Where went my Charlie Papa NDB :-) ?

[cagarini]

Most of the time ( I'd say 99,5 % ) my PSX routes are circuits around LPPT, or between LPPT and LPMT or LPCS ( tricky this one... ).

Today, with the new Navdatabase installed, I tried my short leg between LPPT, departing Rw 03, and LPCS arriving Rw 35...

I tried to start by tunning the Caparica ( CP ) NDB first, into 3L in the MCDU, but couldn't ( ? ). It was accepted on 3R though: (for sure something I did wrong, just as picking an NDB from the list presented in the CDU when I tried to add it to my route - it "looked like" Caparica ( CP ) by looking at the Geographical coordinates, but was actually at 090 W, not 009 W...)



but strangely the needles did not move ( ?? ).

Then I tried to add CP as a waypoint to my route:



but couldn't find CP in either Pag1 1/2 or 2/2



Where went my Caparica NDB ?

[Hardy Heinlin]

On Instructor > Analysis > Navaid enter CP and you will see what's in the database.

You can enter any NDB frequency on the FMC's NAV RAD page in 3L as well as in 3R.
Not sure what you mean by "but couldn't"?

Both 3L and 3R do not accept "letter"-entries. Only NDB frequencies.

More and more NDBs are being removed from the planet. In the past 5 years about 1000 NDBs were removed -- while the amount of waypoints and airways is very much increasing.

[Markus Vitzethum]

Hi jcomm,

sounds okay to me:

According to
http://www.jeppesen.com/download/chart_notams/cen04.pdf , Issue date 01-Mar-2019,

CAPARICA NDB (CP) decmsnd. E LO-6/7C.
CAPARICA NDB (CP) HOLDING withdrawn.
E LO-6/7C.

your beloved NDB has been decomissioned and does not transmit anymore. The PSX 1903 NavDatabase seems to reproduce that correctly.

Offering my sympathies,
  Markus

[Jeroen Hoppenbrouwers]

Meh,

Was one of my "There it is!" beacons when visiting Da Beach. CP, unlike many locator beacons, was one of those several hundred Watt far-out-over-sea Atlantic coastal homing beacons, I believe.



Ah well. ESP still is there.

http://www.hoppie.nl/beacons/esp.html


Hoppie

who may have gained some weight in the 15 years since then

[cagarini]

Yeah....

Meanwhile I checked the IAP  :-)  It was actually "withdrawn" - This is terribly unfair !

And, yes Hardy, I was entering the frequency ( 389 ) not the ID, but it wasn't accepted during 3 tries - something I might have done wrong because I can't reproduce it...

Thank you guys!

( well, I'm fine with it - we don't use NDBs in teh glider, yet.... but the transponder is comming :-/ )