs, and the hypoxia effect isn't bypassed by XView ?
Quote from: jcomm on Sat, 9 May 2020 20:43
Well,
thx for reporting back... I am out of any additional cues for now :-)
Maybe the latest betas of XP11.50 changed something regarding the datarefs, and the hypoxia effect isn't bypassed by XView ?
How does Xplane 11 behave on your side, especially if you RELOAD CURRENT AIRCRAFT AND ART (under DEVELOPER pull down menu) after the Xview 747 has already been running?
Quote from: vnangli on Sat, 9 May 2020 23:59
How does Xplane 11 behave on your side, especially if you RELOAD CURRENT AIRCRAFT AND ART (under DEVELOPER pull down menu) after the Xview 747 has already been running?
Well... can't tell because I don't even have XP11 installed anyomore :-/
Had to find disk to load DCS World WW2 ... and I have a small SSD :-/
I know it's a simple one, but always worth checking the basic stuff - I assume you have "simulate blackout. redout & hypoxia effects" unchecked in the Xplane 11 Settings/General tab?
Sorry if this is too basic, but I get caught by stuff like that all the time :-)
Quote from: RogerH on Sun, 10 May 2020 17:10
I know it's a simple one, but always worth checking the basic stuff - I assume you have "simulate blackout. redout & hypoxia effects" unchecked in the Xplane 11 Settings/General tab?
Sorry if this is too basic, but I get caught by stuff like that all the time :-)
Quote from: jcomm on Sun, 10 May 2020 00:18
Quote from: vnangli on Sat, 9 May 2020 23:59
How does Xplane 11 behave on your side, especially if you RELOAD CURRENT AIRCRAFT AND ART (under DEVELOPER pull down menu) after the Xview 747 has already been running?
Well... can't tell because I don't even have XP11 installed anyomore :-/
Had to find disk to load DCS World WW2 ... and I have a small SSD :-/
@jcomm,
@RogerH's check worked....
Here is the sequence of my testing
1) AEROWINX PSX started, Main server on, Boost server on
2) Xplane 11 started, Xview 747 was loaded and the plane was nosediving at this point (please note, the Xview plugin is located in the path \Heavy metal\PSX\Plugins and "NOT" in the Xplane 11\resources\plugins
3) RELOADED PLUGINS from the Plugins pulldown menu. The plane was cruizing at that point and not nosediving anymore
4) Earlier (before I unchecked the "simulate blackout. redout & hypoxia effects" in the Xplane 11's Settings/General tab),
I would have seen the blackout in the Xplane 11 once I would have "RELOADED CURRENT AIRCRAFT and ART" under Developer pulldown menu
5) Today, I unchecked (after @RogerH's suggestion) the "simulate blackout. redout & hypoxia effects". That fixed it, I believe
6)
No more blackouts, I verified it (RELOAD CURRENT AIRCRAFT AND ART under DEVELOPER pulldown menu) multiple times in Xplane 11
Hey, @jcomm and @RogerH...thank you both...
:-)
Hi all,
Is there a trick to get the Groundspeed visible.
If I'm online (Vatsim) my groundspeed is not shown to the Controller.
The rest works fine
thx for help
Kurt
Hi Kurt,
This is a known limitation, but as far as I know it's not a big deal for most controllers.
Cheers,
Dirk
Quote from: Dirk Schepmann on Sat, 27 Jun 2020 18:09
Hi Kurt,
This is a known limitation, but as far as I know it's not a big deal for most controllers.
Cheers,
Dirk
Thanks Dirk
Quote from: Hammerstan on Sun, 5 Apr 2020 11:36
I tested xp11.50b1 (vulkan beta) with Xview + xSquawkbox 2.0 + AFV standalone client during CTP this weekend:
- Vulkan works well and does delivers FPS improvement/reduced stutters (my PCs are running 2 and 3 screen set ups using GTX1080s). Third party scenery seems to be fine.
- Xview had no issues connecting
- xSquawkbox v2.0 + AFV audio worked fine however other aircraft were not being rendered. The xSquawkbox website (https://xsb.xsquawkbox.net/ (https://xsb.xsquawkbox.net/)) suggests an update to v3.0 is in the works to be vulkan compatible
- Ground speed is still not being registered on most clients when using xView +xSquawkbox + AFV standalone client
As an update to the above Vulkan (XP11.50b) continues to work extremely well. I am now running 3x 4K monitors off a single GTX2080S (+i7 8700k) and getting around 50fps. The only issue I have faced is that xSquawkbox 2.1 doesn't render VATSIM traffic (v3.0 should fix this). PilotEdge client now fully works. Very satisfied.
I believe as soon as a bridge between PSX and MFS becomes available, we will finally have a flawless integration of VATSIM...
Not to talk about the superb graphics...
Please some advise guys. I want to order a second computer because PSX + X plane and a MCP, CDU with a few add-one make my single old laptop stutter. This new computer should contain X-Plane (vulcan ready) and a PSX client version ( CDU). Further more the new MSFS 2020 should work (very) well ....for you never know :-)
I have read many forums, watched a whole lot of youtube films .....but it is very confusing. You guys know PSX and X Plane (with Vulcan) so I appreciate if you wil share your experience and give me some hints what to buy.
If I highjack this thread than the moderator can change it to a separate thread ?!
Ton,
my best advice - wait for MFS, forget XP...
Quote from: jcomm on Tue, 28 Jul 2020 14:40
Ton,
my best advice - wait for MFS, forget XP...
I agree with you that it looks fantastic and probably I will transfer ( if it is connectable with PSX...any progress yet?). But until that time I need a computer that works (very) well with XPlane and will work with MSFS 2020. What configuration you have?
Quote from: Ton van Bochove on Tue, 28 Jul 2020 14:49
Quote from: jcomm on Tue, 28 Jul 2020 14:40
Ton,
my best advice - wait for MFS, forget XP...
I agree with you that it looks fantastic and probably I will transfer ( if it is connectable with PSX...any progress yet?). But until that time I need a computer that works (very) well with XPlane and will work with MSFS 2020. What configuration you have?
A rather old one, but MFS runs at 30 with properly tuned settings...
i5 2500 @ 3,3GHz ( boost mode, otherwise 3,0 GHz ), GTX 960 4GB GDDR5 GPU, 16 GB DDR3 RAM, 2 240 GB SSDs ( 4 yo ), on Win 10 Pro 64.
I only have MFS installed in my F: partition right now, because it occupies a good deal of it.
Thanks J comm: I have some reference now
Quote from: Ton van Bochove on Tue, 28 Jul 2020 13:13
Please some advise guys. I want to order a second computer because PSX + X plane and a MCP, CDU with a few add-one make my single old laptop stutter. This new computer should contain X-Plane (vulcan ready) and a PSX client version ( CDU). Further more the new MSFS 2020 should work (very) well ....for you never know :-)
i7 + GTX1070/1080 or GTX2070/2080 if you can
Wait for the MFS port - you can't go any better...
Thanks Hammerstan, as far as I see know it wil definitely be the last and considering MSFS maybe the RTX.
I recommend waiting a little while until the release of the Nvidia 'Ampere' and AMD 'RDNA 2' video cards.
This will cause a price drop in new and used Nvidia 'RTX 2080 Ti' cards that are still very good performance cards.
Regards,
David
Thanks David! I am very pleased now with the Nvidia RTX 2080S. Super smooth PSX- X Plane performance and XP runs at max settings
i5 3.5k // GTX 970 // 16Gb RAM
Runs X-plane 11 (Vulkan) at 40+ fps with most settings max (reflections low and anti-aliasing low) - runs MFS at around 20-30fps as long as there aren't too many clouds!
Quote from: Hammerstan on Tue, 28 Jul 2020 12:40
Quote from: Hammerstan on Sun, 5 Apr 2020 11:36
I tested xp11.50b1 (vulkan beta) with Xview + xSquawkbox 2.0 + AFV standalone client during CTP this weekend:
- Vulkan works well and does delivers FPS improvement/reduced stutters (my PCs are running 2 and 3 screen set ups using GTX1080s). Third party scenery seems to be fine.
- Xview had no issues connecting
- xSquawkbox v2.0 + AFV audio worked fine however other aircraft were not being rendered. The xSquawkbox website (https://xsb.xsquawkbox.net/ (https://xsb.xsquawkbox.net/)) suggests an update to v3.0 is in the works to be vulkan compatible
- Ground speed is still not being registered on most clients when using xView +xSquawkbox + AFV standalone client
As an update to the above Vulkan (XP11.50b) continues to work extremely well. I am now running 3x 4K monitors off a single GTX2080S (+i7 8700k) and getting around 50fps. The only issue I have faced is that xSquawkbox 2.1 doesn't render VATSIM traffic (v3.0 should fix this). PilotEdge client now fully works. Very satisfied.
Wow thats amazing, you might convince me to move to XP! What do you get in big cities with high ortho? Has 11.5 fixed the speed reporting issue?
BTW where can I get the latest Xview download?
I picked up my version of xView here
QuoteStill available via my dropbox link:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/j49mprhuqzmh8uf/XView.zip?dl=0
Cheers,
AlexB
Large cities with Ortho4XP/ORBX TrueEarth + add on airport scenery (eg KLAX, KSLC, KABQ, KORD, YSSY) all work fine reporting good FPS in Vulkan XP11.50 (30-50fps on multi 4K monitors with GTX2080S; 50-70fps on single monitor GTX1080). Over 70fps in the air with clear skies.
I have also switched to XPilot for VATSIM which is rendering aircraft traffic (I had to "Reset Networking Configuration" on XP11's Settings|Network page to get it working). Unfortunately the ground speed reporting issue still isn't fixed.
Hi Hammerstan,
I had problems using Xpilot when flying the PSX/XP11 combo. No voice server contacts on Xpilot, AFV did not help.
Did you had the same ?
Best wishes
Steff
Quote from: Hammerstan on Mon, 16 Nov 2020 10:06
I picked up my version of xView here
QuoteStill available via my dropbox link:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/j49mprhuqzmh8uf/XView.zip?dl=0
Cheers,
AlexB
Large cities with Ortho4XP/ORBX TrueEarth + add on airport scenery (eg KLAX, KSLC, KABQ, KORD, YSSY) all work fine reporting good FPS in Vulkan XP11.50 (30-50fps on multi 4K monitors with GTX2080S; 50-70fps on single monitor GTX1080). Over 70fps in the air with clear skies.
I have also switched to XPilot for VATSIM which is rendering aircraft traffic (I had to "Reset Networking Configuration" on XP11's Settings|Network page to get it working). Unfortunately the ground speed reporting issue still isn't fixed.
Thanks that's pretty good. What is your CPU and XP11 settings?
I'm hoping to only have to buy 1 new PC rather then 3!
CPU: i7-8700k
Graphic settings: Visual Effects: High (HDR); Texture Quality: High; Antialiasing: 2xSSA+FXAA, Anisotropic Filtering: 4x, World Objects: Medium: Reflections Detail: Low; Vsync off
Hi! I am also using PSX+X-Plane for scenery. Very nice. Anyhow to enhance the visual situations I just downloaded Traffic Global XP. It runs correctly when I use x-plane only. Once connected to PSX via x-view the situations change very often. For example within a minute the aircrafts next to me change from A330 to B747 from Asiana to JAL and so on. Does anybody know about the conflicts-is it an UDP Problem? Thank you for any help
Quote from: Captain_Crow on Tue, 17 Nov 2020 15:19
Hi Hammerstan,
I had problems using Xpilot when flying the PSX/XP11 combo. No voice server contacts on Xpilot, AFV did not help.
No I didn't have this issue. I'm using the latest version of xPilot which does not need AFV.
Thanks Hammerstan,
meanwhile it´s solved by itself in any way, I don`t know..:-)
Steff
I'm a new PSX user and started using Xview today. Mostly an easy experience. A couple things:
I understand mostly how the "PSX Plane" specifically is supposed to sync up with lights, flaps, etc. in PSX itself, though I have noticed the beacon and strobes don't seem to work on the model in X-Plane. Also, is there any other way to fly other liveries on this thing? I don't want to just fly United tulip livery 100% of the time, though I understand this is basically an old XP10 model meant to be a vague 747 representation within XP with working animations.
Before you ask, yes I plan to eventually do MSFS/WidePSX. As a new PSX'er though, I'm not quite ready to splurge on WidePSX.
Thanks.
Welcome on board Mike. You are right about the beacon and strobe lights, they don't work at my plane either.
I changed my livery by replacing the files of the livery in the airplane map.
Thanks Ton.
Edit: disregard I think my problem solved itself.
If the current QNH has been injected by a recent METAR download from the Internet, the baro pressure transition will be gradual, i.e. the new data will be focussed smoothly, not instantly. When that is the case, the zone page title is magenta instead of green. To focus the new data instantly, click something on the lower half of the zone page, e.g. cycle a windshear checkbox on and off.
Edits on the lower half of a zone page are applied instantly.
Edits in a METAR text field start a slow transition.
|-|ardy
I've been having another issue. I haven't been able to connect to Vatsim/xPilot. Is there a special trick to do this? When I open up xPilot and connect to the network, there are only dashes through the boxes where the radio freqs would be (in the xpilot client). Plane is fully powered up in PSX, and connected to XP in xView.
Quote from: Hammerstan on Wed, 18 Nov 2020 10:46
CPU: i7-8700k
Graphic settings: Visual Effects: High (HDR); Texture Quality: High; Antialiasing: 2xSSA+FXAA, Anisotropic Filtering: 4x, World Objects: Medium: Reflections Detail: Low; Vsync off
Hi, I am a novice in X-Plane but a long time Flightsimmer (starting with the FS on a c64 some 40 years ago). Just restarted the hobby. I also commented on one of your YT channels as I am trying to replicate your setup. T
he difference at the moment is that I am running the two sims on two PC's (XP on a newly built Win10 high end machine and PSX on an older WIn7 machine). I get everything to run (with some of the reported quirks of airplane orientation at startup) and nose diving issues (it seems to help to switch off the Boost Server to remedy that too).
What I really don't understand now is how to get the visual? I have both PC's connected to one screen and have to switch between the two. So, I get a screen in X-Plane (with the rather old XP-10 747) or I get a screen with PSX. But I can't get the outside view to show on the Win7 PC or the PSX Cockpit to show on the Win 10 PC. I seem to misunderstand the concept. I know you are running on one PC, so I assume you somehow overlay the two program screens. But shouldn't it also work with two PC's?
Any tip I would be thankful for.
Stay safe!
Alexander
Quote from: a_wassermann on Sat, 30 Jan 2021 09:31
Quote from: Hammerstan on Wed, 18 Nov 2020 10:46
CPU: i7-8700k
Graphic settings: Visual Effects: High (HDR); Texture Quality: High; Antialiasing: 2xSSA+FXAA, Anisotropic Filtering: 4x, World Objects: Medium: Reflections Detail: Low; Vsync off
Hi, I am a novice in X-Plane but a long time Flightsimmer (starting with the FS on a c64 some 40 years ago). Just restarted the hobby. I also commented on one of your YT channels as I am trying to replicate your setup. T
he difference at the moment is that I am running the two sims on two PC's (XP on a newly built Win10 high end machine and PSX on an older WIn7 machine). I get everything to run (with some of the reported quirks of airplane orientation at startup) and nose diving issues (it seems to help to switch off the Boost Server to remedy that too).
What I really don't understand now is how to get the visual? I have both PC's connected to one screen and have to switch between the two. So, I get a screen in X-Plane (with the rather old XP-10 747) or I get a screen with PSX. But I can't get the outside view to show on the Win7 PC or the PSX Cockpit to show on the Win 10 PC. I seem to misunderstand the concept. I know you are running on one PC, so I assume you somehow overlay the two program screens. But shouldn't it also work with two PC's?
Any tip I would be thankful for.
Stay safe!
Alexander
So just to confirm you have one monitor and two computers connected to that one monitor, and you wish to have the screen display output from both computers?
If this is the case, I'm afraid you have misunderstood things. If not, I've misunderstood things :P
If what I've written is correct, this won't work. With some certain exceptions that are of no concern here, a computer screen cannot display input from two sources at once. It is one or the other.
What the Xplane - PSX connector does is takes information from PSX and instructs XPlane to position itself to mirror PSX. .
What you need to do is either:
- Get another monitor and have each computer going to its own monitor and break things up that way; or
- Run everything on one computer.
Your new Windows 10 machine, if it is "high spec" as you've said, would be more than powerful enough to run both. I ran XPlane11 and PSX on one computer without it breaking a sweat and that one is 4 or 5 years old.
What I suggest is you set up PSX to take up the bottom half of your screen and XPlane to take up the upper half. You can use a program called "Borderless gaming" to tell Xplane to run without a border around it.
Then on your other computer you can connect it to PSX across the network and get it to display the overhead, comms etc panels.
Anthony
Quote from: metalmike on Sat, 30 Jan 2021 00:31
I've been having another issue. I haven't been able to connect to Vatsim/xPilot. Is there a special trick to do this? When I open up xPilot and connect to the network, there are only dashes through the boxes where the radio freqs would be (in the xpilot client). Plane is fully powered up in PSX, and connected to XP in xView.
Just reporting that I figured it out. I didn't realize I had to start the dummy PSX Plane in XP 'with engines running'.
Quote from: a_wassermann on Sat, 30 Jan 2021 09:31
I also commented on one of your YT channels as I am trying to replicate your setup.
My twitch and youtube videos involve post production mixing of the PSX and XP11 displays via OBS. If you wish to overlay XP11 visuals on PSX during "game play" you will have to run them both on the same PC per the previous post.
Thanks, I had realized that I was misled. It was actually clear when I tried to imagine that the 60FPS video should be transferred through LAN from one PC to the other. I had already done what you proposed, I setup to run PSX on my X-Plane PC. And yes, it is powerful enough to do that.
I kind of moved the display setup of PSX to the bottom and moved the view from the cockpit in X-Plane to the top. It is not such an immersive feeling as flying a 747 in X-Plane. But it worked.
Unfortunately X-Plane had issues when I flew without PSX. I actually couldn't get my Tolles Airbus 321 to act as before. So I had to re-install everything. Quite a nightmare actually. So atm I will fly the PSX without X-Plane views. I will investigate this again with MS FS. But first I will enjoy both planes for a while.
Thanks again.
Quote from: a_wassermann on Tue, 2 Feb 2021 19:47
Unfortunately X-Plane had issues when I flew without PSX. I actually couldn't get my Tolles Airbus 321 to act as before. So I had to re-install everything. Quite a nightmare actually. So atm I will fly the PSX without X-Plane views. I will investigate this again with MS FS. But first I will enjoy both planes for a while.
Thanks again.
You will not have those issues with other aircraft if instead of dropping the plugin that comes with the xview 744 into the main Resources\Plugins folder you drop it into the spcecific xview 744 Plugins folder under Aircraft.
That way it'll only get loaded when you select that aircraft for a PSX with XP Visuals session.
Could anyone share the xview file? If i go to the website i get Domain Holding Page. I need it for xplane 11
Quote from: florismulock on Sun, 16 May 2021 15:09
Could anyone share the xview file? If i go to the website i get Domain Holding Page. I need it for xplane 11
Here it is...you'll find three versions of this file..don't know which version is the most recent.
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/k2ankzr6876an1e/AAAOnYhG2n7PdYtWdhG1QgJKa?dl=0
thank you!
Evening all, I'm having an issue networking X-Plane and PSX.
Can anyone tell me whereI find X-View notepad?
Is it located within PSX or X-Plane, or is it a separate download.
From reading the thread above, I suspect I need to correct the file to read :-
SETTINGS PATH="D:\X-Plane 11"
Kind regards,
Steve.
Quote from: 744 on Sat, 17 Jul 2021 22:03
Evening all, I'm having an issue networking X-Plane and PSX.
Can anyone tell me whereI find X-View notepad?
Is it located within PSX or X-Plane, or is it a separate download.
From reading the thread above, I suspect I need to correct the file to read :-
SETTINGS PATH="D:\X-Plane 11"
Kind regards,
Steve.
It should be in X-Plane's root folder.
The Plugin folder should be placed inside the XView 744 if you don't want to mess around with other X-Plane aircraft when not using it with PSX. If you place the plugin in X-Plane's main / General plugin folder it'll affect all loaded aircraft from there on each time you load X-Plane ( 10 or 11 ).
Thanks for the reply Jcomm.
I have found it, but still no success getting it to work.
Does this look correct? Not sure if the relay address should be changed. I have run the RELAY ADDRESS with 192.168.1.90 but it made no difference.
HEADER = "XView Configuration File Sat Oct 18 19:20:18 2014"
SETTINGS_PATH = "D:\X-Plane 11"
BOOST_ADDRESS = "192.168.1.90 : 10749" ; IP address
MAIN_ADDRESS = "192.168.1.90 : 10747" ; IP address
RELAY_ADDRESS = "127.0.0.1 : 10740" ; IP address
RELAY_BOOST_DATA = FALSE ; Set to true if XView relays boost data
SMOOTH_TRAJECTORY = FALSE ; Extrapolate between PSX updates (default: FALSE)
DO_ANIMATIONS = TRUE ; Animate external parts, eg gear, etc(default: TRUE)
DO_LIGHTS = TRUE ; Animate lights (default: TRUE)
DO_WEATHER = TRUE ; Set true if PSX sets X-Plane weather
DO_COMMS = TRUE ; Set true if PSX sets X-Plane comms
DO_TIME = TRUE ; Set true if PSX sets X-Plane time
SIDE_VIEWS = FALSE ; Set TRUE to allow PSX to set X-Plane view angle
USE_BOOST_SERVER = TRUE ; Set to TRUE to use Boost server - the normal setting
PSX_TRAFFIC = 3 ; Set to the number of traffic planes you want driven by PSX (max 7)
USE_PSX_TRAFFIC = FALSE ; Set true if PSX drives the traffic aircraft
USE_XP_TRAFFIC = FALSE ; Set true if XP drives the traffic aircraft
INJECT_ELEVATION = TRUE ; Set to true to send scenery elevation to Main server
I'm running X-Plane 11 on an iMac with Big Sur V11.4
PSX >Preferences>Basics
Host Address 192.168.1.90
Port 10747
Network>Main
The main server
Boost server : Started listening for client
X-Plane>Network>Receiving Data From
IP 192.168.1.90 Port 10747
No incoming data
Accept incoming connections : On
Are you running PSX on the same or another computer?
As Ton asked, if that's the case, please change all of the addresses in the configuration file to 127.0.0.1
Firstly, thank you for the reply. Always appreciated.
Yes, I'm using just the one computer. An iMac.
I've changed the file in X-View as below, but my PSX now defaults to 192.168.1.90
I'm afraid still no success.
With my apologies, if computer science was a church, I'd be at the back of the congregation. I thought all the IP addresses between PSX, X-View and X-Plane 11 should be the same? No?
HEADER = "XView Configuration File Sat Oct 18 19:20:18 2014"
SETTINGS_PATH = "D:\X-Plane 11"
BOOST_ADDRESS = "127.0.0.1 : 10749" ; IP address
MAIN_ADDRESS = "127.0.0.1 : 10747" ; IP address
RELAY_ADDRESS = "127.0.0.1 : 10740" ; IP address
RELAY_BOOST_DATA = FALSE ; Set to true if XView relays boost data
SMOOTH_TRAJECTORY = FALSE ; Extrapolate between PSX updates (default: FALSE)
DO_ANIMATIONS = TRUE ; Animate external parts, eg gear, etc(default: TRUE)
DO_LIGHTS = TRUE ; Animate lights (default: TRUE)
DO_WEATHER = TRUE ; Set true if PSX sets X-Plane weather
DO_COMMS = TRUE ; Set true if PSX sets X-Plane comms
DO_TIME = TRUE ; Set true if PSX sets X-Plane time
SIDE_VIEWS = FALSE ; Set TRUE to allow PSX to set X-Plane view angle
USE_BOOST_SERVER = TRUE ; Set to TRUE to use Boost server - the normal setting
PSX_TRAFFIC = 3 ; Set to the number of traffic planes you want driven by PSX (max 7)
USE_PSX_TRAFFIC = FALSE ; Set true if PSX drives the traffic aircraft
USE_XP_TRAFFIC = FALSE ; Set true if XP drives the traffic aircraft
INJECT_ELEVATION = TRUE ; Set to true to send scenery elevation to Main server
Hi,
Last week I had the same problem after buying a new W10 computer. I have PSX and XP running on the same machine and after some fiddling with the Xview config this worked for me.
HEADER = "XView Configuration File Sat Jul 17 10:14:01 2021"
SETTINGS_PATH = ""
BOOST_ADDRESS = "127.0.0.1 : 10749" ; IP address
MAIN_ADDRESS = "127.0.0.1 : 10747" ; IP address
RELAY_ADDRESS = "127.0.0.1 : 10740" ; IP address
RELAY_BOOST_DATA = FALSE ; Set to true if XView relays boost data
SMOOTH_TRAJECTORY = FALSE ; Extrapolate between PSX updates (default: FALSE)
DO_ANIMATIONS = TRUE ; Animate external parts, eg gear, etc(default: TRUE)
DO_LIGHTS = TRUE ; Animate lights (default: TRUE)
DO_WEATHER = TRUE ; Set true if PSX sets X-Plane weather
DO_COMMS = TRUE ; Set true if PSX sets X-Plane comms
DO_TIME = TRUE ; Set true if PSX sets X-Plane time
SIDE_VIEWS = TRUE ; Set TRUE to allow PSX to set X-Plane view angle
USE_BOOST_SERVER = TRUE ; Set to TRUE to use Boost server - the normal setting
PSX_TRAFFIC = 1 ; Set to the number of traffic planes you want driven by PSX (max 7)
USE_PSX_TRAFFIC = FALSE ; Set true if PSX drives the traffic aircraft
USE_XP_TRAFFIC = TRUE ; Set true if XP drives the traffic aircraft
INJECT_ELEVATION = TRUE ; Set to true to send scenery elevation to Main server
Yep,
Ton also suggests using the same 127.0.0.1 for all addresses since you're running it all on the same PC.
Where did you drop the plugin ?
Quote from: jcomm on Sun, 18 Jul 2021 11:57
Yep,
Ton also suggests using the same 127.0.0.1 for all addresses since you're running it all on the same PC.
Where did you drop the plugin ?
And I also left the path settings out....that is the main difference
I put the plugin into:-
X-Plane 11 > Resources > PluginAdmin> 64> (Win.XPL)
Thee was already an file named Win.xpl, which I removed and replaced with the plugin. I then renamed XView64.xpl to win.xpl.
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With X-Plane 11 Settings > Network > UDP Ports I now have a UPnP warning: No UPnP-capable gateway found. Should I uncheck the box for "USE UPnP for IPv4 port forwarding" ?
The path should be: X-Plane 11 > Resources >Plugins>Xview> 64
I am afraid you deleted/overwrote the wrong win.xpl in Pluginadmin. Both can be the cause you cannot connect to Xview/Xp. Furthermore you don't need the network connection in XP to connect to PSX. But you maybe you have enabled it for other reasons
It's been a long time since I last used xp + psx, but one of the things I did, mentioned in my previous post, was placing the plugin folder taht comes with the xview 744 inside of the aircraft plugin folder itself.
Placing the pluging in the Main plugin floder of XP11 makes it active when you load the sim, and you then have to manually disable it. If you want to use XP with other aircraft this is not good...
Quote from: jcomm on Sun, 18 Jul 2021 14:18
It's been a long time since I last used xp + psx, but one of the things I did, mentioned in my previous post, was placing the plugin folder taht comes with the xview 744 inside of the aircraft plugin folder itself.
Placing the pluging in the Main plugin floder of XP11 makes it active when you load the sim, and you then have to manually disable it. If you want to use XP with other aircraft this is not good...
I see, I only use it as scenery generator and I think the default path works best than
Thanks again Ton, still no joy I'm afraid.
However, Re Plugin
X-Plane is now showing the 747 JRollon Plugin (PSX Plane), however it does have a " ? " over the icon but it does load.
I went back to drop box and downloaded the following:-
XView(3).zip XView(5).zip & XView Release 1.2.zip
I've tried each one individually, then deleting and reloading, but still no success :-(
All the files and XPlane are configured with the IP address 127.0.0.1 but PSX always defaults back to 192.168.1.90
I've also tried to change my iMacs IP address to 127.0.0.1 but it will not accept an IP address starting 127.....(The first quad of the value entered cannot be 127)
Therefore my TCP/IP > Configure IPv4 > Using DHCP > is 192.168.1.90
Current setting is:-
X-View.CFG
HEADER = "XView Configuration File Sat Jul 17 10:14:01 2021"
SETTINGS_PATH = ""
BOOST_ADDRESS = "127.0.0.1 : 10749" ; IP address
MAIN_ADDRESS = "127.0.0.1 : 10747" ; IP address
RELAY_ADDRESS = "127.0.0.1 : 10740" ; IP address
RELAY_BOOST_DATA = FALSE ; Set to true if XView relays boost data
SMOOTH_TRAJECTORY = FALSE ; Extrapolate between PSX updates (default: FALSE)
DO_ANIMATIONS = TRUE ; Animate external parts, eg gear, etc(default: TRUE)
DO_LIGHTS = TRUE ; Animate lights (default: TRUE)
DO_WEATHER = TRUE ; Set true if PSX sets X-Plane weather
DO_COMMS = TRUE ; Set true if PSX sets X-Plane comms
DO_TIME = TRUE ; Set true if PSX sets X-Plane time
SIDE_VIEWS = TRUE ; Set TRUE to allow PSX to set X-Plane view angle
USE_BOOST_SERVER = TRUE ; Set to TRUE to use Boost server - the normal setting
PSX_TRAFFIC = 1 ; Set to the number of traffic planes you want driven by PSX (max 7)
USE_PSX_TRAFFIC = FALSE ; Set true if PSX drives the traffic aircraft
USE_XP_TRAFFIC = TRUE ; Set true if XP drives the traffic aircraft
INJECT_ELEVATION = TRUE ; Set to true to send scenery elevation to Main server
I'm just wondering if its a SETTINGS PATH issue (I'm booting 11 Plane of my desktop) or it's an IP address problem?
I will say, I'm now way outside my comfort zone, so if this is coming across as being dumb, then I can only apologise as a CRI app in KJFK 13L with 180/35 is simple compared to this !
QuoteAll the files and XPlane are configured with the IP address 127.0.0.1 but PSX always defaults back to 192.168.1.90
Have you tried "localhost" in the preferences basic screen?
Hi Ton, yes PSX > Preferences > Basics > Main Network: This client connects to: localhost on port 10747
This client reconnects after server error
This client get layout selection commands
Allow METAR files downloaded from Internet
So I've replaced "localhost" with "127.0.0.1" but still, nothing....
Let's get back to files you need for install (most of them are in V1.2)
Aircraft map: it contains the PSX plane. The map "heavy" needs to be installed in the aircraft map between the default aircraft
Resources map:The Xview plugin ( see previous posting)
Xview: CFG file
Xviewdebug: Txt doc (BTW does it have content?)
Xviewlog: txt doc (BTW does it have content?)
These are the files you need, the rest is setting. What are your X-Plane graphic settings? with or without Vulkan. Does the sim work as a standalone and can you fly other aircraft?
QuoteThis client reconnects after server error
This client get layout selection commands
Allow METAR files downloaded from Internet
Where do you see this errors?
1) When PSX start, check on Network menu if PSX is the Main server and if the Boost is listening to clients (you should see the button "STOP")
2) See in Preferences > Basics if "Start with main server on" and "Start with boost server on" is selected.
Check under Main network you have the following inputs:
"This client connects to: (inside the square) localhost
"On port" : 10747
Check if box is selected : "This client reconnects after server error"
My configuration is:
XView.cfg : on the MAIN X-Plane 11 folder
win.xpl : is located : X-Plane 11>Resources>plugins>XView>64
Create a new XView.cfg file by copying my settings, and put it on the MAIN X-Plane 11 folder.
HEADER = "XView Configuration File Tue May 25 02:01:33 2021"
SETTINGS_PATH = ""
BOOST_ADDRESS = "127.0.0.1 : 10749" ; IP address
MAIN_ADDRESS = "127.0.0.1 : 10747" ; IP address
RELAY_ADDRESS = "127.0.0.1 : 10740" ; IP address
RELAY_BOOST_DATA = FALSE ; Set to true if XView relays boost data
SMOOTH_TRAJECTORY = FALSE ; Extrapolate between PSX updates (default: FALSE)
DO_ANIMATIONS = TRUE ; Animate external parts, eg gear, etc(default: TRUE)
DO_LIGHTS = TRUE ; Animate lights (default: TRUE)
DO_WEATHER = TRUE ; Set true if PSX sets X-Plane weather
DO_COMMS = TRUE ; Set true if PSX sets X-Plane comms
DO_TIME = TRUE ; Set true if PSX sets X-Plane time
SIDE_VIEWS = FALSE ; Set TRUE to allow PSX to set X-Plane view angle
USE_BOOST_SERVER = TRUE ; Set to TRUE to use Boost server - the normal setting
PSX_TRAFFIC = 1 ; Set to the number of traffic planes you want driven by PSX (max 7)
USE_PSX_TRAFFIC = FALSE ; Set true if PSX drives the traffic aircraft
USE_XP_TRAFFIC = FALSE ; Set true if XP drives the traffic aircraft
INJECT_ELEVATION = TRUE ; Set to true to send scenery elevation to Main server
Eventually....see if updating Xplane "restore" (maybe) the file you inadvertently deleted.
Just additional info concerning IP addresses.
A 192.168.x.y address typically is that of the computer as seen from the router it is connected to. You need this address if you want to connect to the computer from another computer in the network. In your case, that is not so.
The 127.0.0.1 address, or anything starting with 127., is a very special address also called "localhost". It points always to the same computer, itself. You can use it only if all your programs run on the same machine. Because it always points to itself, your computer will not accept it as the address that is going to be used by other computers. That would never work, everybody is then pointing at itself.
Since the PSX display does not know whether you are going to connect from another computer or from the same computer, it tells you the external address. Otherwise it would always say 127.0.0.1 anyway which is less helpful.
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There usually is yet another IP address in play, which is your worldwide external (home) IP address, as given to you by your internet service provider. This IP address is only useful if other people want to connect to your PSX setup from outside your home network. For now this definitely is not what you want.
Hoppie
Thanks for the info Hoppie & Ton, very much appreciate the replies.
Having spent the day trying to configure PSX + X-Plane for scenery, I notice that the installation user guide for XView is for Version10 64-BIT, and I'm running X-Plane Version 11.
I've tried to download version 10, but X-Plane won't load the X-Plane 10 Installer app as I'm running macOS Big Sur V11.4.
Could it be a compatibility issue installation difference between X-Plane 11 & XView ?
I notice the install differences between Version 10 & Version 9
I had lots of problems with Xview but once I downloaded Navigraph Sim link it seemed to sort it out and everything connected. I'm using X-plane 11
Quote from: Hopkinsstevea on Sun, 18 Jul 2021 23:03
I had lots of problems with Xview but once I downloaded Navigraph Sim link it seemed to sort it out and everything connected. I'm using X-plane 11
Are you running on IOS or Windows ?
I found the Navigraph link for Simlink, unfortunately "Navigraph Charts.app" can't be opened because Apple cannot check it for malicious software. Simlink is included within the charts app, but you can download it separately for windows. :(
Thanks again, but I think I've reached a dead end. I've reloaded X-Plane 11 and started the X-View Process several times today, all without success. Below is my latest X-Plane Network information.
X-Plane > Network > Receiving Data From >
An external visuals machine (192.168.1.9) that incorrectly thinks t... 51 seconds ago
I'm using Windows
Xview is 100% compatible with XL 11.55
.) @744, are you starting the Main and Boost servers in PSX ?
.) How does your path from the root of X-Plane to the XView plugin folder look like ?
.) How does your Xview 744 folder path from the root of X-Plane look like ?
Quote from: Ton van Bochove on Sun, 18 Jul 2021 23:26
Xview is 100% compatible with XL 11.55
Thanks Ton, so are you saying - just load it the same as for X-Plane Version 10 ?
From below, which one would you recommend?
XView(3).zip XView(5).zip & XView Release 1.2.zip
Are you using PSX and XPlanr on IOS ?
If that's the case, I think that there was a specific IOS file that had yo be placed somewhere on XPlane.
It is called "mac.xpl"... it is included on the XVIEW Release 1.2.zip on the Dropbox link you mentioned...
Actually, here is a link to my Dropbox with the version I mentioned:
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/k2ankzr6876an1e/AAAOnYhG2n7PdYtWdhG1QgJKa?dl=0
Check if you find this file and if not, download the "XVIEW Releqse 1.2.zip" file....it is there.
Let me know.
Quote from: Swiso on Sun, 18 Jul 2021 23:40
Quote from: Hopkinsstevea on Sun, 18 Jul 2021 23:23
I'm using Windows
Are you using PSX and XPlanr on IOS ?
If that's the case, I think that there was a specific IOS file that had yo be placed somewhere on XPlane.
It is called "mac.xpl"... it is included on the XVIEW Release 1.2.zip on the Dropbox link you mentioned...
Actually, that Dropnkx is my Dropbox.
Check if yiu find this file and let me know.
I can send it to you, of you need.
I have the "mac.xpl" file but I cant find XPlanr. Where do you place "mac.xpl" within the directory ?
I am using IOS Big Sur.
Thanks for the link...
Quote from: 744 on Sun, 18 Jul 2021 23:48
Quote from: Swiso on Sun, 18 Jul 2021 23:40
Quote from: Hopkinsstevea on Sun, 18 Jul 2021 23:23
I'm using Windows
Are you using PSX and XPlanr on IOS ?
If that's the case, I think that there was a specific IOS file that had yo be placed somewhere on XPlane.
It is called "mac.xpl"... it is included on the XVIEW Release 1.2.zip on the Dropbox link you mentioned...
Actually, that Dropnkx is my Dropbox.
Check if yiu find this file and let me know.
I can send it to you, of you need.
I have the "mac.xpl" file but I cant find XPlanr. Where do you place "mac.xpl" within the directory ?
I am using IOS Big Sur.
Thanks for the link...
XPlabr is an error on my part...I meant XPLANE
Quote from: jcomm on Sun, 18 Jul 2021 23:34
.) @744, are you starting the Main and Boost servers in PSX ?
.) How does your path from the root of X-Plane to the XView plugin folder look like ?
.) How does your Xview 744 folder path from the root of X-Plane look like ?
I have some screen shots, but for some reason, I can't insert the images on this platform.
1. Yes, I'm starting both the Main and Boost servers in PSX.
2. X View sits within the main root directory, sitting underneath the X-Plane.app (launcher)
HEADER = "XView Configuration File Sat Oct 18 19:20:18 2014"
SETTINGS_PATH = ""
BOOST_ADDRESS = "127.0.0.1 : 10749" ; IP address
MAIN_ADDRESS = "127.0.0.1 : 10747" ; IP address
RELAY_ADDRESS = "127.0.0.1 : 10740" ; IP address
RELAY_BOOST_DATA = FALSE ; Set to true if XView relays boost data
SMOOTH_TRAJECTORY = FALSE ; Extrapolate between PSX updates (default: FALSE)
DO_ANIMATIONS = TRUE ; Animate external parts, eg gear, etc(default: TRUE)
DO_LIGHTS = TRUE ; Animate lights (default: TRUE)
DO_WEATHER = TRUE ; Set true if PSX sets X-Plane weather
DO_COMMS = TRUE ; Set true if PSX sets X-Plane comms
DO_TIME = TRUE ; Set true if PSX sets X-Plane time
SIDE_VIEWS = FALSE ; Set TRUE to allow PSX to set X-Plane view angle
USE_BOOST_SERVER = TRUE ; Set to TRUE to use Boost server - the normal setting
PSX_TRAFFIC = 3 ; Set to the number of traffic planes you want driven by PSX (max 7)
USE_PSX_TRAFFIC = FALSE ; Set true if PSX drives the traffic aircraft
USE_XP_TRAFFIC = FALSE ; Set true if XP drives the traffic aircraft
INJECT_ELEVATION = TRUE ; Set to true to send scenery elevation to Main server
3 Xview 744 folder path from the root of X-Plane look like ?
Laminar Research > PSX Plane > (747-400 United files)
Their is also another B747-400 folder, again all United
One potential issue, I cannot see the advertised user guide
\Aircraft\Heavy Metal folder, for PSXPlane.zip. I can only locate this folder through "finder" on the iMac. However, the files have populated within PSX Plane, within the X-Plane directory.
Any tips on how to upload a screen shot on this platform ?
Thanks.
Quote from: 744 on Sun, 18 Jul 2021 23:54
Quote from: jcomm on Sun, 18 Jul 2021 23:34
.) @744, are you starting the Main and Boost servers in PSX ?
.) How does your path from the root of X-Plane to the XView plugin folder look like ?
.) How does your Xview 744 folder path from the root of X-Plane look like ?
I have some screen shots, but for some reason, I can't insert the images on this platform.
Check page 35 of this thread, post #696, you should contact the member "foolen", he asked me for the same file and he use Mac OS so he should know better where to place that file.
Quote from: 744 on Sun, 18 Jul 2021 23:54
I have some screen shots, but for some reason, I can't insert the images on this platform.
See:
https://aerowinx.com/board/index.php?topic=1744.0
Quote from: 744 on Sun, 18 Jul 2021 23:40
Quote from: Ton van Bochove on Sun, 18 Jul 2021 23:26
Xview is 100% compatible with XL 11.55
Thanks Ton, so are you saying - just load it the same as for X-Plane Version 10 ?
From below, which one would you recommend?
XView(3).zip XView(5).zip & XView Release 1.2.zip
Yes it loads the same as for X-Plane version 10
The 3 files you mention are re-compiled files: some of them are complete and some of them not. Please look at my previous posting (https://aerowinx.com/board/index.php?topic=1615.msg70244#msg70244) and see what files are mentioned and than take the latest file from one of the three Xview maps
Hey,
perhaps somebody is still reading this topic. I am trying to get XView running with X-Plane 11.55. Boost server is installed, current PSX version, and I downloaded the XView files, set up flightmodel and cfg file. Connection in the settings of the xview plugin is reported as connected to main and boost server (running all localhost). Airport elevation sync is enabled. Now the weird thing happens:
X-Plane just puts me over a water body at coordinates roughly 0.87N, 0.17E and then spins the view wildly around all axes until I freeze PSX, at which point it just stays in a random orientation at these coordinates. As soon as I release the pause, it spins again, situation reload, repositioning etc do not help. I believe I had it working yesterday once, but that was with the fresh installed Xplane version, and I did an update this morning then onto v11.55. I know it was mentioned that v11.55 is XView compatible, so what might I missing? It seems a bit like XView either writes to the wrong datarefs or receives wrong data...? Debug and normal log only contain normal start/shutdown messages.
Could anyone take a look at KSEA 16R please? Started having issues with colliding with terrain that doesn't seem to be there, on KSEA 16R seem to land maybe 100ft off the runway, same if I position onto it. The other runways at the same airport appear fine, it's rather odd. Just tried a fresh copy of PSX and replacing the plugin with a fresh copy. Xplane 11.55.
Hi,
I just started fiddling around with XView. It already works rather nicely, I couldn't spot any glitches so far.
The only thing I experienced:
It seems as if the XView aircraft in X-Plane 11 always is hovering 4ft above ground when parked/taxiing.
Is there a configuration option available to adjust this difference, like an offset value or the like?
Thanks in advance!
Cheers
Yoshi
Quote from: mikeindevon on Tue, 8 Jul 2014 18:57...
Hello, sir
Where is the file and View manual?
Would you mind give me a link, thanks.
fatal damage problem x plane 12, what can I do????
If you have Gizmo installed delete it and see if that helps
once I deleted this no spinning
Steve
Quote from: YUHAO WANG on Sat, 11 Mar 2023 17:19Hello, sir
Where is the file and View manual?
Would you mind give me a link, thanks.
您好
I could send you with email.
Quote from: Victor126 on Mon, 19 Jun 2023 21:17fatal damage problem x plane 12, what can I do????
Keeping XView from sending the elevation data to PSX will probably cure the issue.
This can be done by setting INJECT_ELEVATION = FALSE in the XView.cfg.
This might have side effects regarding airport / runway elevations, but worth a try.
Regards
Joerg
Quote from: Victor126 on Mon, 19 Jun 2023 21:17fatal damage problem x plane 12, what can I do????
Go on using X-Plane 11 :-) There some threads on the forum on searching for a solution. If you could solve the fatal damage issue than there is the issue of injecting the weather in XP12
ok
Hi All,
Regarding mentioned files in the post attached it's work good with x-plane 11.55, Swiso thank you so much!
So, just for repainting fuselage and wings, are anybody positive expiriments?
Many thanks in advance!
Quote from: Swiso on Sun, 18 Jul 2021 23:40Are you using PSX and XPlanr on IOS ?
If that's the case, I think that there was a specific IOS file that had yo be placed somewhere on XPlane.
It is called "mac.xpl"... it is included on the XVIEW Release 1.2.zip on the Dropbox link you mentioned...
Actually, here is a link to my Dropbox with the version I mentioned:
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/k2ankzr6876an1e/AAAOnYhG2n7PdYtWdhG1QgJKa?dl=0
Check if you find this file and if not, download the "XVIEW Releqse 1.2.zip" file....it is there.
Let me know.
Quote from: Jelsomino on Sun, 25 Jun 2023 11:55Hi All,
Regarding mentioned files in the post attached it's work good with x-plane 11.55, Swiso thank you so much!
So, just for repainting fuselage and wings, are anybody positive expiriments?
Many thanks in advance!
You're welcome.
If you are looking for liveries, for the "PSX Plane" of X-Plane 11.55, have a look here:
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/79rkzkm7wp2d1oy/AAA7N5yzem886xl3C_P9BOOfa?dl=0
Just be sure to backup your "PSX Plane" folder and use this version instead.
It has 65 liveries.
Does anyone find the visuals stutter while using the plugin or are they as smooth as using the stock 747 without Aerowinx linked in? Taking off for example see the taxi signs and buildings judder back and fourth. I think I've tried a few copies of the plugin ver the last couple of months, but maybe it's been the same one over and over? Aerowinx is running at 68 FPS and Xplane usually at 60 locked so I don't think it's a performance issue as such.
If the shuddering is back and forth repeatedly, and it is not a stop and go motion picture, then it's more likely two positioning systems are fighting.
Quote from: Jeroen Hoppenbrouwers on Sat, 2 Sep 2023 11:49If the shuddering is back and forth repeatedly, and it is not a stop and go motion picture, then it's more likely two positioning systems are fighting.
That's interesting, like the internal XPlane motion taking control somehow? The aircraft moves along, but doesn't feel smooth and can visibly see object shake, not sure how to track that idea down but it's smooth without running XView.
Quote from: Peter Lang on Thu, 7 Sep 2017 11:39Hi Mike,
yesterday I encountered again an old problem which I often had with XP-10 and now with XP-11.
When flying along a certain time in one direction the scenery suddenly "realigns". That means a sudden bank (~<1°) and pitch (~2-3°) correction. It feels as if the pitch and bank alignement sometimes is not actualized for some reasons and then there is a sudden correction with noticable bigger changes.
To say it with other words: the position is continuously updated (mostly rather smooth, sometimes with stuttering) but the pitch/bank attitude alignment sometimes seems to be "forgotten" so that this bigger sudden alignement is necessary.
During this sudden change, the PSX PFD does not move = no changes in pitch and bank indication.
Peter
Did you ever find out what caused this? I see the same thing 5 miles out from Kai Tak and wonder if it's related to my other quirks.
I've been battling a visual jump for a while that generally seems to be on the approach. Could someone try out the situations loaded below, seem to replicate it 100% of the time.
Load zegssjumped.situ first, allow xplane to update
then load zegss7.situ, around 5.4 miles away on the ILS the heading in Xplane jumps, only about 1 degree but it is still a little odd?
https://file.io/dR8IqUyGSTeL
The heading within XPlane changes ever so slightly over a single frame. Seem to remember this was an issue with P3D years ago as the runways don't match Aerowinx database but I though Xplane this wasn't the case? Maybe my memory is fuzzy or I need to update something somewhere.
I was unable to download xView. I was interested in giving it a try with xPlane 12.
Quote from: Bluestar on Wed, 13 Dec 2023 23:36I was unable to download xView. I was interested in giving it a try with xPlane 12.
I wouldn't bother. XP11 is fine.
Quote from: Bluestar on Wed, 13 Dec 2023 23:36I was unable to download xView. I was interested in giving it a try with xPlane 12.
Should still be hosted on this dropbox link
https://aerowinx.com/board/index.php/topic,1615.msg69313/topicseen.html#msg69313
The see the problems with XP12 and View see
https://aerowinx.com/board/index.php/topic,6845.0.html