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Author Topic: Crosswind landing techniques for Dummies :-)  (Read 1325 times)

vnangli

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Re: Crosswind landing techniques for Dummies :-)
« Reply #20 on: Fri, 7 Aug 2020 02:43 »
Further advice: Let's say you see you are on the localizer but drifting to the right. So you want to turn left to stop the drift.

These points are going on my cheat sheet...Thank you.

Over these last 20 - 25 days that I have been practicing manual landing, I have to thank this forum. Every landing  attempt has added something to what I have learnt..

Sincere thanks
Everytime I see a 747, it makes me think how can this thing even move....Few minutes later, I see it flying...

nosrev16

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Re: Crosswind landing techniques for Dummies :-)
« Reply #21 on: Fri, 7 Aug 2020 03:42 »
try putting these parameters into any airport you wish to experiment on

 these are the windiest and gustiest places today for pilots


Station

Wind

Gust

Vis(SM)

Temp/Dew

Baro


K2WX 33 47  25/13 29.78
K2WX 070214Z AUTO 22033G47KT SQ 26/13 A2978 RMK AO1 PK WND 20047/0211 WSHFT 0200 PRESRR T02560133

PAVC 31 42 10 11/8 29.45
PAVC 070156Z AUTO 26031G42KT 10SM OVC015 11/08 A2945 RMK AO2 PK WND 25044/0057 SLP972 T01110083

K1HW 30 42 10 21/12 29.98
K1HW 070158Z AUTO 18030G42KT 10SM -SHRA FEW085 BKN100 22/13 A2998 RMK AO2 PK WND 19043/37 LTG DSNT E-SE SHRAE0057RAB19E30SHRAB30 TSB15E30 SLP114 T02170126 $

YCNM 30 42  11/11 29.70
YCNM 070200Z AUTO 07030G42KT //// // ////// 11/11 Q1006

RJCA 28 41 6.21 27/18 29.32
RJC

Station

Wind

Gust

Vis(SM)

Temp/Dew

Baro


K2WX 33 47  25/13 29.78
K2WX 070214Z AUTO 22033G47KT SQ 26/13 A2978 RMK AO1 PK WND 20047/0211 WSHFT 0200 PRESRR T02560133

PAVC 31 42 10 11/8 29.45
PAVC 070156Z AUTO 26031G42KT 10SM OVC015 11/08 A2945 RMK AO2 PK WND 25044/0057 SLP972 T01110083

PACD 30 40 7 10/8 29.43
PACD 070153Z AUTO 26030G40KT 7SM OVC012 11/09 A2943 RMK AO2 PK WND 26043/0127 SLP966 T01060089 TSNO

K1HW 30 42 10 21/12 29.98
K1HW 070158Z AUTO 18030G42KT 10SM -SHRA FEW085 BKN100 22/13 A2998 RMK AO2 PK WND 19043/37 LTG DSNT E-SE SHRAE0057RAB19E30SHRAB30 TSB15E30 SLP114 T02170126 $

YCNM 30 42  11/11 29.70
YCNM 070200Z AUTO 07030G42KT //// // ////// 11/11 Q1006
A 070121Z 20028G41KT 9999 FEW020 BKN040 BKN070 27/18 Q0993 RMK 1CU020 5CU040 7AC070 A2932

nosrev16

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Re: Crosswind landing techniques for Dummies :-)
« Reply #22 on: Fri, 7 Aug 2020 03:47 »
 Adelaide International Airport (Adelaide, AU-SA) 

WX MAP UNAVAILABLE Nearest METAR:
YPAD 070200Z 15008KT 9999 FEW018 BKN072 OVC096 09/04 Q1013 TEMPO 0300/0500 5000 RA BKN020 FM0200 MOD TURB BLW 5000FT FM0300 SEV TURB BLW 5000FT


YSCB App/Dep Canberra International Airport (Canberra, AU-ACT)
 
WX MAP UNAVAILABLE Nearest METAR:
YSCB 070200Z AUTO 16007KT 9999 -RA SCT029 BKN035 OVC044 07/07 Q1020 TEMPO 0200/0500 5000 RA BKN020 FM0200 SEV TURB BLW 5000FT


Metropolitan Oakland International Airport (Oakland, US-CA) 
ksfo Nearest METAR:
KSFO 070156Z 27022G31KT 10SM FEW006 18/13 A2987 RMK AO2 PK WND 27034/0123 SLP113 T01830128
« Last edit: Fri, 7 Aug 2020 08:50 by nosrev16 »

United744

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Re: Crosswind landing techniques for Dummies :-)
« Reply #23 on: Fri, 21 Aug 2020 02:51 »
Crossed-controls! Not many people can do it which is why it is vilified.

andrej

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Re: Crosswind landing techniques for Dummies :-)
« Reply #24 on: Wed, 28 Oct 2020 08:58 »
It seems that PIC in this incident used / followed wrong procedure, resulting in an engine pot strike.

And one more interesting quote:

"To deal with the crosswind, the PIC opted to use the ‘touchdown-in-a-crab’ technique. However, while he was aware that the FCTM had stipulated that pilots should aim at having the main landing gears touch down on the centre of the runway, he decided that he should aim at having the main landing gears touch down slightly to the right of the runway centreline. He believed this would allow a greater margin of safety from an excursion off the left edge of the runway should the aircraft be forced downwind during touchdown."

Emphasis are mine. As stated several times, de-crabbing method is preferred one.
Despite the fact that the wind was not very strong (7 kts), result was unnecessary. Could this be PIC's last flight with SIA or would he go to re-training?

https://avherald.com/h?article=4d07791d&opt=0

Cheers,
Andrej

Will

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Re: Crosswind landing techniques for Dummies :-)
« Reply #25 on: Wed, 28 Oct 2020 15:12 »
Apparently, the captain landed in a crab and then got disoriented, incorrectly thinking the aircraft had bounced and was airborne again, and then initiated a go around. In the go around, he used aileron to align the aircraft with the runway, resulting in the pod strike.

This probably wouldn't have become an incident if he had used rudder instead.
Will /Chicago /USA