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PFPX Dispatch data for 747-400s

Started by Will, Wed, 1 Jul 2020 01:16

Will

PFPX is pretty comprehensive, but the 747-400 model files that I'm familiar with leave a few fields blank.



I'm wondering if anyone has any real-world data (or real-world opinions) about the empty boxes:

Take-Off Burn vs. Take-Off Time
Approach Burn vs. Approach Time
Go Around Burn
Min T/O Fuel
MinFuel at Dest

And then under operating cost:

Fixed/FlightHour
Var/FlightHour
Delay/Hour
Delay to

Does anyone who uses PFPX have any entries in these boxes?
What might be real-world values/uses?
Or are they ignored?
Comments?

Thanks.
Will /Chicago /USA

G-CIVA

Quote from: Will on Wed,  1 Jul 2020 01:16
PFPX is pretty comprehensive,

Min T/O Fuel

Ill leave the other detail up to the real world dispatchers. I have scoured my Singapore Airlines Cargo documentation & buried in the minutiae of the small print I found this nugget:

B744F Min T/O Fuel = 30,000kgs (66,139lbs)

I shall amend my PFPX SQC files ... for those that use these files ... do you want me to arbitarilly add these figures for all the PFPX files?
Steve Bell
aka The CC

kw2p

Hi Steve,
QuoteI shall amend my PFPX SQC files ... for those that use these files ... do you want me to arbitarilly add these figures for all the PFPX files?

Yes please and thanks for all your work creating and updating these files.

Cheers, Kenny

Ton van Bochove

Hi Steve,

Can you tell in what section of the manual(s) you found this information? I can try to find them in a manual of another airliner
Ton

G-CIVA

Quote from: Ton van Bochove on Wed,  1 Jul 2020 22:07what section of the manual(s) you found this information?

SIA B747F OPS Manual, Vol A Gen/Basic, Sect 8, Operating Procedures 8.6 Fuel Policy
Steve Bell
aka The CC

Ton van Bochove

Quote from: G-CIVA on Thu,  2 Jul 2020 10:13
Quote from: Ton van Bochove on Wed,  1 Jul 2020 22:07what section of the manual(s) you found this information?

SIA B747F OPS Manual, Vol A Gen/Basic, Sect 8, Operating Procedures 8.6 Fuel Policy

Atlas, Cargolux no fuel policy in the manuals
Ton

DougSnow

Its the time, fuel, and distance to and from 1500'. Most carriers dont put it in a performance profile in their systems and all is well...

Will

Will /Chicago /USA

G-CIVA

All the PFPX Aircraft files I make available for download have been arbitrarily amended with minimum take off fuel added, plus minimum RWY length & width details & fixed operating cost per hour (Circa USD $20k p/hr).
Steve Bell
aka The CC

Will

Very good! I'll take a look tonight.
Will /Chicago /USA