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Precision Simulator update 10.129 (11 November 2020) is now available.
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If Gary plays along, he will add a credit card field on the RYR flight plan option.
Pit / Re: Discovery or invention?
« Last post by Will on Thu, 26 Nov 2020 18:30 »
With discovery, you dis-cover something, you take the cover off and reveal what's beneath. You discover something that was previously in existence, but hidden from view. You enter a room that is dark, you turn the lights on, and you then discover what is in the room.

With invention, from the Latin in (meaning into) and veniere (meaning come), something comes into existence, something that did not previously exist.

In the case of a²+b²=c², the relationship existed, but was not known until it was discovered. But with Figaro, that particular series of notes, in that particular order, with those particular words, did not yet exist as an entity until Mozart brought it into existence.

That said, in colloquial usage, the word "invent" usually applies to a device, not art. We don't say that Leonardo invented the Mona Lisa, but we would say that Lilienthal invented his glider.
Pit / Re: Discovery or invention?
« Last post by Jeroen Hoppenbrouwers on Thu, 26 Nov 2020 18:24 »
Add the concept of serendipity. That is stumbling unexpectedly on something that was always there, but never recognized as interesting or relevant, until the right combination of knowledge and luck came together.

Wikipedia states:
"Serendipity is an unplanned fortunate discovery. Serendipity is a common occurrence throughout the history of product invention and scientific discovery."

Maybe these words hold the key: product and scientific. A product definitely did not exist before it was invented (electric light). But the number pi did exist before it was discovered. What did not necessarily exist was a representation of pi. The example of a melody is still difficult, as it is not bound to a particular representation (notation, performance, instrument, scale, ...). But a melody in this sense may be in the same area as a story or image.
Pit / Discovery or invention?
« Last post by Hardy Heinlin on Thu, 26 Nov 2020 17:46 »
Philosophical mode ... on.

Many centuries ago, Friday afternoon, somebody was playing with rectangles and diagonals, and suddenly in that person's mind the correlation a²+b²=c² occurred. Was this correlation a human discovery or was it a human invention?

Some centuries ago, Sunday evening, Mozart was improvising on the piano, and suddenly a graceful melody occurred. He was surprised and excited. Was this graceful melody a discovery or an invention?

If it was an invention, there must've been a plan in his mind before the piano started to sound; and if there was such a plan, the result couldn't have been surprising. So, was it a discovery?

Or: Are there any inventions at all? I don't mean fictional things. Yes, there are invented stories and pictures. I mean inventions that do something in real life, like helpful math formulas or stimulant melodies or the electric light. Are such inventions discoveries? Is it absurd to say that the "Figaro" opera was discovered by Mozart?

Accessories / Re: Using Simfest Planning Portal For World Flight
« Last post by Toga on Thu, 26 Nov 2020 17:40 »
O Leary forgot to actually read Gary's post. I'll have 5 pilots fired immediately.
Accessories / Re: Using Simfest Planning Portal For World Flight
« Last post by Hardy Heinlin on Thu, 26 Nov 2020 15:32 »
O'Leary, why should Gary's todo list be shown on the portal? :-)

After vomiting all over my desk I have added it to the todo list for you :-)
Accessories / Re: Just to illustrate...
« Last post by Jeroen Hoppenbrouwers on Thu, 26 Nov 2020 12:34 »
This actually has been discussed in depth (of course). The whole technology to have less specialistically trained or experienced field technicians carry around remote gear to allow the specialist to do the inspection obviously has its merits.

And it has advantages to have your complete lab environment at home, directly at hand. Looking something up that was unexpected is much easier from my study than on a phone somewhere. The same holds for keeping detailed notes.

Yet it also comes (currently) with more restrictions. Every time I organize one of these surveys I need to prepare a detailed plan, which takes time, and setting up/tearing down also takes time. Moreover the technology is not good enough (yet) to be virtually present there towards other people, so everything needs to be relayed to local assistance. In the end you lose most of your usual capability to improvise on the spot and to make things happen.

The "normal" way of doing these things is to give yourself a block of time, such as a week or two weeks, in which you return to the same aircraft type multiple times and you work with it as if it were a lab. So if you find something on Monday, you work on it through the evening and then have a solution to try on Tuesday. With plans that need to be performed multiple days ahead, this quick response style is out of the window, and what took a week now takes two months.

And lastly I like being out there and sniff the aircraft environment, which is now basically lost. Imagine looking through a hand-held phone at a single panel during Worldflight.

I can see potential in either way, with a remote engineer backing up a local engineer. Whether the remote one is at home or at the office, doing support work, or the remote one is on the aircraft, doing hands and eyes, is not so important.

Ideally you have three links:

1. Direct voice contact with the remote engineer using his/her headset to get clear audio either way, still allowing him/her to walk around a bit.
2. One-way video using some camera thing (may be a phone) on a simple stand, so that you can put it on the central pedestal and aim it somewhere.
The same phone may do voice, using a Bluetooth headset.
3. On-the-aircraft PC with internet and some remote control software, so that you can operate it nearly as if you were there. PC connected to the survey unit in the equipment rack.

This typically requires proper cellular coverage, maybe a WiFi hotspot in a good location for better throughput, and sufficient power supply.

But it is all doable.  Next one this Sunday at midnight EST. That, of course, is the other problem.

Accessories / Re: Using Simfest Planning Portal For World Flight
« Last post by Toga on Thu, 26 Nov 2020 10:49 »
Call me O'Leary but I can't seem to find RYR in the planning portal.
Accessories / Re: Just to illustrate...
« Last post by Will on Thu, 26 Nov 2020 00:28 »
Very interesting. Let's say you're the man in charge. And let's say COVID-19 was eradicated tomorrow.

How many of your recent innovations would continue on? Would you go back to flying 15 hours to the other side of the world and sleeping in hotels? Or not?

Many industries, my own included, have been forced to innovate by the current circumstances, but we've come up with some things that are actually improvements on the old way of doing business. COVID-19 hasn't been all bad.
Hangar 7 / Re: The Best Computer Programming I have ever experienced
« Last post by Hardy Heinlin on Wed, 25 Nov 2020 21:20 »
It's Aerowinx/Preferences/Default.pref (or another special pref file if you start PSX with a special pref file).


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