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Title: PDF SOP 747-400
Post by: double-alpha on Sat, 4 Apr 2015 06:55
Hi everybody.

I would like to share a pdf I wrote myself if it can help some of you who are not familiar with 747 normal procedures (for the first times that you use the wonderful PSX simulator...).
SOP should be easier to learn.


New update (version 1.7, 19/12/2015) :

QuoteThe FSMC closes crossfeed valves 2 and 3 (before takeoff) only when the aircraft is on the ground and the flaps are at takeoff position (10 or 20) for 40 sec.
I changed the presentation

QuoteYou also may want to mention pilots may get >FUEL LOW CTR L/R or >FUEL LO STAB L/R during step climb (pitch >5°) and after leveling off the >FUEL OVD CTR L/R and >FUEL PMP STB L/R messages (to switch them back ON)
I added a paragraph

PDF :
https://www.dropbox.com/s/bzjkaf33a124b0v/747_SOP7.pdf?dl=0

DOCX :
https://www.dropbox.com/s/tq1ldn2gzq45b2d/747_SOP7.docx?dl=0





You can download a PDF file of my "visual" keyboard summary : it could be helpful if you use keyboard only for your first flights.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/9rgv0mobp9xfmv8/psx_keyboard.pdf?dl=0
Title: PDF SOP 747-400
Post by: Hardy Heinlin on Sat, 4 Apr 2015 07:23
Hi,

I think it looks very good.

Thank you for your contribution! :-)


Cheers,

|-|ardy
Title: PDF SOP 747-400
Post by: Frans Spruit on Sat, 4 Apr 2015 09:20
Hi,

This is very helpful for an amateur pilot like me.
Thank you very much.

Frans
Title: PDF SOP 747-400
Post by: Keith Maton on Sat, 4 Apr 2015 09:43
Oh this is very useful, thank you.
Title: PDF SOP 747-400
Post by: GodAtum on Sat, 4 Apr 2015 10:51
Awesome work :)
Title: PDF SOP 747-400
Post by: ndumbane on Sat, 4 Apr 2015 13:24
Merci beaucoup !!!!!!
Title: PDF SOP 747-400
Post by: jtsjc1 on Sat, 4 Apr 2015 13:50
Great work thank you!  :D
Title: PDF SOP 747-400
Post by: tango4 on Sat, 4 Apr 2015 15:39
Thanks a lot, much more readable than the FCOM version !
Very nice work.
Title: PDF SOP 747-400
Post by: Mundyas on Sat, 4 Apr 2015 16:33
This is great. Thanks so much.
Title: PDF SOP 747-400
Post by: Phil Bunch on Sat, 4 Apr 2015 17:03
Thank you very much for this helpful document.  It nicely fills the gap between massive fully detailed manuals and simple checklists.
Title: PDF SOP 747-400
Post by: cagarini on Sat, 4 Apr 2015 17:15
Was really looking after something like this!

GREAT!

THANK YOU!
Title: PDF SOP 747-400
Post by: Hardy Heinlin on Sat, 4 Apr 2015 17:18
A little remark on page 43 & 47:

You should disengage the A/P with a double-push on the A/P disconnect switch on the yoke (or on the A key). Don't pull down the disconnect bar on the MCP. Also, that won't silence the disconnect alert.

The same with the A/T ARM switch. Turn it back up to ARM, or just double-push an A/T disconnect switch on the throttles (or double-push the page-up key).


Cheers,

|-|ardy
Title: PDF SOP 747-400
Post by: Simicro on Sat, 4 Apr 2015 21:24
I own PSX since last october but have only "played around" with it. I haven't had the opportunity yet to make a whole fligth for 3 reasons:
- lack of time
- wife
- lack of a tutorial like this one!

Very valuable document. I appreciate the fact it covers all phases of flight, the screenshots and the comments.

A big thank you mate!!!

Hardy, I suggest to move this post in the Tutorials forum to make it clearly visible.
Title: PDF SOP 747-400
Post by: double-alpha on Sat, 4 Apr 2015 21:29
Hi

Ok HH you are right (I am sorry) but actually i took a sceenshot of the AP disconnect bar because I didn't have a picture of the switch on the yoke.
And I did the same mistake with the A/T on the throttle...
I am very busy and I will try to update, and I am going to upload the docx files so as to anyone could add some modifications or their own comments.

Regards

Adrien
Title: PDF SOP 747-400
Post by: John H Watson on Sun, 5 Apr 2015 01:01
Just a few comments, Adrien...

How did you get the door lock switch to stay in the UNLKD position? :P

On the PRELIMINARY COCKPIT PREPARATION, could you explain why you set the Inboard CRT selector to EICAS. Thanks

In the FINAL COCKPIT PREPARATION, you set the MCP speed to V2+10. Is this a company option? If you did this, on takeoff, the Flight Director would aim for V2+10 plus 10 = V2+20.

During takeoff, the Upper EICAS shows CON IGNITION ON. Did I miss a step?

Thanks for the SOP. I can see you put a lot of effort into it  8)

Rgds
JHW
Title: PDF SOP 747-400
Post by: double-alpha on Sun, 5 Apr 2015 03:46
Thank you for your comments,

I am not an expert like BRITJET  :roll: ! My goal was only to give a little help for the first flights...

On the PRELIMINARY COCKPIT PREPARATION, the inboard CRT selector is set to EICAS if NO EXT POWER AVAIL (= you have to start APU) :
Your ND becomes secondary EICAS.
You have also to push EICAS STATUS.
You can check voltages amperages and charge status of main and APU batteries before start APU.
You can then check APU indications (EGT, N1, N2) before APU GEN comes to AVAIL (even if it is blank during the beginning of APU start).

MCP speed set to V2+10 : you are right and I updated.

During takeoff, the Upper EICAS shows CON IGNITION ON : disregard (I took screenshots from various flights...)

Hardy Heinlein, I used your operation manual to have a picture of the yoke (A/P disengage switch)....

I share in addition a DOCX version so that everybody can download and edit it easily to add a modification, a comment.

Regards

Adrien
Title: PDF SOP 747-400
Post by: double-alpha on Sun, 5 Apr 2015 03:57
update (version 3) :

https://www.dropbox.com/s/d72oxcs3uvzpwlu/747_sop2.pdf?dl=0
Title: PDF SOP 747-400
Post by: double-alpha on Sun, 5 Apr 2015 04:07
Docx version so that you can edit for yourself:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/bik6juircxfoho1/747_sop2.docx?dl=0
Title: PDF SOP 747-400
Post by: funkyhut on Sun, 5 Apr 2015 04:26
Thank you. Awesome!
Title: PDF SOP 747-400
Post by: Hardy Heinlin on Sun, 5 Apr 2015 05:00
Quote from: John H WatsonIn the FINAL COCKPIT PREPARATION, you set the MCP speed to V2+10. Is this a company option? If you did this, on takeoff, the Flight Director would aim for V2+10 plus 10 = V2+20.
I think Lufthansa did this for a while, some years ago. Why should TOGA use the MCP SPD to determine V2? As far as I recall, the AFDS gets V2 from the FMC, not from the MCP. The AFDS also records the IAS during rotation when passing 2° pitch attitude; I think that is used when there is no valid V2 data from the FMC. The AFDS TOGA mode then adds 10 to 25 as per timer logic and current airspeed. And when VNAV engages, the MCP SPD is blank anyway.


Cheers,

|-|ardy
Title: PDF SOP 747-400
Post by: John H Watson on Sun, 5 Apr 2015 13:52
The AOM says the pitch command is a target speed of V2 (IAS/Mach Window) +10 or airspeed on rotation. If the current airspeed remains above the target airspeed for more than 5 seconds, that becomes the new target airspeed  (up to a maximum of V2+25)

VNAV doesn't engage until 400' at which point the FMC holds the airspeed at current airspeed (until accel height).

Rgds
JHW
Title: PDF SOP 747-400
Post by: Hardy Heinlin on Sun, 5 Apr 2015 14:11
Does your AOM explicitly refer to "IAS/Mach Window"?

If I recall correctly, there were some maintenance docs explaining this stuff in greater detail; this also involves VR: if I'm not wrong, the pitch need not only be higher than 2°, the current IAS also needs to be greater than VR (if valid). If the AFDS gets VR data from the FMC, why shouldn't it get V2 as well (if valid)?


Cheers,

|-|ardy
Title: PDF SOP 747-400
Post by: Stephane LI on Sun, 5 Apr 2015 15:27
Nice document.
In the Boeing FCOM, the normal procedure in the before start procedure flow is to set V2 for the IAS/Mach Selector on the MCP.

Stephane
Title: PDF SOP 747-400
Post by: Hardy Heinlin on Sun, 5 Apr 2015 16:23
I know, Stephane. But the question is if the AFDS really takes the MCP SPD as V2 or if the AFDS takes the V2 from the FMC if it's valid. The fact that the crew sets V2 on the MCP and that the MCP SPD agrees with the FMC's V2 doesn't necessarily mean that the MCP is really the one that feeds the AFDS with a V2 reference.


|-|ardy
Title: PDF SOP 747-400
Post by: Britjet on Sun, 5 Apr 2015 18:01
Quoting from the FCOM2...

"• After takeoff, the AFDS commands a pitch attitude less than the pitch limit indicator to maintain:
• a target speed of V2 plus 10 knots or airspeed at rotation (pitch attitude greater than two degrees) plus 10 knots, whichever is greater
• if current airspeed remains above the target speed for 5 seconds, target airspeed resets to current airspeed, to a maximum of V2 plus 25 knots
 • IAS/MACH window speed if IAS/MACH window speed is changed to a speed greater than the target speed

Note: AFDS uses the speed set in the IAS/MACH window for V2."

Peter
Title: PDF SOP 747-400
Post by: Hardy Heinlin on Sun, 5 Apr 2015 18:06
Quote from: Britjet"Note: AFDS uses the speed set in the IAS/MACH window for V2."

OK, confirmed :-)


|-|ardy
Title: PDF SOP 747-400
Post by: John H Watson on Sun, 5 Apr 2015 22:04
P.S. My FCOM doesn't add a note at the end, but inserts it into the earlier text with parentheses.

I'm not sure how Vr fits into this. You would think the speed shouldn't drop below a certain value, but the guidance has to be independent of FMC entries during TO mode (for when the FMC is inoperative). On the other hand, maybe it's just not that smart. Stall Card computed stall speed may be the only lower limitation.
Title: PDF SOP 747-400
Post by: double-alpha on Fri, 10 Apr 2015 11:16
Hi,

I found this interesting discussion : B744 MCP Airspeed Setting (V2 Versus V2+10)

http://www.pprune.org/tech-log/283956-b744-mcp-airspeed-setting-v2-versus-v2-10-a.html
Title: PDF SOP 747-400
Post by: John H Watson on Sat, 11 Apr 2015 02:10
Actually, I was aware of this PPRuNe posting  :mrgreen:  I was just wondering what your source was and whether a certain American airline was still using the V2+10 setting (in contravention of Boeing ops)
Title: PDF SOP 747-400
Post by: double-alpha on Sat, 11 Apr 2015 04:14
Hello,

It mainly comes from Boeing (who uses of course V2).
I decided initially to choose V2+10 (anyway V2 in the new PDF) when I loaded departure.situ from instructor page to take some screenshots of the MCP speed setting : you can notice that the MCP speed is already set to V2+10 (if you assume that V2 in TAKEOFF REF page is correct!).

I do not know for American airline or other...

Regards

Adrien
Title: PDF SOP 747-400
Post by: DougSnow on Sat, 11 Apr 2015 09:29
Quote from: John H WatsonActually, I was aware of this PPRuNe posting  :mrgreen:  I was just wondering what your source was and whether a certain American airline was still using the V2+10 setting (in contravention of Boeing ops)

Pre-Merger NWA was V2
UAL is V2
DAL is V2
CKS is V2
GTI is V2

An airline can ask Boeing for whats called an "NTO" - No Technical Objection, so maybe this carrier had done that.
Title: PDF SOP 747-400
Post by: double-alpha on Sat, 11 Apr 2015 18:08
Thank you dougsnow for the clarification
Title: PDF SOP 747-400
Post by: double-alpha on Wed, 15 Apr 2015 00:13
Hi,

I didn't fly yesterday (I am OFF!) so I had time to write a third version to make it more clear, simple and understandable (I hope) :
https://www.dropbox.com/s/d72oxcs3uvzpwlu/747_sop2.pdf?dl=0

It seemed to me that a few items were a bit confusing  or not relevant for the first virtual flight (INBD CRT selector:EICAS...)
In addition, I noticed one or two omissions (for exemple : maintenance panel checks, AFT CARGO HT as required after start, ...)

I tried also to be more coherent with PROCEDURES section you can read in Hardy Heinlein manual page 554 (for exemple : STANBY POWER test that you can find only in FCOM supplementary elec procedures = removed).

I removed flap speed additives that don't exist in boeing SOP (SOP request to set MCP to flaps maneuvering instead of flaps maneuvering speed + 10 kt).


You can download a PDF file of my "visual" keyboard summary : it could be helpful if you use keyboard only for your first flights.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/9rgv0mobp9xfmv8/psx_keyboard.pdf?dl=0
Title: PDF SOP 747-400
Post by: G-CIVA on Wed, 15 Apr 2015 00:38
Just one further point if you have time before you go to press for a further iteration ...

pp 27 Automatic Engine Start Sequence

Boeing FCOM & All Airline SOP dictate the Start Selector is pulled BEFORE the Fuel Control is positioned to RUN.

It might be helpful here to also add in a section for PW equipped aircraft not fitted with AUTOSTART (SQ & UAL) immediately spring to mind.  

In addition a sequence for a Manual Start might be helpful.

Just some thoughts.
Title: PDF SOP 747-400
Post by: double-alpha on Wed, 15 Apr 2015 04:09
Mistyping error, fixed soon , tky

BUT, In Hardy Heinlein Aerowinx Manual, I checked (autostart) :
1 fuel control switch RUN
2 engine start switch PULL

2 then 1 in my FCOM

Hardy, Could you confirm ??
Title: PDF SOP 747-400
Post by: G-CIVA on Wed, 15 Apr 2015 06:08
From a 'vanilla' Boeing 747-FCOM Vol 1 Normal Procedures, Engine Start Sequence:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/n8gixlrvls7v6rn/ENG%20Start.jpg?dl=0

Also move this vid fwd to 3m 45 sec to see the procedure in action.

https://youtu.be/nhXXjNybx6A
Title: PDF SOP 747-400
Post by: double-alpha on Wed, 15 Apr 2015 06:46
OK we have now for Engine Start sequence :

1 engine start switch PULL
2 fuel control switch RUN
Title: PDF SOP 747-400
Post by: G-CIVA on Wed, 15 Apr 2015 06:48
Check!

 8)
Title: PDF SOP 747-400
Post by: Balt on Wed, 15 Apr 2015 09:59
Hi,

this is very well done, thanks! Couple of points for refinement:

I'd recommend on initial flight deck prep (page 3) to also check the brake accumulator pressure, and always set #4 HYD demand pump to AUX, never OFF (in the cold and dark cockpit anyway). This is because the ground handling bus powers this pump (as does the APU). The accumulator itself was not designed to stop the airplane. While there may be some pressure left, it may not be enough to keep the airplane from rolling once the chocks (or tug) are removed... embarrassment ensues. Unless Hardy didn't model that, which I consider unlikely. :-) Once brake accumulator pressure has been confirmed, re-set the parking brake to make sure there's enough pressure on the disks.

The second point regards the AC packs: I don't think takeoffs are ever performed with all the packs off, at least not in my memory. Usually two packs are switched off, but one remains on. After all we want a pleasurable 500fpm or less cabin rate. I can't find anything in my old manuals regarding all packs off for performance, but it is of course conceivable that you might just squeeze that extra rounding error out of your takeoff calculations... :)

Cheers

- Balt
Title: PDF SOP 747-400
Post by: cavaricooper on Wed, 15 Apr 2015 11:57
BA used to be 300T+ packs off (my current MO).  If it has changed, perhaps Peter can advise current status.....?

C
Title: PDF SOP 747-400
Post by: Britjet on Wed, 15 Apr 2015 12:27
BA is 300+ packs off. Different airlines do it different ways, though.
The cabin is very slow to climb even with the packs off, so it isn't really an issue.
It saves messing about with isolation valves...
"Packs off" will generally increase TOPL by about 2 tonnes.


With regard to #4 AUX pump being switched ON.
You never pressurise a hydraulic system without ground clearance. ( because of gear doors, flaps, flight controls etc). There is quite enough pressure in the brake accumulator to maintain the park brake, and on most departures the aircraft is chocked anyway..
Leave it until the before start procedure...

Peter.
Title: PDF SOP 747-400
Post by: John H Watson on Wed, 15 Apr 2015 15:30
QuoteThe second point regards the AC packs: I don't think takeoffs are ever performed with all the packs off, at least not in my memory.

My old airline in recent times started doing no pack takeoffs for all flights.

QuoteThe accumulator itself was not designed to stop the airplane. While there may be some pressure left, it may not be enough to keep the airplane from rolling once the chocks (or tug) are removed..

It's hard to know where to draw the line on levels of safety., but as a former ground engineer, I would never blame the pilot for letting the plane roll away. Either the chocks should be in or the tug attached to the nose (engine running and driver in his seat). Engineers give the pilot the signal to release the brakes, except on freighters where the brakes aren't parked anyway (as it can interfere with the Weight & Balance System). As Britjet says, you can't just turn on pumps without getting clearance. Control surfaces will move.

Rgds
JHW
Title: PDF SOP 747-400
Post by: double-alpha on Wed, 15 Apr 2015 19:10
Hi and thank you for your remarks.
However, I can't comply with all airlines SOP, so I leave PACKS and HYD DEM PUMP unchanged if you don't mind (anyway, you can add your own modifications according to your airline SOP directly from the docx file below...).

Docx file :

https://www.dropbox.com/s/bik6juircxfoho1/747_sop2.docx?dl=0


I checked my FCOM : Hyd demand pump 4 selector to OFF until before engines start.

Waiting for further remarks thank you... It is not easy to notice mistakes alone!

Regards

Adrien
Title: PDF SOP 747-400
Post by: Balt on Thu, 16 Apr 2015 00:16
Well, I've been out of the loop for far too long apparently, disregard my suggestions! :-)

Cheers

- Balt
Title: PDF SOP 747-400
Post by: Dennis B on Wed, 27 May 2015 10:44
Hey AA,

great contribution! Actually working through your SOP v3. The only thing that I am missing so far is page numbering ... Maybe you could be so kind and upload the PDF with page numbering that refers to the table of contents - that would be great!

Another suggestion would be to upload the "raw" file in a more common format; I'd appreciate an .odf file (Open document format). As far as I know MS Word can im- and export this file type, too. And users of OpenOffice / LibreOffice and so on would be able to better use the document (it can be imported in AbiWord and OO but has some formatting glitches).

Cheers
Dennis
Title: PDF SOP 747-400
Post by: double-alpha on Wed, 27 May 2015 16:31
Hi dennis

You re welcome.
I am going to see this later... (Busy right now!!)
Check your post about your COMM panel, I noticed something maybe wrong...

Regards

Adrien
Title: PDF SOP 747-400
Post by: double-alpha on Fri, 29 May 2015 06:11
Hello,

New update (version 4) :

PDF :
https://www.dropbox.com/s/sul16rsgfuxar8v/747_sop4.pdf?dl=0

DOCX :
https://www.dropbox.com/s/c8xyer0wr8mae7x/747_sop4.docx?dl=0

ODT :
https://www.dropbox.com/s/fkh4o65r9e01o0s/747_sop4.odt?dl=0


-PDF with page numbering now...
-new chapter about AFDS modes
-minor modifications



Regards

Adrien
Title: PDF SOP 747-400
Post by: B747-400 on Sun, 31 May 2015 08:36
Thanks!  8)
BR Hans
Title: PDF SOP 747-400
Post by: double-alpha on Sun, 31 May 2015 09:46
you re welcome!

Adrien
Title: PDF SOP 747-400
Post by: Kabbers on Wed, 5 Aug 2015 19:11
Thanks Adrien, it's really helping me and so well put together!
cheers Kabbers
Title: PDF SOP 747-400
Post by: double-alpha on Wed, 5 Aug 2015 23:05
Thank you Kabbers, and enjoy your flights. :P

Cheers

Adrien
Title: Re: PDF SOP 747-400
Post by: Magoo on Fri, 21 Aug 2015 05:29
Nice work!
Title: Re: PDF SOP 747-400
Post by: double-alpha on Sat, 22 Aug 2015 19:00
Thank you Magoo

Adrien
Title: Re: PDF SOP 747-400
Post by: double-alpha on Mon, 30 Nov 2015 07:11
Hello,

New update (version 5, 29/11/2015) :

PDF :
https://www.dropbox.com/s/x77wubh3r8ramub/747_SOP5.pdf?dl=0

DOCX :
https://www.dropbox.com/s/cufqwosfqv3t4qq/747_SOP5.docx?dl=0


-minor modifications (I tried to get closer to latest Boeing SOPs)
-new Boeing CHecklists



Regards

Adrien
Title: Re: PDF SOP 747-400
Post by: Frans Spruit on Mon, 30 Nov 2015 12:00
Hi Adrien,

Thank you for nr5. Pictures en words work the best for me  :-\

Frans Spruit
Title: Re: PDF SOP 747-400
Post by: double-alpha on Mon, 30 Nov 2015 17:29
Thank you Frans Spruit.

This new version (1.5) complies now better with recent Boeing FCOM (however I simplified and reorganized some items to make it more convenient  :D).

The previous versions were on purpose a "mixture" of Boeing FCOM (old and new) and Official Aerowinx Manual (from DLH procedures I guess).
The mix was not a good idea : contrary to what I thought at first, the result was not very clear...  :(

I gave it a cleanup and tried to remove all confusing items.

I added all normal Boeing Check-lists : I suggest you to download Boeing Copilot files by Sylvain Coolsaet :

http://aerowinx.com/board/index.php?topic=3094.0

I kept Sarah BAW check-lists (because as Sylvain says : Boeing checklist are much more compact than the ones some airlines are using).


Best regards.
Adrien.
Title: Re: PDF SOP 747-400
Post by: double-alpha on Sat, 19 Dec 2015 03:42
Hello,

New update (version 1.6, 18/12/2015) :

The 747-400 fuel system is complex : I added a new chapter (FUEL OPERATION SYSTEM - have a look page 36)

+ minor modifications


PDF :
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/76570297/PSX/747_SOP6.pdf

DOCX :
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/76570297/PSX/747_SOP6.docx

Enjoy your virtual flights!

Regards

Adrien
Title: Re: PDF SOP 747-400
Post by: Avi on Sat, 19 Dec 2015 13:19
Hi,

I have minor remarks.
• The FSMC closes crossfeed valves 2 and 3 (before takeoff) only when the aircraft is on the ground and the flaps are at takeoff position (10 or 20) for 40 sec.
• You ignored the AUX tank.

You also may want to mention pilots may get >FUEL LOW CTR L/R or >FUEL LO STAB L/R during step climb (pitch >5°) and after leveling off the >FUEL OVD CTR L/R and >FUEL PMP STB L/R messages (to switch them back ON).

Cheers,
Title: Re: PDF SOP 747-400
Post by: double-alpha on Sun, 20 Dec 2015 05:41
Hi Avi,

Thank you for your remarks,

I ignored the AUX tank, but this is intentional :  I use CF6 engines, non ER aircraft, anti-ice with auto ... it would be too complicated to take into account every aircraft specific (KG/pounds   -   CF6/RB211/PW -  engine autostart : one main control or 4 individual controls, etc  ...)

QuoteThe FSMC closes crossfeed valves 2 and 3 (before takeoff) only when the aircraft is on the ground and the flaps are at takeoff position (10 or 20) for 40 sec.
I changed the presentation thank you again

QuoteYou also may want to mention pilots may get >FUEL LOW CTR L/R or >FUEL LO STAB L/R during step climb (pitch >5°) and after leveling off the >FUEL OVD CTR L/R and >FUEL PMP STB L/R messages (to switch them back ON)
I added a paragraph

New update (version 1.7, 19/12/2015)

PDF :
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/76570297/PSX/747_SOP7.pdf

DOCX :
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/76570297/PSX/747_SOP7.docx


Best regards !
Title: Re: PDF SOP 747-400
Post by: Wardie on Tue, 13 Dec 2016 13:14
Hi Double-alpha, thanks a million for such an informative doc! Please would you post your personal layout file for your panel placements - they are the best I have seen so far and would like to use them if you do not mind. Thanks in advance!
Title: Re: PDF SOP 747-400
Post by: double-alpha on Tue, 13 Dec 2016 13:48
Hi Wardie

Thank you you kind words.

Here's a link to "Layout-double-alpha.9pack" in my Dropbox:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/byo5nt2g4z0le2w/Layout-double-alpha.9pack?dl=0

I hope it is what you wish.

Double-alpha
Title: Re: PDF SOP 747-400
Post by: Wardie on Tue, 13 Dec 2016 17:32
Thank you Double-alpha, it works beautifully, that is the best Christmas present (even though it's twelve days before Christmas) I could have asked for. You are a star! Thanks a million!
Title: Re: PDF SOP 747-400
Post by: Will on Wed, 14 Dec 2016 00:41
Hello Wardie!


Speaking of layouts, here is a .pdf I made that gives you an example of the power of the layout creation mechanism in PSX, along with an example. Everyone will have their own preferences, of course, but I thought you might like to see this:


http://aerowinx.com/downloads/WillCronenwett-PsxLayouts.zip (http://aerowinx.com/downloads/WillCronenwett-PsxLayouts.zip)



Title: Re: PDF SOP 747-400
Post by: Wardie on Wed, 14 Dec 2016 06:10
Thank you for that, working my way through it now!  :)
Title: Re: PDF SOP 747-400
Post by: mgeiss on Sat, 16 Sep 2017 06:10
The link to the current SOP doesn't work anymore. could you please check/reupload? Thank you! :)
Title: Re: PDF SOP 747-400
Post by: double-alpha on Sat, 16 Sep 2017 23:48
I think it is due to new dropbox policy .

Try this link and let me know if it works :

https://www.dropbox.com/s/bzjkaf33a124b0v/747_SOP7.pdf?dl=0
Title: Re: PDF SOP 747-400
Post by: mgeiss on Sun, 17 Sep 2017 07:05
That worked, thank you!
Title: Re: PDF SOP 747-400
Post by: double-alpha on Sun, 17 Sep 2017 20:01
Thank you Mgeiss
Title: Re: PDF SOP 747-400
Post by: the mad hatter on Mon, 18 Sep 2017 21:41
this is a great tool and I would be grateful if you could make the word version of it available again please and thank you 
Title: Re: PDF SOP 747-400
Post by: double-alpha on Tue, 19 Sep 2017 06:08
I forgot the Word version  :o:


https://www.dropbox.com/s/tq1ldn2gzq45b2d/747_SOP7.docx?dl=0
Title: Re: PDF SOP 747-400
Post by: the mad hatter on Tue, 19 Sep 2017 15:00
wonderful thank you... would you please consider making this word file one that I can edit as the configuration of my sim differs from your document  once again my sincere thanks  as said this is a great learning tool to compliment PSX
Title: Re: PDF SOP 747-400
Post by: double-alpha on Tue, 19 Sep 2017 19:42
Thank you for your feedback,

I made a word version available so that you can edit and customize as much as you want.

Good flights with your sim!

Title: Re: PDF SOP 747-400
Post by: the mad hatter on Tue, 19 Sep 2017 20:52
you sir are a star for dumb dumbs like me ..shoukd you ever be in Austin TX   stop by for cow and scotch 😁
Title: Re: PDF SOP 747-400
Post by: double-alpha on Tue, 19 Sep 2017 23:48
Austin TX is unfortunately not one of my destinations but I let you know if I divert and land over there...

See you
Title: Re: PDF SOP 747-400
Post by: teeloo on Mon, 9 Oct 2017 20:06
Just want to add my thanks, like all others did:

Great SOP work!

teeloo

Title: Re: PDF SOP 747-400
Post by: double-alpha on Tue, 10 Oct 2017 22:49
Hello teeloo,

Thanks, It's nice to know this PDF is appreciated.  :)

Double-alpha
Title: Re: PDF SOP 747-400
Post by: beat578 on Tue, 29 Sep 2020 08:25
Hi all
I finally finished the Overhaul of the PDF SOP from Double-Alpha. With his kind permission, I can give you access to this new verions, made for users of FiFli and BACARS, but also stating the differencies from the FMC NG to the old FMC.

https://www.dropbox.com/sh/867niddxf80hzw8/AAAi5L0Xup5NfdZr9dgoZWdAa?dl=0 (https://www.dropbox.com/sh/867niddxf80hzw8/AAAi5L0Xup5NfdZr9dgoZWdAa?dl=0)

You find the File here. Please let me know if there are errors in the file. As I am not a realworld Pilot, I tried to guess the correct porcedures from the manuals and forums and old checklist sometimes. I also edited the checklist to fit FiFli and BACARS at one or two points. So let me know if I can improve the file further. Thank you Double-Alpha for this great checklist, still after years I use it ona regular base for my flights!

Beat LSZH
Title: Re: PDF SOP 747-400
Post by: B747-400 on Tue, 29 Sep 2020 10:15
Excellent, thanks a lot!
Title: Re: PDF SOP 747-400
Post by: kwieser76 on Tue, 29 Sep 2020 12:55
thanks a lot
Title: Re: PDF SOP 747-400
Post by: Ton van Bochove on Tue, 29 Sep 2020 16:11
Great video's!
Title: Re: PDF SOP 747-400
Post by: GodAtum on Wed, 30 Sep 2020 18:48
Amazing, thanks! I think there's no need to board in ACARS at Fifli does it for you.
Title: Re: PDF SOP 747-400
Post by: Gary Oliver on Thu, 1 Oct 2020 10:43
'BOARD NOW' in BACARS starts the fuelling process to either the Flight Plan Required fuel, or if enetered the FOB figure on the FLT INIT page.    BACARS doesn't have a concept of boarding, FiFi does that.