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Title: Very Alpha: BA CARD Web Edition
Post by: Gary Oliver on Fri, 18 Aug 2017 23:28
All,

I know a few of you who dont use BACARS wondered if you could still get the CARD performance data without using the CDU.

I had a quick play at knocking up a web version of the front end this evening as a small learning experience in ASP.NET.

Give it a go at http://ba747card.us-west-2.elasticbeanstalk.com/ but be careful as there is almost zero input validation so if you get an error message check you input boxes.

This uses the same underlying code as BACARS.

Cheers
Gary
Title: Re: Very Alpha: BA CARD Web Edition
Post by: G-CIVA on Fri, 18 Aug 2017 23:50
Nice job Gary!  Any chance of something web based like this for PW engines?
Title: Re: Very Alpha: BA CARD Web Edition
Post by: Tigh on Sun, 20 Aug 2017 15:49
Without putting words in Gary's mouth I doubt it as this is written for the RB211 powered BA airframes that Gary's sim is based on.
Title: Re: Very Alpha: BA CARD Web Edition
Post by: Mariano on Sun, 20 Aug 2017 16:45
Thank you, Gary.

Any chance you could make a download version for those instances when internet access is not possible?

Regards,

Mariano
Title: Re: Very Alpha: BA CARD Web Edition
Post by: Gary Oliver on Sun, 20 Aug 2017 17:55
Mariano,

I started writing a windows front end and then decided a web version would be more useful as if you are on windows you should be using the full BACARS suite from the CDU for a more realistic experience.

If I get bored one evening I might knock up a windows app to do the job though, no promises.

Cheers
Gary
Title: Re: Very Alpha: BA CARD Web Edition
Post by: Gary Oliver on Sun, 20 Aug 2017 17:57
Steve,

Dan is right, and also I'm cheating slightly as Benny did all the code for the performance calculations which is the same code used in BACARS.  I  think we only have RB211 data anyway?

Quote from: Tigh on Sun, 20 Aug 2017 15:49
Without putting words in Gary's mouth I doubt it as this is written for the RB211 powered BA airframes that Gary's sim is based on.
Title: Re: Very Alpha: BA CARD Web Edition
Post by: Mariano on Sun, 20 Aug 2017 19:04
Thanks, Gary, great tool.

Hoping you get bored one evening (soon) :-)

Regards,

Mariano
Title: Re: Very Alpha: BA CARD Web Edition
Post by: Gary Oliver on Sun, 20 Aug 2017 20:58
Mariano,

No doubt I will...

Have you tried BACARS? When running on the centre cdu go to BACARS then PERF REQ where you enter the same details as web card and it will pop up as a psx printout.

Cheers
Gary
Title: Re: Very Alpha: BA CARD Web Edition
Post by: Mariano on Mon, 21 Aug 2017 04:50
Thanks Gary,

I just tried it :-)

One question; the web platform correctly shows engines as 'G' variant, while BACARS shows them as 'H' variant.

Just trying to determine whether BACARS calculations are still for 'G' variant, matching PSX (even though printout says 'H').

Thank you,

Mariano
Title: Re: Very Alpha: BA CARD Web Edition
Post by: G-CIVA on Mon, 21 Aug 2017 07:20
Quote from: Gary Oliver on Sun, 20 Aug 2017 17:57I  think we only have RB211 data anyway?

What dost thou 'needeth' for the dirty smokey Pratts?
Title: Re: Very Alpha: BA CARD Web Edition
Post by: Gary Oliver on Mon, 21 Aug 2017 23:21
A well spotted typo which I will fix in the next version of BACARS, calculations are for G rated engines to match PSX.

Cheers
Gary

Quote from: Mariano on Mon, 21 Aug 2017 04:50
Thanks Gary,

I just tried it :-)

One question; the web platform correctly shows engines as 'G' variant, while BACARS shows them as 'H' variant.

Just trying to determine whether BACARS calculations are still for 'G' variant, matching PSX (even though printout says 'H').

Thank you,

Mariano
Title: Re: Very Alpha: BA CARD Web Edition
Post by: Mariano on Tue, 22 Aug 2017 23:07
Thanks Gary for supporting performance calculations for RRs.

Regards,

Mariano
Title: Re: Very Alpha: BA CARD Web Edition
Post by: nghtflght on Fri, 20 Oct 2017 19:51
Feeling a bit wet behind the ears here, is the return I get (below KJFK/04L), what does "F/L TOR 3460" and "KB TOR 2925" stand for?  Is this Full Length v's Intersection departure?  And are the numbers useable runway length in meters?  Thanks,
n.

F/L TOR 3460
*********
*FLAP 20* TOPL:400.0
*********
ATOW TEMP V1 VR V2
359.0 43 150 162 172
357.0 43 150 162 172
355.0 44 152 164 173
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

KB TOR 2925
*********
*FLAP 20* TOPL:370.4
*********
ATOW TEMP V1 VR V2
359.0 28 148 159 172
357.0 30 150 160 172
355.0 32 148 161 173
Title: Re: Very Alpha: BA CARD Web Edition
Post by: Gary Oliver on Fri, 20 Oct 2017 22:29
Hi,

I am assuming you chose INTS (intersections) when you sent your request.

What that means is the TOR (Take off run) length from F/L (full length of the runway) is 3460 meters.

The TOR from intersection KB is 2925m

TOPL is the take off performance limit in tonnes kgs, 400 and 370 respectively.

Note the TOPL can be more than the Max takeoff weight of the aircraft.

Keep the questions coming

Cheers
Gary
Title: Re: Very Alpha: BA CARD Web Edition
Post by: nghtflght on Mon, 23 Oct 2017 15:51
Perfect, that all makes sense, lovely piece of work! Thanks.
Title: Re: Very Alpha: BA CARD Web Edition
Post by: Britjet on Tue, 24 Oct 2017 10:13
It probably should be "TORA"...
Title: Re: Very Alpha: BA CARD Web Edition
Post by: Gary Oliver on Tue, 24 Oct 2017 13:44
Quote from: Britjet on Tue, 24 Oct 2017 10:13
It probably should be "TORA"...

Fixed in BACARS 3.5.2.3.3.2.3 beta 1