New engine growl sound

[John H Watson]

Hardy, with AerowinxU1.upd installed, I can hear some kind of (hard to describe) fluttering bass sound (which sounds more like a piston engine driven Hercules transporter, than a fan jet). This is cruising at 35,000' with all engine types and Equip Cooling in OVRD and packs switched off.

This is with headphones on, sound almost at uncomfortable volume

Anyone else hearing this?

Thanks
Cheers
JHW

[Hardy Heinlin]

I don't know what is fluttering on your system, but there is a new turbine growl sound which appears at high thrust settings. This is intentional. It sounds great on my systems.

Don't overdrive your speakers if they are too weak.


Cheers,

|-|ardy

[firstcapt]

Hardy, with AerowinxU1.upd installed, I can hear some kind of (hard to describe) fluttering bass sound (which sounds more like a piston engine driven Hercules transporter, than a fan jet). This is cruising at 35,000' with all engine types and Equip Cooling in OVRD and packs switched off.

This is with headphones on, sound almost at uncomfortable volume

Anyone else hearing this?

Thanks
Cheers
JHW

Yaeh I got almost the same problem.
It seems a sort of a truck or a piston engine and it mostly noticeable at full thrust

[Hardy Heinlin]

It's not a problem, it's a feature. The jet rumble sound is indeed similar to the rumble of piston engines, but that's how it is in real life. There are thousands of flight deck recordings to prove it.

[wsijster]

Hi Hardy,

I installed the AerowinxU1.upd in the audio subfolder and restarted PSX. I assume that the new file is detected by PSX and that it will ' unzip'  the sound files automatically?

Thanks of your help,

Kind regards,

Wim

[G-CIVA]

I assume that the new file is detected by PSX and that it will ' unzip'  the sound files automatically

Restart PSX once then close it.

Then install beta 10.0.5 & the new sound files will be installed.

[wsijster]

Hi Steve,

Thanks for your quick reply! I (maybe my mistake..) did install the new PSX first and after installing AerowinxU1.upd file and restarted and closed (the new version) PSX. Is that the wrong order?

After restart and closing again the ups file still exists..

Regards,

Wim

[G-CIVA]

After restart and closing again the ups file still exists..

Well the beta update page did clearly state that the sound file need to be placed into the Audio subfolder first.

Someone else has asked a question regarding the file remaining inside the Audio subfolder ... I guess the way to check if all is well is by checking on your PSX installation to see if if the following Beta 5 update has taken place:

1.0.0031. EGPWS: New male height call-out voice added; old version can still be selected as an option on Instructor > Model > Warnings with the checkbox "Height call-out voice: Legacy version".

http://aerowinx.com/board/index.php?topic=3858.0

[wsijster]

I will.

Thanks Steve!

[Hardy Heinlin]

1. Copy AerowinxU1.upd to your Audio subfolder.

2. Start PSX 10.1.0-beta5 or higher.

That's all.



The file AerowinxU1.upd will not be deleted. You can delete it or move it elsewhere, e.g. to another Aerowinx instance in your network.

If PSX doesn't tell you by a reminder splash screen that a sound update is required, all is OK.


|-|ardy

[wsijster]

Thanks Hardy!!

[Will]

Very nice update! The sounds are really impressive.


I use an iMac from 2010. With the iMac's external speakers, the new noise is very apparent, and it sounds like a motorboat. It becomes the most prominent shape of the acoustic experience. But when I use headphones, the motorboat noise seems to fall back into context with the rest of the sounds and is very plausible.

[junkun459]

Hi Hardy and all.

I also heared the flattering ranbling engine sound when I run new version first.
It might be same as JHW , firstcapt and Will  heared.

It was unusual roud noize I can't accept.  But, when I repeated close and run PSX once or twice, the sound disappeared!!
I use Windows10

best regards

Jun
 

[Hardy Heinlin]

It appears at high thrust settings only. It's not an error, it's intentional.

If you don't like it, here's a softer version:

http://aerowinx.com/board/index.php?topic=3858.msg41116#msg41116


Cheers,

|-|ardy

[Will]

Just some thoughts. Hardy, the first version, on my Mac's external speakers, sounded like a mechanical noise, like tak-tak-tak-tak that was layered over and above the rest of the soundscape. It was distracting, such that my non-simming partner heard it from across the room and wondered what was going on. Previously, PSX sounded more like white noise from across the room, and didn't arouse any attention. :-)

The new version is much, much better. The sawtooth noise now sounds like a dum-dum-dum-dum that pulses up from within the rest of the sounds. It doesn't sound mechanical at all, more like a growl from a beast. I think you've done an excellent job.

[Hardy Heinlin]

Thanks, Will.

Did you test all three engine models?


|-|ardy

[Will]

Not yet, just RR.

I'll play around with the other two this weekend.

[Will]

Hi again, Hardy.


I played with the other engines in several flight regimes. The "sawtooth" sound is much more pronounced to my ears in the RR engines, compared to GE and P&W. It can really stand out. But I'm assuming that's the natural sound in the aircraft with those engines. On the whole, the blend seems better in this version and is really quite good. Very immersive.


Also, the addition of click sounds for the infinite rotary selectors is a very welcome addition.

[Hardy Heinlin]

Hi Will,

the RR model has a different basic bass tone which is independent of the extra high thrust growl. That basic tone may give the lower end a bit more presence. The growl itself is not louder than on the other models. It's just another frequency spectrum.

The GE's growl has a higher pitch (as can be heard in all those GE videos).

And the PW's growl has a lower pitch.


|-|ardy

[Will]

Yes, that's what I heard. After flying with RR's for so long, I was impressed by what sounded like the deep bass of the P&W engines. It made me rethink my favorite configuration... maybe I would prefer P&W for the sounds alone. I don't know where in the turbine stack the sounds originate, but in my mind it was as if the P&W engines had a more powerful, but slower, second stage. The GE engines seem to have a higher pitch whistle about them somehow.


I can't say anything about the authenticity of the sounds, but they certainly seem unique and with enough complexity to be immersive. My only complaint was the former rata-tata-tata-tata mechanical sound of the RR engines, which now in the new release seems more like an organic production of the soundscape itself, and not some kind of overlay. The sounds are so good now that I'm tempted to fly with headphones as a rule. That comes with advantages (excellent sound experience) and disadvantages (can't hear family members chatting!).