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Touch Screens or Mouse ?

Started by Rhetro, Wed, 26 Oct 2022 12:57

Rhetro

Hello All,
Looking at building a sim, and thought i'd start with the screens:

In my training at various flight schools through the years, I've NEVER seen the FTDs work -or work well enough to gain training of any merit. I'm referring to the touch-screens that were being used for cockpit and overhead panels. Now, to be fair, these FTDs did have some real controls in them, but we were always 'advised' to not put them in flight mode and to use them strictly as a procedural trainer, for flows etc. "don't put it in flight mode" or "try to fly it". But even then, the system would crash, and we'd have to call the sim tech to come out and reset everything.

Have people had success with touchscreens here?
Or do we still mouse around ?

thanks

Hardy Heinlin

Hello,

I don't know why those old FTDs at your flight schools crashed when in flight mode, but I can assure you that PSX doesn't have such problems. The PSX software is designed in a different way. It's extremely robust. Airlines use it for training and they love it for its reliability and precision.

You can use a mouse or touchscreens -- it's up to you. A touch has the same function as a mouse click. Special click areas for rotational selectors on the cockpit panels are described in the first chapter of the Aerowinx manual.

People had a lot of success with touchscreens over the past 8 years with PSX. Here are some examples:

https://aerowinx.com/html/users.html


Regards,

|-|ardy

glubbfreund

I also use touchscreens. Can confirm, no issues :)

Rhetro

wow. some of those screen shots / sims are amazing!

I'm guessing these flights schools are/were using software that is just NOT as robust as what you have going here, Hardy. Glad to hear that you have something really seems to work.

Time to do some homework and read up on this stuff.

thanks again, gentlemen.


Britjet

I have 6 touchscreens on my home sim.
Instant, correct response, rock solid. Never crashes.
Peter

Martin Baker


Jeroen Hoppenbrouwers

I recently encountered real MCDUs in a real aircraft that were upgraded from pushbutton models (as we know them) to full touch screens. Same size as standard MCDU, but 100% iPhone-style with thin borders. It works okay, but as always with touch screens, it is not the same. I am not a pilot but I would still prefer tactile feedback. I miskeyed several times just setting up PREF INIT and RTE. However I suppose these MCDUs are significantly cheaper to purchase and last significantly longer between defects.

Try playing organ on touchscreen manuals.

Hoppie

Avi

How do you operate them during turbulences?
Avi Adin
LLBG

Jeroen Hoppenbrouwers

Don't know. I suppose not... stick to the MCP and ride it out...


Gary Oliver

That really is a crime against aviation!

Hardy Heinlin

The next step is speech recognition.

"Computer! Set cost index 80!"

Beebeeb ... 80 set.

Jeroen Hoppenbrouwers

I'm sorry Hardy.
I can't do that.

Will

"I know I've made some very poor decisions recently, but I can give you my complete assurance that my work will be back to normal. I've still got the greatest enthusiasm and confidence in the mission. And I want to help you." -- FMC
Will /Chicago /USA

Rhetro

lol


"...this mission is too important for me to allow you to jeopardize it."