Worldflight 2024

[Gary Oliver]

Yep definitely a me problem not a hoppie problem :-)

[Kurt]

So what are PSX participants using as CPDLC client during worldflight - if I am correct the CDU page for ATC with logon etc is purely placebo when used with VATSIM and nothing entered there ever gets beyond PSX itself.

I tried to use PDC in BACARS but no clue if any controller ever received any of my PDC requests. I did however get a PDC in the vPilot application so I could depart YSSY for the first leg yesterday but as far as I understand it was a one way message to all pilots and not a result of a PDC request via (B)ACARS

I know there is no CPDLC-Vatsim functionality with PSX based on all the posts here in the forum but what are you fellow PSX'ers using instead then?

Thanks

Kurt
GTI74L on WF2024

[macroflight]

BACARS works fine for PDC via Hoppie's network. But not all VATSIM VACCs who use PDC use Hoppie's network, many use messages to the pilot client (e.g vPilot) instead.

CPDLC for enroute ATC is not available in BACARS.

When I want to use CPDLC for enroute ATC, I start BACARS with a config file that does not include my Hoppie login code. BACARS will then not connect to Hoppie's network (but can still fetch flight plans, ATIS, etc), and I can then use EasyCPDLC for both PDC and CPDLC

[Kurt]

CPDLC for enroute ATC is not available in BACARS.

When I want to use CPDLC for enroute ATC, I start BACARS with a config file that does not include my Hoppie login code. BACARS will then not connect to Hoppie's network (but can still fetch flight plans, ATIS, etc), and I can then use EasyCPDLC for both PDC and CPDLC

Thanks - I will explore that - even though it is outside PSX which I want to avoid as it ruins the immersion.. (Should have studied programming a bit better back in school - would love to code it myself but simply can´t..)

Cheers

[Jeroen Hoppenbrouwers]

... I am slowly warming up to the idea of crafting a native PSX client for Hoppie's ACARS ... that uses the PSX MCDUs ...

[Kurt]

... I am slowly warming up to the idea of crafting a native PSX client for Hoppie's ACARS ... that uses the PSX MCDUs ...

ooohhh - I somehow can´t think of a more qualified SME to work on this

opening other browserwindow ... buying hoppie several coffees

Cheers

[voipmeister]

... I am slowly warming up to the idea of crafting a native PSX client for Hoppie's ACARS ... that uses the PSX MCDUs ...

Are you a coffee /ko-fi/ addict by any chance, Hoppie? Asking for a friend 

[Bluestar]

Gary,

I was watching 47C on Simaware today.  It was showing 4 radios for 47C when I looked at the aircraft data.  When I look at my plane it was only showing one radio.  Can you explain how you get four radios to display? 

[Gary Oliver]

We run a custom version of the audio for VATSIM client in our sim which unfortunately isn't in a state (yet) to release for public use.

[voipmeister]

Gary, would it be possible to add Martinair (MPH) as a carrier to the Simfest planning portal?

[voipmeister]

I'm going to fly some of the legs this year.  For some reason the timing is wrong for me on a lot of the days. Last year I flew almost two-thirds of the legs.  But for some reason it appears that I'll be lucky to get in half of the legs which I guess is pretty good for a single pilot operation. 

Two-thirds of the leg is seriously impressive for one person. I did 21 and some partial legs last year, and that felt like one or two too many. "Should I make a proper lunch, go for a run, or do just one more leg...?"

I just finished my 18th WF2024 leg, so two-thirds or about half is quite impressive

[Jeroen Hoppenbrouwers]

... I am slowly warming up to the idea of crafting a native PSX client for Hoppie's ACARS ... that uses the PSX MCDUs ...

... Python library done!  Nice Saturday, after 10+ years of no client work...

For now, basic functions only: telex and information requests. But all done properly, so all scaffolding for a publishable library is there.

Maybe tomorrow I get the time to build a PSX MCDU interface for it. The scaffolding for that is already available but needs a good workout. This is perfect for that.

Rest of the week will be more challenging. Lately I have been frequenting Toulouse ... don't accuse me of moving to the Dark Side ...   :-)


Hoppie

[Bluestar]

I just finished my 18th WF2024 leg, so two-thirds or about half is quite impressive

I didn't make my goal this year.  I only was able to do 14 legs, 31.6 flight time, and 40.0 block time.  When you live 20 minutes from the nearest store and severe thunderstorms all week, plans change. 🤣 

During my flights Gary and 47C was always there.  I talked to Matts and Jim a couple of times.  Seb I'm sure I was around you, just didn't know your callsign. 

Hope to do better next year. 😊

[JRBarrett]

I didn't make my goal this year.  I only was able to do 14 legs, 31.6 flight time, and 40.0 block time.  When you live 20 minutes from the nearest store and severe thunderstorms all week, plans change. 🤣 

During my flights Gary and 47C was always there.  I talked to Matts and Jim a couple of times.  Seb I'm sure I was around you, just didn't know your callsign. 

Hope to do better next year. 😊

Bill, you seemed to be there every time I flew. I admire your stamina! I did a total of seven legs, and it was great fun. I watched the Simfest Twitch stream during my own flights and many other hours when I was not online myself.

Jim Barrett GTI 955

[MFarhadi]

... Python library done!  Nice Saturday, after 10+ years of no client work...

For now, basic functions only: telex and information requests. But all done properly, so all scaffolding for a publishable library is there.

Maybe tomorrow I get the time to build a PSX MCDU interface for it. The scaffolding for that is already available but needs a good workout. This is perfect for that.

Rest of the week will be more challenging. Lately I have been frequenting Toulouse ... don't accuse me of moving to the Dark Side ...  :-)


Hoppie

This has been one of the most exciting news this year!

[macroflight]

Hoppie: amazing progress on the CPDLC front!

Hoppie: Your network seems to have held up to WorldFlight, I didn't see any problems. Some controllers that advertised (Hoppie) PDC in the controller info were either not logged on or did not respond to PDC requests, but that happens on VATSIM even outside Worldflight too, so nothing you should be worried about.

PSX:ers on WorldFlight: I managed 17 full and some partial legs, fun but tired now, hope to see you next year!

[Kurt]

What an amazing worldflight - my first time joining flying and watching the streams - got to donate quite a lot of money to the simfest charity as I did not have any stream myself.

Next year I plan to join officially - just need to find some companions so we can fly the full schedule (only managed 8 legs this year) - already missing the simfest stream I constantly had running in the background most of the week.

I remember back in 2014 when PSX was released I had a shared flight experience with Hardy remote in Germany - worked absolutely brilliant so If I can't get any locals to join here in Denmark it could be done in a shared PSX environment with other PSX'ers in other countries.

Anyhow - off to send more coffee to Hoppie so we can have proper CPDLC next year

Cheers

[macroflight]

Somewhat related to Kurt's post: me and QuadFan managed to connect our sims today for our very first shared cockpit flight.

Surprisingly easy (thanks Hardy), and surprisingly good for a first attempt.

Maybe we could do something organized for WF2025? Perhaps not necessarily at the "stream 24/7 and collect money" level, but maybe a way for people to sign up for one or more legs, with or without shared cockpit or maybe even a real-life shared cockpit if Kurt and any willing locals join?

Anyone interested?

[JG]

This is a very interesting Idea. In a shared flight with 2 cockpits in different locations, how do you manage the Vatsim connection? Can you connect 2 clients to the same flight (very unlikely)....and how would you be sure the sent data to Vatsim matched and was in sync? Maybe the concept would only be possible with one connection to Vatsim....is there a way to get the Vatsim audio in and out of the other cockpit? Maybe a dedicated VOIP circuit between the 2 locations carrying received Vatsim to the remote cockpit and remote cockpit pilot audio back to the connected site?
A lot to think about, but a great idea.
Cheers, J.G.

[Steve - Browny]

You can connect to VATSIM as an observer so you get all the radio and aircraft information without showing the pilot you're sharing with and ATC doesn't see you on the radar. In vPilot I believe you put the shared pilot's callsign with a letter at the end while connecting with the option as Observer.

One would be the PSX server and the other connects, they both create a boost server for their own flight simulators to connect to VATSIM. Use discord or something to do voice.