Hi,
Is there anyway I can see a post flight analysis of the training detail after it's been flown? For example a profile of the flight path? I'm practising some raw data sids and NDB approaches and would like to see how far off i am.
Cheers,
T
There is a post-flight vertical profile available on the Instructors page /Analysis/Profile. For further details, refer to page 67 of the manual.
Cheers
JHW
Thanks John,
The profile tab only displays the final portion of the flight and is quite basic for all intents and purposes.
Perhaps there's a way to connect PSX to something like foreflight so that I can export my profile?
T
You can run the recorder on Instructor > Analysis > Recorder. It runs for 20 hours per file.
You can read the recorded file with Excel or any other spreadsheet program.
http://aerowinx.com/board/index.php?topic=3127.0
The time resolution is 20 Hz and the parameters are highly precise using 32 bit floating point variables.
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Does anyone know of any software that could import the recorder data to depict all of these numbers into something useful?
I believe X-Plane can import this data and you can then visualize it with external views, etc.
http://www.x-plane.com/kb/fdr-files-x-plane-11/
- Stekeller
KGED
Have you managed to load anything in xplane 11 yet?
QuoteDoes anyone know of any software that could import the recorder data to depict all of these numbers into something useful?
PSX FDR files are written in a CSV (Comma Separated Values) format. Like Hardy said earlier, you can import these files into Excel and convert them from ".CSV" to ".XLS" (or ".XLSX"). Just google "how to convert CSV to Excel" for many, many answers.
While converting, in the last step choose "advanced". At "Separator for thousands", choose the blank option. After finishing, I usually select all data and replace the "." in these numbers by ",". Then you will be able to change the position of the comma and make numbers more readable (like GS 525,01044 into GS 525). That is how it works in my Dutch version of Excel on a MAC.
Regards,
Simon
I'm not interested in opening them with excel, I'm interested in opening them with some sort of de-briefing software, if any exists.
Spreadsheet programs can also autogenerate graphs from the stored data columns, and the user can define the scale, colors and drawing style of the graph.
https://youtu.be/DM52xjSLGqs
I'm referring to something more along the lines of this: https://www.cloudahoy.com/
Toga - no I have not tried it in X-Plane, and thanks for the link to CloudAhoy. Looks pretty neat.
- Stekeller
KGED
Hardy,
I recorded a .csv file but I do not see Lat/Lon or UTC Time in the file. Would it be possible when you have the time to add those fields in the future?
Thanks,
Mark
The current output is an Embry-Riddle specific format used at the university; that shouldn't be changed.
I can implement another customer specific output format in one of the future PSX updates if you tell me what variables you need and at what update rate (please don't request 100 kB per millisecond).
Maybe someone else wants something similar; in that case you may discuss a common format?
Regards,
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Toga was looking for a csv for Cloudahoy.com and I am looking for the same thing. I can ask Cloudahoy for a sample of what they need and provide it to you?
Yes. Please show it in this thread.
Not wanting to blow smoke up anyone's ar.e but I think that the PSX software, Hardy's positive and quick approach to answering questions and making improvements, plus the detailed knowledge of forum members is absolutely fantastic.
Just thought Id mention it.
Quote from: peb on Thu, 7 Feb 2019 06:53
Not wanting to blow smoke up anyone's ar.e but I think that the PSX software, Hardy's positive and quick approach to answering questions and making improvements, plus the detailed knowledge of forum members is absolutely fantastic.
Just thought Id mention it.
Yep! It's indeed Unique! He's following he's own passion - but heck, it sometimes must hurt... ( Hoppie should know about that too :-) ... )
tacview The Universal Flight Data Analysis Tool
https://www.tacview.net/product/about
can handle csv files for post analysis and also supports x-plane, DCS etc.
Tacview's csv file format is easy to implement. Nice.
In their examples the time intervals are 4 seconds. Does Tacview's replay screen interpolate the data for higher frame rates? Or is it a slide show?
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Hi Hardy,
Here is a link for the Cloudahoy format:
http://help.cloudahoy.com/cloudahoy-csv-file-format/
Thanks for looking into doing this.
Mark
Hi Mark,
what parameters do you need?
Quote from: http://help.cloudahoy.com/cloudahoy-csv-file-format/The following is a list of recommended, but not mandatory, columns. If the data is available, it is used by the Analyzer. Otherwise the Analyzer computes the values.
degrees/HDG
degrees/MagVar
degrees/Pitch [nose up => positive value]
degrees/Roll [roll right => positive value]
degrees/Yaw [yaw right => positive value]
degrees/TRK
degrees/WndDr [true direction] and knots/WndSpd
fpm/VS
feet/ALT (baro)
fsd/HCDI and fsd/VCDI [values -1..1]
g/normAcc [in m/sec^2]
knots/GS
knots/IAS
knots/TAS
Engine data such as n/E1 RPM, degreesF/E1 EGT4, percent/power, degreesF/TIT1 and others
Control surfaces and gear position, such as degrees/flaps and down/gear.
E.g. if I include
degrees/Lat and
degrees/Lon, the Analyzer can compute ...
degrees/TRK
knots/GS... on its own and so I need not include them.
E.g. if I include
feet/ALT (GPS), the Analyzer can compute ...
fpm/VS... on its own and so I need not include them.
What's "fsd/HCDI and fsd/VCDI"? Is it horizontal CDI and vertical CDI? ILS needles?
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Hardy,
I'll leave it up to you on what to include since those are optional fields. My best guess is to include as much as possible from PSX to accurately map the flight path.
I am not sure what the HCDI/VCDI refer to so they can be left out.
Thanks.
4 seconds is the typical frame rate of flight data recorders (crash recorders). Within a frame, a variable may/will repeat a lot faster, so 4 seconds should not be the minimum resolution for true analysis. It may be that you hit upon a limit for the free demo? Just guessing.
Hoppie
Does anybody know CloudAhoy's Lat/Lon negative/positive setting?
North and east in positive numbers?
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Hardy,
Here is an example file from a Garmin G1000, Cloudahoy accepts this format.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/ootw70j8dxvsoza/log_140828_114033_KBED%20%281%29.csv?dl=0
Mark
Thanks, Mark.
I just need to know this:
E.g. is 45 North to be entered as -45 or 45?
E.g. is 120 East to be entered as -120 or 120?
It's not documented on their web site, as far as I can see.
Is your sample file a flight in the USA?
Edit: OK, it's KBED ... so north positive and west negative.
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