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Started by nosrev16, Wed, 31 Jan 2024 07:34
Quote from: Magoo on Sun, 4 Feb 2024 12:11Wow, I'm glad I'm not flying with this guy!
Quote from: Martin Baker on Sun, 4 Feb 2024 23:40... if this crew had been flying Asiana 214 into SFO, the accident wouldn't have happened.
Quote from: MRFarhadi on Mon, 5 Feb 2024 02:39I believe, according to NTSB FDR Animation and Commentary which can be found Here, the main contributing factor to the departure from desired flight path was usage of FLCH SPD when intercepting the vertical flight path from above. The incorrect use of automation, accompanied with lack of situational awareness which was a direct result of not comprehensively understanding the FMA, especially HOLD annunciation in the A/T status column, led the aircraft into a low-energy state, just before the touchdown.
Quote from: DogsEarsUp on Mon, 5 Feb 2024 07:42Forgive uninformed comment, but... These may have been contributory factors - the fact remains that 3 professional pilots continued an un-stabilised approach and quite literally flew the thing into the ground. At any point, any one of them could have been monitoring airspeed, rate of descent, flightpath - the fact that they didn't strikes me as an absolute failure of airmanship - sorry to be harsh
Quote from: Bluestar on Tue, 6 Feb 2024 00:12I'm not going to be critical of the guy in the left seat. I've been there. We don't know what caused the missed approach and the experience level/training history of the guy in the right seat.
Quote from: https://www.flightglobal.comThe pilots made simultaneous inputs for 53s and for 12s the controls were desynchronised. Crew co-operation, says the inquiry, was "severely disrupted" with non-standard call-outs and no proper division of tasks.Analysis of the event shows the captain made nose-down inputs while the first officer made emphasised nose-up inputs. The aircraft's pitch reached a maximum of 24°, much higher than the typical 15° for a go-around.
Quote from: IefCooreman on Fri, 9 Feb 2024 18:01The left hand behaviour could be a former military instructor habit. I was told they tend to do that in the fighters but the big differences are 1) fighters train to fly on the limit and 2) it is not visible to the trainee (no mental effect).
Quote from: Bluestar on Mon, 12 Feb 2024 15:57From the video it appeared to him that the co-pilot was either new or had known issues.