AVC is the voice client for VATSIM (File Required pls)

[Lau]

Hi,

Did not managed to dowload AVC, seems that all links are broken. Could anyone email me the file pls.

I am currently setting up my PC to fly online with :
PS13
747IPC
Broker
SB747
AVC... missing to be able to speak to the ATC

Thanks in advance for your kind help and assistance,

Lau

PS: Any tips on the setup are also welcome...

[Holger Wende]

Hello again Lau,

I have also spent some time to find out where AVC can be downloaded. But ovbiously all links (I found) have been disabled. So there seems to be no chance any more.

I am also not aware of the legal situation.
Allthough it was publically available, I vaguely remember having read that distribution was stopped due to copyright regulations.

What are the alternatives:

Well, you might think about joining IVAO (sorry VATSIM members   ).
The Teamspeak SW works stable and voice quality is great - allthough maybe less realistic (i.e. less distorted)?

If your compute power permits, you might want to couple MS FS to your PS1.3, then you could use SB for MS FS.

Regards, Holger

[Oscar Pacheco]

hi, i use roger wilco, i also search for the avc.

Oscar

[Zinger]

In order to connect to Vatsim, one needs a pilot client, commonly FSInn or Squawkbox, both incorporate voice clients. Not familiar with SB747 details. Current pilot client info on the new Vatsim site, still being updated with full content:
http://www.vatsim.net/pilots/pilotsclients/
Roger Wilco I believe allowed log-in to Vatsim voice rooms without VID and password. Due to numerous voice disturbances to ATC and pilots, it is either blocked or banned. I think the AVC situation is similar.

If someone can show me that Vatsim use of AVC is allowed, I'll upload AVC.

[Zinger]

Ok, found it on the allowed software list:
http://cid-36d3b117ac503345.office.live.com/browse.aspx/.Public
First to successfully D/L it pls advise, enjoy!

[Lau]

Dear Holger and Zinger,

I can only say "thank you very much" as I have so much reading to setup all this addons, this without mentioning all the procedures involved with the flying... But I guess all of this is part of the learning curve before the big break day!

As a newbie I am definitely great full to this forum for all the support and to the authors of the addons and of curse PS for their achievement !

Thank you!

Lau

[Lau]

Dear Zinger and Holger,

Ok, I have followed the AVC setup (I think )

Set the pilot info VATSIM ID'S, same pilot callsing as in SB747 etc...

Start sequence :

1 Broker
2 SB747
3 WintWY
4 747IPC
5 AVC

When doing so I can not see any interaction in between SB747 and AVC

When selecting "connect" on AVC it still requires for me to manually input Server/Room when, in the manual it precisely says that with SB747 this input is not required as long as the Pilot Info is filled properly in AVC.

So one more mystery for me and deeply hope that it will be as easy to solve than the WinTWY prob I had earlier   :roll:

Thanks in advance for your kind comments on this topic.


With best regards,

Lau

[Jeroen Hoppenbrouwers]

Let SB747 know where AVC.EXE is and it will kick it into operation all by itself. Don't use anything except Broker and SB747 (and AVC) to do the early experiments. Your B744 will be in the Gulf of Guinea. No problem  

It WILL be a challenge to run everything on one computer, simply because you don't see anything at all. Getting an old, abandoned machine from the neighbours and wiring them together is much, much easier.


Jeroen

[Lau]

Dear Jeroen,

AVC says when selecting connect "pls enter server and a room"

I did show SB747 the path for AVC under "Path voice prg"

As I said, under pilot info I filled all the requested info...

Anything I am still missing ?

Best regards,

Lau

PS : I will eventually work on a better setup, specially when I am sure, I will see the limitations as you explained above  :roll:    I did my first flight with the WinTWY addon, surely couple of my wheels went in to the grass, but hey they don't pay much attention to it anyway at EGPF   I will keep my distance to airplanes taxiing and try to work my way around for some time with this setup. Cheers! This is real IMC even on the ground  

[Jeroen Hoppenbrouwers]

Don't select connect! SB747 will do this for you!

Did you read the SB747 manual page about the dot commands? All the .rw commands also work for AVC, there's an abstraction layer in between.


Jeroen

[Lau]

Hi Jeroen,

Yes had a look on the manual after your post, sow something about .commands for text msg's.

With just the Broker, SB747 and AVC :
Finally managed to hear and talk with ATC, however I did this by typing a Server/Room address (e.g. rw.liveatc.net/egpk_twr) I can switch channel by typing other addresses like : same but ending by _dep or _atis etc...

With all of the above prog + PS
Tried to do as you said (certainly the wrong way :oops: ) to start Broker, SB747, AVC and PS. The idea was to tune frequencies from the cockpit and hopefully get AVC and SB747 tuning to the right server, but unfortunately no effect.

I am interested in the solution as a matter of curiosity, but I think I will stop the online flying while I setup MFS scenery. Yes WinTWY has differences that does not allow me to taxi with other MFS pilots. I see them off track on the taxiway and so do they... Result is not getting too many friends on VATSIM even on a stand still position      I will remember how welcoming are our ATC friends in EGPK  

Cheers,

Lau

[Jeroen Hoppenbrouwers]

It will help if you understand what happens internally in the system.

There is no technical direct link between a controller's call sign and the server/room on a voice server. You cannot just predict where the voice is if you know the call sign.

So, the controller must put his voice server/room in his ATIS. This is done in a specific way, so that men and machines can read it. You likely did this yourself, and then typed the server/room directly into AVC first.

The .rw command of SB747 allows you to type the voice server/room into PS1 or SB747 and will then set up AVC for you.

By switching the voice system of SB747 into autotuning mode, SB747 will read the controller's ATIS for you. It works by pulling in the ATIS of all controllers in range ahead of time, and linking the voice server/room to the frequency of the controller. Then, if you retune the radio in PS1, SB747 will look up the associated voice server/room and quickly retune AVC. Manual, page 23.

The trick is that you have to switch autotuning ON.   .rw a/on

http://www.hoppie.nl/sb747/downloads/sb747.pdf



Jeroen

[Lau]

Dear Jeroen,

All my thanks for this last reply, I did miss this clear explanation on page 23. Some times when you are painting a big wall there are small areas that you miss, unless of curse if you take your time and do it step by step.

With this forum and of curse your help, I have advanced far beyond what I originally expected in only one week. I can now say that the work you have done is incredible, allowing complete "newbies" to fly on very complex peaces of software!

Greetings, truly yours,

Lau

[John Golin]

This all got me thinking... With 3 radios in PSX, the potential for connectivity AND complexity is huge.  It would be great to see the ability to interface radios to hardware to make them perform realistically, especially online.

A question for someone with some experience and understanding of Audio mixers:

Could a 'cheap' x in / y out Analogue mixer with MIDI interface be used to manage and mix the audio (assuming all audio is mono)? I know nothing of these things.

Inputs:

VHF1 (Squawkbox)
VHF2 (AVC)
VHF3 (AVC)
CP mic
FO mic
OB mic
PSX
GND
INT
Others (ambient)?


Outputs:

VHF1 (Squawkbox)
VHF2 (AVC)
VHF3 (AVC)
CP
FO
OB
GND
INT


Software would be used to switch and mix the audio at the mixer.  When a pilot selects a source, the mixer dynamically adds it to their output.

If this is possible there are still many other issues, some of which are;

- Making sure discrete transmissions go out the correct output (including keying mic in correct SB / AVC when required)
- Discrete volume control of each channel on each radio
- Ensuring the keyed mic is the only mic to transmit
- discrete audio generation from PSX - seperate warnings / nav aids / ambient sound


This setup would allow independant use of mics and independant multiple radio use (for ATIS, company  or just strategic use)...



edit:  a mixer like this

http://echoaudio.com/Products/FireWire/AudioFire12/index.php

[Lau]

Hi Jeroen,

When autotuning SB747 with .rw a/on it actually works and I can see any message "typed" by other pilots or controllers on the active frequency setup via PS cockpit. However if I want to listen or contact via "voice" I need to physically select AVC and click on "connect", once AVC is connected the ID of each person connected shows in the big white box and only at this stage I can communicate by "voice". Is there a way to make this process automatic?

Please forgive me if I am wrong in the way I understand things : But it seems to me that with .rw a/on SB747 is indeed autotuned, sending this info to AVC as every time I change the frequency in the cockpit (provided that there is someone behind it) SB automatically tune to the correct server/room address and updates AVC. At this stage and when selecting AVC I can see that the option connect is not selected and therefore no "voice" communication possible. Once connected it works very nicely.

Cheers,

Lau

PS : Did you say that I could upgrade to SB4? I think it has a voice integrated system?

[Zinger]

SB3 and later have integrated voice.

[Jeroen Hoppenbrouwers]

Autotuning is just about voice, not about text -- that always works. I never experienced that you had to manually connect. Of course, this was all ten years ago.

Everybody uses MSFS for everything, for a reason.

[Lau]

guess you are right, I will stop being stubborn...