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Author Topic: Aileron sensitivity using thrustmaster Warthog Hotas.  (Read 377 times)

Harvard4

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I find that the aileron sensitivity is too high for my liking using my thrustmaster warthog stick. I have tried various neutral settings between zero and 150. I have also failed the aileron lockout system over 300kts and then slowed down to circuit speed flaps 10 and that certainly helps. Has anyone tried to use the target system within the Thrustmaster software to change the aileron sensitivity for the PSX program.?

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Harvard4

Hardy Heinlin

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Re: Aileron sensitivity using thrustmaster Warthog Hotas.
« Reply #1 on: Wed, 19 Apr 2017 15:05 »
I have the same stick and I find it OK.

The roll rates in PSX agree very nicely with those of the real 744. Of course, this has nothing to do with the USB hardware but refers solely to the control wheel deflection; maximum roll rate occurs at max deflection, no matter whether max deflection is achieved by the mouse or by a USB input or by something else.

The roll rate not only depends on the aileron lockout and airspeed but also on the fuel weight in the wing tanks. The heavier the wings the higher the inertia.

I'm sorry, the roll rates cannot be modified. You need the full control in non-normal conditions etc.


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Harvard4

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Re: Aileron sensitivity using thrustmaster Warthog Hotas.
« Reply #2 on: Wed, 19 Apr 2017 15:16 »
Dear Hardy
I have been flying at AUW 250 Tons in the circuit so far so maybe I try higher weights and see what response I get.
Thanks for your quick response.

Harvard4

Will

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Re: Aileron sensitivity using thrustmaster Warthog Hotas.
« Reply #3 on: Wed, 19 Apr 2017 16:30 »
Make sure to look at the small flight control display in the upper left corner of the screen. The white control wheel should move from neutral to full deflection as your Warthog stick moves from center to full. If the control wheel display tracks your stick smoothly, then your controls are set up properly and all is working as advertised.

I also have the Warthog, and I find it makes a great combination with PSX.
Will /Chicago /USA

Jeroen Hoppenbrouwers

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Re: Aileron sensitivity using thrustmaster Warthog Hotas.
« Reply #4 on: Thu, 20 Apr 2017 00:25 »
And indeed, a 744 minus 150 tonnes of fuel, at the low end of its capacity, flies like a jet fighter.

Well almost    :-)

Certainly no fly by wire normalization going on.


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vito

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Re: Aileron sensitivity using thrustmaster Warthog Hotas.
« Reply #5 on: Thu, 20 Apr 2017 07:41 »
Warthog users, how do you simulate rudder - Warthog doesn't have axis dedicated for rudder ?

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vito

brian747

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Re: Aileron sensitivity using thrustmaster Warthog Hotas.
« Reply #6 on: Thu, 20 Apr 2017 09:17 »
Hi Vito!

This is going to sound boring I know, but I use rudder pedals.     ::)

If you really *must* find a solution using the 'hog, then I suppose you might consider using the "slider" axis (just to the right of the thrust levers), although I have a feeling that asking your brain to convert left/right rudder commands into forwards/backwards movements of the slider might drive you nuts. Either that or you'll be shopping for rudder pedals within minutes of having tried it....      ;)

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Brian
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Will

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Re: Aileron sensitivity using thrustmaster Warthog Hotas.
« Reply #7 on: Thu, 20 Apr 2017 18:12 »
I use rudder pedals as well.
Will /Chicago /USA

vito

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Re: Aileron sensitivity using thrustmaster Warthog Hotas.
« Reply #8 on: Fri, 21 Apr 2017 06:59 »
Guys, thanks for explanations ...

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vito

andrej

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Re: Aileron sensitivity using thrustmaster Warthog Hotas.
« Reply #9 on: Fri, 21 Apr 2017 08:38 »
Vito,

I also use rudder pedals. For tiller I use MIC switch, hence maybe you can use one of the buttons for the rudder pedals (for example CMS, TMS, or DMS, or MIC toggles).

As for the pedals, I have CH Pro Pedals and I am quite happy with them (for the time being).

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Andrej

dbw

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Re: Aileron sensitivity using thrustmaster Warthog Hotas.
« Reply #10 on: Tue, 25 Apr 2017 15:51 »
Glad to see high end controllers work fine. I have the Saitek X-65 that is no longer available. Been using it for years and happy with it. I have given thought to picking up the Warthog controllers. I've got this sim on order and may get it next week.
Dave / in Winnipeg / Canada

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Re: Aileron sensitivity using thrustmaster Warthog Hotas.
« Reply #11 on: Tue, 25 Apr 2017 18:20 »
I was about to buy the Warthog Hotas. Unfortunatly, being right handed, I am unable to use a mouse and its buttons with my left hand. That's the reason why I have the Thrustmaster T16000M controler that can be configured left or right handed. That way, during manual flight, I use the stick with left hand and the mouse for thrust , MCP, flaps, gear control with right hand (Like a captain ;))
I also have a CH product rudder controler