Worldflight 2025

[macroflight]

The WorldFlight 2025 route has been announced!

This year, voipmeister, Kurt, psx747atlas, Mancunius and Mawea (and maybe one or two others) will participate in the WorldFlight VATSIM event together (virtually in PSX shared cockpit).

If you have no idea what this is about, visit https://www.worldflight.center/.

If you want to participate, you can do so in the following ways:
- Fly one or more legs in PSX shared cockpit as an active pilot or observer
- Just hang out in the PSX shared cockpit discord server with us

If you are interested in joining us, contact me directly in Discord (mk3830).

We will use the team name PSCC ("PSX Shared Cockpit Crew") and the callsign BAW32N (one of the final scheduled BAW 744 flights, operated by G-CIVB).

We will be streaming a few legs (on https://www.twitch.tv/psx_shared_crew), including the first (Sydney to Auckland) and last (Brisbane to Sydney), thanks to the work of psx747atlas! If you tune in you should be able to watch the spectacle of CRM-over-Discord and PSX-over-Frankenrouter in action

[Kurt]

Thanks Macro - Signed up 👍😀

[Jeroen Hoppenbrouwers]

... while here ...

Hoppie's ACARS was originally developed purely for Worldflight.

With the trend ( ) of shared cockpits, I wonder whether I should develop a function specifically for shared cockpit avionics. ACARS clients that know they are a sidecart on a real client, in other words. Currently there is no good way to write a client that does not eat the messages it sees. The peek function was developed for this, but a few bad clients abuse it to replace the poll, "to be sure we always get all messages" (...). On top, ACARS correctly does not allow duplicate call signs.

How do existing shared cockpit pilots share the ACARS with the driving cockpit?


Hoppie

PS. I should get serious about completing the CPDLC PSX native client.

[macroflight]

How do existing shared cockpit pilots share the ACARS with the driving cockpit?

I have no idea. I never tried shared cockpit before I figured out how to do it in PSX.

An internet search turned up lots of information on shared cockpit and CPDLC, but nothing about combining the two.

PS. I should get serious about completing the CPDLC PSX native client.

Is there anything I can do to help?

[Jeroen Hoppenbrouwers]

At least for PSX native solutions (including Gary's BACARS), as long as the flying cockpit's ACARS client drives the PSX MCDUs, it all works automagically. It's the non-native solutions, for example that run in the linked MSFS/X-plane, that may need a workaround.

[Kurt]

PS. I should get serious about completing the CPDLC PSX native client.

Can't really argue with you on this

Thanks Hoppie

[Hardy Heinlin]

I'm not sure I understand the HACARS question. I can say this: The PSX server sends all CDU displays to the PSX clients. This includes CDU displays which are injected by add-ons into the PSX server. Vice versa, all CDU keyboard inputs on all PSX instances are shared within the PSX network; so, the PSX server gets them all and sends them to its add-on. PSX clients do not generate CDU displays; they get them from the PSX server. PSX clients just send their keyboard inputs (and all other switch events and USB events). In short words: Add-ons that use the main network don't require another connection to a PSX client. PSX clients can't be a main server anyway; they can only be a boost server.


|-|ardy

[Jeroen Hoppenbrouwers]

Yes, this is what I intended to say. As long as any HACARS client uses native PSX pilot interface elements, everything is fine. Just run one such client on the cockpit-flying and the cockpit-monitoring will take it as if it was PSX itself. Including pushing keys.

Hoppie

[skelsey]

... while here ...

Hoppie's ACARS was originally developed purely for Worldflight.

With the trend ( ) of shared cockpits, I wonder whether I should develop a function specifically for shared cockpit avionics. ACARS clients that know they are a sidecart on a real client, in other words. Currently there is no good way to write a client that does not eat the messages it sees. The peek function was developed for this, but a few bad clients abuse it to replace the poll, "to be sure we always get all messages" (...). On top, ACARS correctly does not allow duplicate call signs.

How do existing shared cockpit pilots share the ACARS with the driving cockpit?

Hi Hoppie,

Just to say that as somebody who does a lot of shared cockpit flying in MSFS (not so much in PSX) when not in a big sim, some sort of facility to permit all parties in this situation to receive ACARS/CPDLC etc messages would be excellent . At the moment it's not really possible to use CPDLC/PDC etc functions since, as you know, only the first client to hit the server gets all the messages and the other party doesn't get anything. The best one can do is literally share/read out the message which isn't exactly ideal!

[Hardy Heinlin]

only the first client to hit the server gets all the messages and the other party doesn't get anything

Do these messages not appear on the CDUs? Do they appear in another application outside PSX?

[Jeroen Hoppenbrouwers]

Yes this is all MSFS or other sim based, and those are not shared. None of this runs on/in PSX.

[macroflight]

Only 66 days to Worldflight!

You're still welcome to get in touch if you want to fly a leg or a dozen with other PSXers (see the first post in this thread).

A little WorldFlight inspiration from some Airbus fans Down Under: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vc-ReHhp6X4

[Jeroen Hoppenbrouwers]

Here's a 2006 memory  :-)

[Matt Sheil]

WoW   
Should see it now?

[voipmeister]

Here's a 2006 memory  :-)

That looks mighty impressive

Is it still alive?

[Roddez]

Is it still alive?

Yes, but a Hobo recently moved in...      

[voipmeister]

  

[macroflight]

59 days to WorldFlight...

If you want to fly some legs with us, you can now sign up for your favorite ones (and join the Discord server so we can keep in before and during WF). See the first post in this thread for details.

[macroflight]

I'm very pleased with the signup progress so far. This is going to be great. I know I need a little sleep now and then, otherwise I would grab the remaining gems for myself... but instead I'm offering them to you.

Cross the Andes and the Amazon? (SCEL Santiago - SBGR Sao Paulo - SBPV Porto Velho)

A relaxed cross-country in the land of the f...ixed transition level? (KDTW Detroit - KEWR Newark - CYHZ Halifax)

Zig-zag across the Med at M.90? (LIMC Milan - DAAG Algiers - LIRF Rome)

And I saved the best for last: a stunning daytime arrival into Hong Kong? (ROAH Naha Okinawa to VHHH Hong Kong)

[Jeroen Hoppenbrouwers]

VHHHreal or VHHHfake never mind just do it?     :-)