World Flight practice

[Jeroen Hoppenbrouwers]

Out for business again: KTMB - KRYY and back on the same day in a Citation 501SP. Six hours in a cramped seat with no facilities.

Some day I'll hate it.


Jeroen

[Holger Wende]

Hi Hoppie,

A while back I asked a glider pilot about his strategy is when he plans to fly for several hours with no lavatory on board. His resonse was sinple:
Swaddling clothes  

Cheers, Holger

[Matt Sheil]

Out for business again: KTMB - KRYY and back on the same day in a Citation 501SP. Six hours in a cramped seat with no facilities.

Some day I'll hate it.


Jeroen

Oh please Hoppie you do jest......
I sit in my Baron for 5 hours straight  4 days in a row to go across Australia and back 20 hours and love every second of it, please don't tell me you are bored with 6 hours sitting in the back of a Citation?
Are you sure you are just not showing off?  
I envy you, but still enjoy flying at 200 Kts as it takes longer  :lol:

[Matt Sheil]

Hi Hoppie,

A while back I asked a glider pilot about his strategy is when he plans to fly for several hours with no lavatory on board. His resonse was sinple:
Swaddling clothes  

Cheers, Holger

Holger my plane has a relief tube or (Pissaphone) a tube and venturie device under the plane to suck the P.ss out of you in cruise, very efficient and beats using a bottle.
Looks a little like an old fashion telephone, funnel with a trigger.
I love it........

[jb747]

Used rental aircraft myself... along with the Human Element Range Extender

[martin]

(Pissaphone) a tube and venturie device under the plane

Storage tank or jettison?
 :shock:

[Shiv Mathur]

Looks a little like an old fashion telephone ...

Mrs. Sheil:  Hello? Hello? Matt ... where ARE you?

Matt:  I told ya, honey ... I'm at 15000 feet in my Baron ...

Mrs. Sheil:  Matt, I know you're at Bondi beach with that trollop from next door ... I can hear the sound of the ocean!

[John Golin]

Looks a little like an old fashion telephone ...

Mrs. Sheil:  Hello? Hello? Matt ... where ARE you?

Matt:  I told ya, honey ... I'm at 15000 feet in my Baron ...

Mrs. Sheil:  Matt, I know you're at Bondi beach with that trollop from next door ... I can hear the sound of the ocean!

The funny thing is the bugger can (and does) answer the phone and post on the internet  while in cruise across the middle of Australia and you'd never know.

[Hardy Heinlin]

(Pissaphone) a tube and venturie device under the plane

Storage tank or jettison?
 :shock:

Storage, I hope? (Not sure re Australia). On the other hand, compared to fuel jettison, a bottle of human champagne would be certainly less harmful than 200 tons of fuel, or 1000 tons of acid feces from birds flying over Rome.


T-T

[Matt Sheil]

No goes out to atmosphere, no storage at all.
here is a picture of the exit tube.(the black thingy

[Matt Sheil]

The entry point below the pilots seat, sitting in it's holder

[Hardy Heinlin]

Do you wash your hands before you disengage the autopilot?

[martin]

...my worst fears are confirmed -- actually it was an ornithological question, I was thinking of the birds, only the other way round...

Bonus Fun Question: Ever tried to generate contrail under appropriate atmospheric conditions*?
(Or to use device/process to determine current atmospheric conditions?)

Bonus Zoological Question: Female adapter?
(I once saw an add where some similar but far less sophisticated in-flight device had them.)

Bonus Technical Question: Shouldn't that thing be controlled by the Jettison switches rather than by the Fuel Selector (see Matt's pic.)? Fuel Selector in this context looks rather hazardous!
Or perhaps the interdependence is that when the Fuel Selector is set to "Crownies", the device automatically goes into "Fast Throughput Mode"?

Bonus PSX Question: How will PSX handle this aspect and related zoological ones?
(Remember that e.g. the Flight1 ATR72 for FS2004 sports a toilet with working lid and flushing! No actual zoology/physiology though -- yet. Market niche for PSX? Consulting tenders available on request.)

 :?

*I seem to recall that Gemini/Apollo astronauts succeeded in creating rather spectacular celestial effects in similar ways (a cloud of golden crystals glittering in the sun, or something).

[Matt Sheil]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-XnnUDiNESs

In planes we use bottles with large necks, like a Gatorade bottle if you don't have a Pissaphone
This is a hoot

[Pierre Theillere]

Hi Matt!

Amazing device! I now really start to wonder what will be most useful for WorldFlight crew once it switches to PSx: Smoke Evac handle, or pissaphones (1 per crewmember: beer leads to loads of... "production")?

[Jeroen Hoppenbrouwers]

Please don't tell me you are bored with 6 hours sitting in the back of a Citation?

It wasn't in the back   :mrgreen:



(edit)
During WorldFlight, I sort of have a preference for the F/O position (we typically use the convention that left seat is P/F all the time, for various reasons). One of the aspects that I like is the radio work and keeping 10 minutes ahead of it, including feeding the P/F the required info before he needs it.

In the US ATC system, there is much more radar vectoring than I am used to, so we can fly basically without maps as long as you have a GPS nav box that knows the WYPTS. But I still like a few pieces of dead tree around... it will be a while before I can convert to memory only and an iThing where you can scribble on with a greasy finger.

Now I find myself looking around for a used aviation headset...


Jeroen

[Phil Bunch]

Isn't the described in-flight waste elimination system vulnerable to freezing at higher altitudes?  (grins)

[Holger Wende]

Storage tank or jettison?
 :shock:

I wonder whether altitude restrictions apply for the use of that p...phone?  :evil:

[Holger Wende]

... Fuel Selector in this context looks rather hazardous!

Did you see the small black box just below the tube?
It reads:  Music Input

Ha! That gives that "p... dump procedure" even another flavour:

"Hey pedestrians/kangaroos down there - want a bit of music..."  :twisted:

[Matt Sheil]

No rules that I know of that restrict use of the Pissaphone, but reality is you use it at cruise and on long flights, so 9 to 10,000ft would be the normal.
I also use a water bottle to flush it after use and have "wet ones" hygenic hand cleaning towels for after use. ;-), but due to the suction it has when you pull the trigger, nothing really misses.