X52 Joystick response. Yaw and Roll

[vnangli]

Forgive me if this thread has been discussed earlier..

I recently upgraded the hardware to X52 Hotas throttle and Joystick. I am back to square one understanding the joystick movements and how the PSX responds. Especially, I am having challenges with the ROLL and YAW motions.

Seems like the response is not linear. I am ROLLing or YAWing, especially during the final approach flying manually. Thats when I have noticed on my joystick that there is a zone within which the ROLL and YAW response is not linearly associated between the joystick and PSX. Is this something which has been discussed here before?

With the earlier 40$ Logitech joystick I had before, I had replaced the spring and put a less STIFF spring. This came with its own problems like the RUDDER would require constant calibration. Because the stick would slop around due to the spring stiffness. But the reason for me to put a lesser stiffness spring was to overcome the resistance during YAW and ROLL motion and make the response associated...

Any experiences? If not specific, any experiences in general about joystick to PSX interface and dealing with ROLL and YAW functions using joysticks  would be helpful to me to understand what I need to do.

[Hardy Heinlin]

I wouldn't use a stick to control the rudder pedals. It influences the aileron/elevator control and vice versa.

Also, the force of such gaming sticks can't be high enough. I wouldn't make them weaker. Real Boeing controls provide forces up to circa 40 kilogram.

You can check the linearity by watching the info tag in the top left corner of the PSX frame.


|-|ardy

[vnangli]

I wouldn't use a stick to control the rudder pedals.

Real Boeing controls provide forces up to circa 40 kilogram.

You can check the linearity by watching the info tag in the top left corner of the PSX frame.

|-|ardy

If not stick, there are three more spring actuated buttons (T1-T6) which have a "CENTER" position I will try if those work..

When you say forces up to 40 kilogram, is that the force applied at the rudders or that's the force pilot applies on the pedals?

Yes, info tag is where I found out the lack of linearity. This is also possibly due to the nature of the spring that the ROLL and YAW seem to be a little stiff till about a particular point. Thats where I noticed I wasnt able to achieve "SMOOTH and LINEAR" ROLL and YAW.

[Hardy Heinlin]

It's the force on the yoke and rudder pedals. They require a lot of human muscle force.

[vnangli]

Okay, it might sound a little funny..I may have partially solved my problem for SMOOTH roll and yaw...

On the X52, I had apply white lithium grease on the main shaft of the joystick where the spring is compressed against a DISH shape looking Plastic component. Basically, the conical shape of the plastic being pushed by the spring returns the shaft to CENTER position. So had to apply some lube on the center shaft....The movements have been a lot smoother...Or atleast better than before....

So, I thought of reporting back and share my learning for the day....Back to practice manual landing...

[cagarini]

VJ,

next time you're able to upgd, choose an inexpensive set with HAL sensors in the pitch / roll axis, like the T16000 which exists in single and HOTAS versions.

Mine has lasted more than any other POT stick I have ever had.

[vnangli]

like the T16000 which exists in single and HOTAS versions.

Mine has lasted more than any other POT stick I have ever had.

Can you please share the exact model number?? I might set aside my hobby money for it. Thank you