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Author Topic: The Fifth Pod  (Read 5173 times)

pcpilot

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The Fifth Pod
« on: Fri, 8 Jan 2016 19:40 »
A interesting article/video of Qantas delivering an engine to Johannesburg.

http://tinyurl.com/hlqgf33

Graham
« Last edit: Fri, 8 Jan 2016 20:05 by pcpilot »

Hessel Oosten

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Re: The Fifth Pod
« Reply #1 on: Fri, 8 Jan 2016 19:56 »
Great to see ! Thanks.

I've never seen this in PSX....

May be you discovered here a big bug..., that this feature is not implemented....  ;)......(yet).

Hessel

Hardy Heinlin

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Re: The Fifth Pod
« Reply #2 on: Fri, 8 Jan 2016 21:29 »
Page 323:

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Limitations in the Simulator:

... spare engine carriage operation is not modeled.

:-)

John H Watson

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Re: The Fifth Pod
« Reply #3 on: Fri, 8 Jan 2016 23:25 »
A switch in the Main Equipment Centre configures the automatics for 5th pod carriage... limiting such things as Vmo













Hessel Oosten

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Re: The Fifth Pod
« Reply #4 on: Sat, 9 Jan 2016 10:48 »
Hardy,

Ha, ha..., as I (pre)cautiously wrote: "Not yet"....
You won  :D

Hessel

Hessel Oosten

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Re: The Fifth Pod
« Reply #5 on: Sat, 9 Jan 2016 11:00 »
Is there anyone here who has ever seen this as an:

addon aircraft for our scenery generator(s) ?

José maybe ?

Hessel

Britjet

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Re: The Fifth Pod
« Reply #6 on: Sat, 9 Jan 2016 17:37 »
Never seen it as an add-on - but I've done it for real ...;-)
Peter

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Re: The Fifth Pod
« Reply #7 on: Sat, 9 Jan 2016 18:24 »
When is Easter?


Avi Adin
LLBG

Hardy Heinlin

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Re: The Fifth Pod
« Reply #8 on: Sat, 9 Jan 2016 18:48 »
How much rudder trim is required?

How much aileron trim is required?

How much fuel flow correction is required?

How much drag correction is required?

What's the additional weight?

Is it always under the left wing? Is left or right side selectable?

What's the VMO then?


|-|ardy


James H

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Re: The Fifth Pod
« Reply #9 on: Sun, 10 Jan 2016 04:14 »
Hi all,

When VH-OJS operated the QFA63 flight, it was negative RVSM. Does anyone have an insight into why this would be? OJS is ordinarily RVSM approved.

James.

John H Watson

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Re: The Fifth Pod
« Reply #10 on: Sun, 10 Jan 2016 08:07 »
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What's the additional weight?

The video mentions the weight. It should be around the same weight as an engine. The fan blades and engine hydraulic pump are removed, but then additional cowlings are added for streamlining. I understand PW's can be carried as well as RB211's.

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Is it always under the left wing? Is left or right side selectable?

Only the left wing.

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What's the VMO then?

330kts to 29,272.5', then 0.85 mach.

I don't have any values for trim, etc, but the support strut for the spare engine is only about 15' from the fuselage skin to keep yawing to a minimum.

Rgds
JHW





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Hardy Heinlin

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Re: The Fifth Pod
« Reply #12 on: Sun, 17 Jan 2016 09:53 »
jcomm, I just merged your new thread with this thread. It's the same subject (unless it was intended for promo).

Hardy Heinlin

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Re: The Fifth Pod
« Reply #13 on: Sun, 17 Jan 2016 10:07 »
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What's the additional weight?

The video mentions the weight. It should be around the same weight as an engine. The fan blades and engine hydraulic pump are removed, but then additional cowlings are added for streamlining. I understand PW's can be carried as well as RB211's.

He says "around 6 tons, just a little bit over". If I use an average of 6200 kg for all both* engine models, I guess that would be a reasonable figure. It just affects the minimum limit on the Instructor's ZFW scale anyway, as the ZFW remains flexible.


Cheers,

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* I just learned that GE engines "cannot be carried as a spare, as due to their design, there is a lack of ground clearance once mounted to the wing".
« Last edit: Sun, 17 Jan 2016 16:09 by Hardy Heinlin »

jcomm

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Re: The Fifth Pod
« Reply #14 on: Sun, 17 Jan 2016 11:42 »
jcomm, I just merged your new thread with this thread. It's the same subject (unless it was intended for promo).

Hardy,

I didn't see this thread before I posted mine.

« Last edit: Sun, 17 Jan 2016 15:10 by jcomm »

Hardy Heinlin

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Re: The Fifth Pod
« Reply #15 on: Sun, 17 Jan 2016 17:19 »
5th pod carriage option now available in PSX 10.0.7-beta1:

http://aerowinx.com/board/index.php?topic=3388.0

Note that FMC mods re internal FF, drag, and ECON SPD logic for 5th pod is not yet implemented.


|-|ardy

Hessel Oosten

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Re: The Fifth Pod
« Reply #16 on: Sun, 17 Jan 2016 18:43 »
My goodness !!!

Some things are unbelievable, this is one of them.

H.

jcomm

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Re: The Fifth Pod
« Reply #17 on: Sun, 17 Jan 2016 19:49 »
That's.... FAST!

Thx HH!

Hessel Oosten

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Re: The Fifth Pod
« Reply #18 on: Sun, 17 Jan 2016 20:59 »
Hardy,

Could you please give some clues, where to find the model with the 5 th pod.
I cannot find it.

Hessel

Will

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Re: The Fifth Pod
« Reply #19 on: Sun, 17 Jan 2016 21:05 »
You can add a fifth pod to the aircraft of your choice.

Instructor --> Situation --> Aerodynamics, then check the option on the top center of the page.
Will /Chicago /USA