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Title: FiFLi add-on - First officer and Flight attendant for PSX - beta 0.71
Post by: vito on Sun, 4 Jan 2015 19:22
If only I can call it add-on  .... :-)))

First I want to say "Hi" to all of you within this wonderful community, years have passed from when I first heard of PS1 and now we are all enjoying PSX, almost unbelievable what progress Hardy have made in such short time :-) I was humbled with complexity and art of simulation we are enjoying now ... It wasn't my intention to ever (in my wildest dreams) start write programs in Java :-) like Hardy :twisted: Almost two months ago I didn't know what is streaming in Java, how to read inputs from PSX, how to write variable to PSX or how to even write simple "Hello World" method :-) This is friendly warning :-)

Now, soon I will hopefully offer early beta version of FiFli - add-on for PSX I hope will make our long flights more "interesting" in terms of simulation some of totally unnecessary distractions, sounds and actions  :mrgreen: These are: first officer actions or when I really catch some java magic :-) maybe more complex actions like complete famous preflight "SLUGOS" actions and who knows where this will end :-) That's not all :-) We have also flight attendant actions which are for now reduced to announcements or briefings for various phases of flight. My inspiration was famous PS1 Flight Crew and the sounds for now are the same as in this great add-on (thank you Rodney Redwin and Jeroen Hoppenbrouwers). Also thank you Hardy for such complete introduction to networking and some programing techniques for add-on for PSX for idiots like me  :mrgreen:


These actions - briefings add-on can play for now: flight crew briefings for doors closed and ready for pushback, taxi out, cruise, approach and taxi in. Also when at the gate add-on will randomize ext power supplies, so you will get random ext pwr 1 or ext pwr 2 electric connection supply.

That's all for now, I will upload "FiFli" as soon I get some confirmations from Hoppie (as soon he gets on reading mails  :mrgreen: )

best regards

vito

edit:

Here is the download link to FiFLi complete package:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/1khy0ds3z3dzxzu/FiFLi.zip?dl=0

Here is the download link to FiFLi.jar file, latest version if you don't need complete package, just overwrite the old one:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/wvt0tz4ii3smtn8/FiFLi.jar?dl=0

Here is the link to PDF procedure guide for FiFLi:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/c5qiurpxw5r35tf/Procedure%20guide%20-%20FiFLi.pdf?dl=0

Briefing and action triggers - you must setup some of the PSX switches, buttons or levers into certain position so FiFLi can play correct briefing:

Boarding simulation:
--> Rotate FLT DK DOOR selector to UNLKD and release it. Doors must be open. This will initiate passenger boarding simulation - you will hear ambient noise of passengers boarding. Also boarding will take some time(cca 30+ minutes), first you will hear lovely voice announce boarding is starting and after the boarding is complete you will hear that boarding is now complete so you can continue with preparing for engine start ...
If you wish to end boarding early, just rotate FLT DK DOOR selector to DENY and release it. You will hear flight attendant telling you that boarding is complete and sounds of boarding noise will stop.

Firs officer will do his preflight duties:
actions start automatically after you rotate FLT DK DOOR selector to UNLKD and release it. Also when you do this boarding will start. You will hear First officer actions like:
   - announcing he is going to do a walk around (this will take cca 10+       minutes)
   - announcing he is back from walk around,
   - performing voice recorder test,
   - performing Fire Test,
   - testing the oxygen,
   - testing weather radar on his and Captain side,
   - announcing doors are closing (after the boarding is complete).
        - First Officer will setup radios according to the values found in "Instructor panel /           Situation / Human / Voice ATC" - this setup will happen after boarding is complete. It is important that you manually enter origin and destination into Instructor / Situation / Human / Voice - ATC fields before boarding is complete.  First Officer will then enter frequencies found in Instructor panel / Situation / Human / Voice ATC in next order (radio tuning panel left: RTPL, radio tuning panel right: RTPR):
   ground ---> RTPL Active
   tower ---> RTPL Standby
   departure ---> RTPR Active
   center ---> RTPR Standby

First officer will do "before start" actions after beacon is turned on, he will check if you forgot to do some of your "before start" items and he will do his (he assumes that you called for "Before start checklist")and after that he will be ready for your command to pull engine start switch after you move fuel control switch to run:
   - turns on APU and connects generators,
   - sets hydraulic system,
   - sets fuel system,
   - sets packs,
   - after you move fuel control switch to run he will pull  matching engine                start switch

First officer will execute runway entry procedure:
--> rotate FLT DK DOOR selector to DENY and release it. This will signal that you are ready to enter the runway so you are calling First officer to execute runway entry procedure. In this case First officer will: call flight attendants to take seats for take off, turn on landing lights, turn off taxi lights, turn on strobe, put XPDR to RA/TA position.

FA briefing: doors closed, pushback and taxiout:
-> all doors must be closed,
-> autobrakes must be in RTO position
-> beacon must be on

FA briefing: cruise:
-> altitude must be higher than 20000 ft
-> autobrakes must be in OFF position

FA briefing: approach:
-> altitude must be between 3000 and 10000 ft
-> autobrakes must be in either 1, 2, 3, 4 or MAX position
-> speedbrakes must be armed (this is important just for taxi in briefing not for approach briefing to be played),

FA briefing: taxi in:
-> flaps and speed brakes must be deplopyed
-> autobrakes must be in DISARM position
-> when you retract the speedbrake (this is the signal that we are actually of the runway) first officer will:
---> start the APU
---> turn off the landing lights
---> turn of the strobes
---> retract flaps
---> put XPDR to STBY position
---> turn off weather radar on his side,
——-> reset stab trim to neutral
---> and you will hear taxi in briefing

and final actions(randomize external supplies connections) happen:
--> only if the taxi in briefing was played
--> after autobrakes are in off position
--> and doors are open

All of the above triggers are already included in standard checklists (that means they are part of the standard procedures), so if you use PSX first officer and go through them or you play from your memory you should :-) hear all of the briefings.

beta 0.1
initial release :-)
FiFLi will: play briefings from flight crew for: doors closed, pushback, taxi out, cruise, approach and taxi in.
When at the gate FiFLi will simulate random Ext pwr connection - when doors are open you can expect ext pwr 1 or ext pwr 2 lights to illuminate. 

beta 0.2
small bug corrected - taxi in briefing would play twice, now should play only once :-)

feature added : after landing, when off the runway (trigger for this is speed brakes retracted) flight officer should turn the strobes off, landing lights, retract flaps and start the apu.

beta 0.2 - 0.39
stutters fixed :-)

beta 0.40
- added option to disable First officer
- FiFLI will indicate if connection to PSX is successful

beta 0.42
- added selection of two additional set of voices: English, USA and Dutch - Netherlands which also includes english briefing, which all can be selected via buttons on the main FiFLi window. playback may sound little distorted if you have your system volume to high so please lower it to get more pleasing sound !
- fixed First Officer deactivation after landing - taxi in briefing should now be played
- Flight Officer will after you land: retract speed brakes (which is signal that you are leaving runway): turn the strobes and landing lights off, retract flaps, start the apu, turn on taxi lights, put XPDR to STBY position
- IMPORTANT - added function of PA volume selector on Captain's panel: if the PA volume selector is ON (green light) you will hear PA announcements (briefings) - so be sure that is selected - allow few seconds for sound to start playing after you press PA into ON position or PA into OFF position
- added function of volume adjustment via the PA volume selector on the Captain's panel: now you can adjust volume of Flight attendant's briefings - be sure that it is not muted (arrow all the way rotated to lower left) - change in volume is not instantly, it will take few seconds ...
- And last important note: directory structure must remain identical to  folders in compressed file: you must have three additional directories in your main FiFLIi folder: ENBR, ENUS and NLNL with wav files.

beta 0.46
- slightly modified NLNL set of sounds to play more clearly when adjusting sound volume, also should apply for other voice sets
- new feature added: rotate FLT DK DOOR selector to UNLKD and release it. This will initiate passenger boarding simulation - you will hear ambient noise of passengers boarding. Also boarding will take some time, first you will hear lovely voice announce boarding is starting and after the boarding is complete you will hear that boarding is now complete so you can continue with preparing for engine start ...

beta 0.47
- you will now get "Cabin ready" when descending ...
- adjusted boarding simulation, now it takes at least 30+ minutes  :evil:  ...
also not to forget: If you wish to end boarding early, just rotate FLT DK DOOR selector to DENY and release it. You will hear flight attendant telling you that boarding is complete and sounds of boarding noise will stop.
- also tweaked boarding noise to sound better :-)
- feature added : First officer will execute runway entry procedure:
--> when you are ready to enter runway: rotate FLT DK DOOR selector to DENY and release it. This will signal that you are ready to enter the runway and you are telling your First officer to execute runway entry procedure. In this case First officer will: call flight attendants to take seats for take off, turn on landing lights, turn off taxi lights, turn on strobe, put XPDR to RA/TA position.

beta 0.48
- First officer now correctly turns off weather radar after leaving runway
- First officer now resets stab trim to 6.0 after landing and leaving runway

beta 0.49
- FiFLi will announce boarding time in its own window and also when boarding process is finished ...
- when you park at the gate FiFLi will randomize door opening side

beta 0.50
- randomize external supplies and open doors after landing when parked at the gate now should work more reliable :-)

beta 0.51
- boarding sounds now more loud (cca 20%)

beta 0.52
- FiFLi can be connected to various ports or host names - just enter your port or host name into respected fields
- added First officer cockpit preflight set-up actions - these actions start automatically after you rotate FLT DK DOOR selector to UNLKD and release it. Also when you do this boarding will start. You will hear First officer actions like:
   - testing the oxygen,
   - testing various systems on his side (for now only weather radar),
   - announcing he is back from walk around and doors are closing (after the boarding is complete)
- added First officer call "speed brakes are up" - you will hear this call when you land and if you accidentally extend speed brakes on the ground ...

beta 0.53
- First Officer will now do complete after landing checklist as specified in Aerowinx Precision simulator manual (After Landing procedures) on page 574. This checklist will start after you retract the speed brakes.
- fixed few typos in this "readme"
- First Officer will setup radios according to the values found in "Instructor panel / Situation / Human / Voice ATC" - this setup will happen after boarding is complete. It is important that you manually enter origin and destination into Instructor / Situation / Human / Voice - ATC fields before boarding is complete.  First Officer will then enter frequencies found in Instructor panel / Situation / Human / Voice ATC in next order (radio tuning panel left: RTPL, radio tuning panel right: RTPR):
   ground ---> RTPL Active
   tower ---> RTPL Standby
   departure ---> RTPR Active
   center ---> RTPR Standby

beta 0.54
- added few more First officer cockpit preflight set-up actions - these actions start automatically after you rotate FLT DK DOOR selector to UNLKD and release it. Also when you do this boarding will start. You will hear First officer actions like:
   - announcing he is going to do a walk around (this will take cca 10+       minutes)
   - announcing he is back from walk around,
   - performing voice recorder test,
   - performing Fire Test,
   - testing the oxygen,
   - testing weather radar on his and Captain side,
   - announcing doors are closing (after the boarding is complete).

- added replacement option for freighters who doesn't have the FLT DK DOOR selector ! Switches on the Center Audio panel are acting as the FLT DK DOOR selector switch:
   - Switch "INT" as FLT DK DOOR selector to UNLKD,
    - Switch "R/T" as FLT DK DOOR selector to DENY,

beta 0.55
First officer will do "before start" actions after beacon is turned on, he will check if you forgot to do some of your "before start" items and he will do his (he assumes that you called for "Before start checklist")and after that he will be ready for your command to pull engine start switch after you move fuel control switch to run:
   - turns on APU and connects generators,
   - sets hydraulic system,
   - sets fuel system,
   - sets packs,
   - after you move fuel control switch to run he will pull  matching engine       start switch

beta 0.56
- fixed bug: First officer didn't correctly "understand" in which flight phase we are, now it does :-)

beta 0.57
- fixed bug: First officer should now correctly setup his "Before start checklist" and pull engine start switches

beta 0.60
- few changes, internal code more optimized :-)

beta 0.60 - 0.62
- more optimizations :-)
 - First officer will now recognize if you have Aux Pump in system 1 and accordingly he will in his before start procedures move Hyd Aux Pump 1 switch to Aux

beta 0.63
- again more optimizations :-) FiFli should now be more robust in detect in flight phase
new additional info on main FiFli window: now you get how many minutes until boarding is complete, FiFli shows which flight phase is active so you can check if FiFli is correctly anticipating flight phase
all voices are again redone - to be more neutral and clear (I hope)
FO acknowledges engine starting sequence by announcing number of respective engine
Fo announces when he is ready for engine start

beta 0.64
quite a few changes are made for this version so don't  be to hard if some bugs jump out ….
few new options added:
Failures randomizer - if you are on the ground and before start it will add some unpredictability into your flight with adding some random undemanding failures - don’t check at the Instructor window and be prepared for surprise :-))) 
Move some switches - FiFLi will if you are at the ground and before start phase move some switches randomly - be aware, crew before you was a little sloppy at least :-)))
and Randomize ZFW - after all passengers been boarded you will get Final wight report

beta 0.65 —> beta 0.69
- FO option checked / unchecked now works - if somebody find it not working let me know
- Boarding simulation:
--> Rotate FLT DK DOOR selector to UNLKD or DENY and release it. Doors must be open. This will initiate passenger boarding simulation - you will hear ambient noise of passengers boarding. Also boarding will take some time(cca 30+ minutes), first you will hear lovely voice announce boarding is starting and after the boarding is complete you will hear that boarding is now complete so you can continue with preparing for engine start ...
If you wish to end boarding early, just rotate FLT DK DOOR selector to DENY or UNLKD and release it. You will hear flight attendant telling you that boarding is complete and sounds of boarding noise will stop.Stopping boarding process is now more robust, you still must wait cca 30 secs to stop it.
—-> FO will do silent taskst after all four engines has been started (before you do after start checks):
 - turn off APU
 - set up Hyd pumps
 - turn on window heat (if you forgot)
 - turn on AFT cargo heat
 - turn on the PACKS
 
beta 0.70
few new options added:
- Failures randomizer - if you are on the ground and before start it will add some unpredictability into your flight with adding some random undemanding failures - don’t check at the Instructor window and be prepared for surprise :-))) 
- Move some switches - FiFLi will if you are at the ground and before start phase move some switches randomly - be aware, crew before you was a little sloppy at least :-)))
- and Randomize ZFW - after all passengers been boarded you will get Final weight report.
- added replacement option for freighters who doesn't have the FLT DK DOOR selector !
- switches on the Center Audio panel are acting as the FLT DK DOOR selector switch:
- switch "INT" or "R/T" act as FLT DK DOOR selector to UNLKD / DENY on passenger aircraft

beta 0.71
- simulation of boarding (when you rotate FLT DK DOOR selector)  now also reflects in ZFW value being changed (increased), ZFW will automatically increase towards inserted Planned ZFW value (you can check this on CDU by selecting PERF INIT page) , also value entered in - Planned fuel will automatically trigger fuel loading - if values in respective fields stays “0” ZFW and Fuel will not be automatically updated / loaded
- Climb and cruize Flight attendant message is now played only when you are higher than minimum altitude (cca 10000 ft) and seat belts switch is tuned to auto or off

-- end
Title: FiFLi add-on - First officer and Flight attendant for PSX - beta 0.62
Post by: Hardy Heinlin on Mon, 5 Jan 2015 02:32
Quote from: vito
It wasn't my intention to ever (in my wildest dreams) start write programs in Java :-) like Hardy :twisted: Almost two months ago I didn't know what is streaming in Java, how to read inputs from PSX, how to write variable to PSX or how to even write simple "Hello World" method :-)

Yehaa :-) Congrats, Vito!


:-)

|-|ardy
Title: FiFLi add-on - First officer and Flight attendant for PSX - beta 0.62
Post by: Sylle on Wed, 7 Jan 2015 17:09
Hi Vito,

Great job! I had been hoping for a port of Hoppie's Flightcrew to PSX from the beginning.
It definately adds to the immersion and the feeling of having 'someone' sitting in the back :)

Thanks for developping FiFli!

Cheers,
Sylvain
Title: FiFLi add-on - First officer and Flight attendant for PSX - beta 0.62
Post by: Jeroen Hoppenbrouwers on Thu, 8 Jan 2015 00:10
But there already ARE people in the back! Just call the crew rest!


Hoppie
Title: FiFLi add-on - First officer and Flight attendant for PSX - beta 0.62
Post by: Sylle on Thu, 8 Jan 2015 03:53
Correct... I had forgotten about the grumpy dutch guy sleeping in the crew bunk ;)

S.
Title: FiFLi add-on - First officer and Flight attendant for PSX - beta 0.62
Post by: vito on Thu, 8 Jan 2015 10:16
Thanks Sylvain !

Hope it works as advertised :-)

best regards

vito
Title: FiFLi add-on - First officer and Flight attendant for PSX - beta 0.62
Post by: Hardy Heinlin on Thu, 8 Jan 2015 10:49
Hi Vito,

I just started FiFli and I can hear the lady loud and clear. It obviously works! :-)

In your readme you say "start with boost server on". Are you sure the booster is needed?

My boost server is off and it works anyway.


Cheers,

|-|ardy
Title: FiFLi add-on - First officer and Flight attendant for PSX - beta 0.62
Post by: vito on Thu, 8 Jan 2015 11:40
Quote from: Hardy Heinlin


My boost server is off and it works anyway. Are you sure the booster is needed?



I was thinking about future when I might needed it (for copilot) but for now I will leave this at pilot's discretion :-)

thanks

best regards

vito
Title: FiFLi add-on - First officer and Flight attendant for PSX - beta 0.62
Post by: Hardy Heinlin on Thu, 8 Jan 2015 15:06
Booster data are also provided by the main server. The booster is for motion sensitive add-ons only, e.g. scenery motion or platform motion at 48+ Hz. There's no point in using this high-speed service for a copilot add-on.


Regards,

|-|ardy
Title: FiFLi add-on - First officer and Flight attendant for PSX - beta 0.62
Post by: vito on Thu, 8 Jan 2015 15:17
Quote from: Hardy Heinlin

The booster is for motion sensitive add-ons only, e.g. scenery motion or platform motion at 48+ Hz. There's no point in using this high-speed service for a copilot add-on.



Ok, suggestion removed from "readme" :-)

best regards

vito
Title: FiFLi add-on - First officer and Flight attendant for PSX - beta 0.62
Post by: JP744 on Thu, 8 Jan 2015 19:38
Hello Vito,

Congratulations. Unfortunately, my PSX server freezes just after enabling flight attendant checkbox in the addon. If I quit the addon, PSX comes back to life immediately.
Title: FiFLi add-on - First officer and Flight attendant for PSX - beta 0.62
Post by: vito on Thu, 8 Jan 2015 20:03
Quote from: JP744

Hello Vito,

Congratulations. Unfortunately, my PSX server freezes just after enabling flight attendant checkbox in the addon. If I quit the addon, PSX comes back to life immediately.


Sorry to hear that. Do you have any other add-on active beside FiFLi ? Does it freeze every time you try it ? The only thing I can think off is that at the start FiFLI requests refresh of all non - delta variables from PSX.

best regards
vito
Title: FiFLi add-on - First officer and Flight attendant for PSX - beta 0.62
Post by: JP744 on Thu, 8 Jan 2015 21:44
I tried only with PSX and FiFli and have the same problem. I tried to wait but PSX remains freeze after 1 minute +
Title: FiFLi add-on - First officer and Flight attendant for PSX - beta 0.62
Post by: Hardy Heinlin on Thu, 8 Jan 2015 22:04
I've done a complete flight without problems.

OS X 10.9.5
Java jdk1.7.0_45
Title: FiFLi add-on - First officer and Flight attendant for PSX - beta 0.62
Post by: vito on Thu, 8 Jan 2015 22:32
Quote from: JP744

I tried only with PSX and FiFli and have the same problem. I tried to wait but PSX remains freeze after 1 minute +



What are you specs ?

mine are:

OS X 10.10.1
Java jdk1.7.0_71

or

windows 8.1
Java jdk1.7.0_67

edit:

antivirus or firewall blocking TCP/IP ?
Title: FiFLi add-on - First officer and Flight attendant for PSX - beta 0.62
Post by: OmniAtlas on Thu, 8 Jan 2015 23:22
For some reason I can't get any sounds to play?

What are the triggers for the .wav files?

Thank you.
Title: FiFLi add-on - First officer and Flight attendant for PSX - beta 0.62
Post by: vito on Fri, 9 Jan 2015 09:41
Quote from: OmniAtlas

For some reason I can't get any sounds to play?

What are the triggers for the .wav files?

Thank you.


First briefing should be played after: all doors are closed, auto brakes should be in RTO position and beacon should be on. After all these conditions are satisfied, flight attendant will wait a few seconds and start first briefing then will wait a few seconds and play a second briefing and after that you will get Cabin ready signal on the pilots's call panel.

best regards

vito
Title: FiFLi add-on - First officer and Flight attendant for PSX - beta 0.62
Post by: Robert Staudinger on Fri, 9 Jan 2015 15:32
Hello Vito,

thanks for you work, sounds pretty good but I have the same problem as JP744.

Everything starts as planned but after the first announcement just the PSX-server freezes (not the PSX-client) and wondrously FiFli continues with the second announcement and "Cabin Ready" appears. I can't get a third annoncement because PSX Server is frozen. As soon FiFli is disabled PSX gets alive again.

There is no other addon running and it is WIN7-64bit with JRE 1.8.0_25 or JDK 1.8.0_05.

Thank you, Robert
Title: FiFLi add-on - First officer and Flight attendant for PSX - beta 0.62
Post by: Robert Staudinger on Fri, 9 Jan 2015 15:59
The same is with jdk7 version.
Regards
Title: FiFLi add-on - First officer and Flight attendant for PSX - beta 0.62
Post by: Hardy Heinlin on Fri, 9 Jan 2015 17:13
Hi Vito,

for a test, you could deactivate all write actions in your add-on. Just let it read from PSX, not write.

And if that works, one could check which write action freezes the server. Maybe EXT power or CABIN READY or ...

Are you using any country specific characters?


Cheers,

|-|ardy
Title: FiFLi add-on - First officer and Flight attendant for PSX - beta 0.62
Post by: vito on Fri, 9 Jan 2015 19:24
Here are two new versions -  first is FiFLi_test_1 without pauses between actions, first second and third announcement will play simuntaneosly because pauses between briefings are removed :

https://www.dropbox.com/s/o9jif4ttyf9lu69/FiFLi_test_1.jar?dl=0

second one is FiFLi_test_2 without write actions but with pause actions as Hardy suggested:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/43nmmwshipcadof/FiFLi_test_2.jar?dl=0

best regards

edit:

Quote from: Hardy Heinlin


Are you using any country specific characters?



as far as I know I don't ..

here is latest beta slightly :-) reworked, you can download it here:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/u42lbwia726p7dq/FiFLi_beta_0_3.jar?dl=0

now use FiFli_beta_0.3.jar for testing

vito
Title: FiFLi add-on - First officer and Flight attendant for PSX - beta 0.62
Post by: GodAtum on Fri, 9 Jan 2015 20:00
thanks for this , i will test it on my flight tommorrow :)

how do i disable the FO actions?
Title: FiFLi add-on - First officer and Flight attendant for PSX - beta 0.62
Post by: vito on Fri, 9 Jan 2015 20:13
Quote from: GodAtum

thanks for this , i will test it on my flight tommorrow :)

how do i disable the FO actions?


de facto FO actions are disabled in second version FiFLi_test_2 because all write actions are disabled. I was planning to add this option separately in one of the future betas ....

best regards

vito
Title: FiFLi add-on - First officer and Flight attendant for PSX - beta 0.62
Post by: HercMighty on Fri, 9 Jan 2015 22:33
Had the same freezing problems as others with the first version. With V3 though I get the briefing it locks up PSX while the briefing plays and doesn't release until the flight attendant is unchecked. The last key pressed seems to then be done and I have control back.

For instance I was trying to move the view to a different view and couldn't until I unchecked it. Also the mouse cursor disappeared within PSX.
Title: FiFLi add-on - First officer and Flight attendant for PSX - beta 0.62
Post by: vito on Fri, 9 Jan 2015 22:40
Quote from: HercMighty

Had the same freezing problems as others with the first version. With V3 though I get the briefing it locks up PSX while the briefing plays and doesn't release until the flight attendant is unchecked. The last key pressed seems to then be done and I have control back.

For instance I was trying to move the view to a different view and couldn't until I unchecked it. Also the mouse cursor disappeared within PSX.


Did you try FiFLi_test_1 and FiFLi_test_2 ?

thanks

vito
Title: FiFLi add-on - First officer and Flight attendant for PSX - beta 0.62
Post by: HercMighty on Fri, 9 Jan 2015 22:44
Not yet, just tried the latest...I'll give them a go later tonight...
Title: FiFLi add-on - First officer and Flight attendant for PSX - beta 0.62
Post by: HercMighty on Fri, 9 Jan 2015 22:50
Ok, tried all of them...

Two notes:

1. Original, v2,v3 first briefing plays but PSX is locked until FiFLi is closed.
2. v1 works, other than the fact that all briefings play at once :)

Hope this helps
Title: FiFLi add-on - First officer and Flight attendant for PSX - beta 0.62
Post by: vito on Fri, 9 Jan 2015 22:56
Quote from: HercMighty

Ok, tried all of them...

Two notes:

1. Original, v2,v3 first briefing plays but PSX is locked until FiFLi is closed.
2. v1 works, other than the fact that all briefings play at once :)

Hope this helps


Yes, it helps, it played all at once because pause was removed from program.
Did you try FiFLi_test_1 after it played first briefings ? Did you get "Cabin ready" message ?

best regards

vito
Title: FiFLi add-on - First officer and Flight attendant for PSX - beta 0.62
Post by: Hardy Heinlin on Fri, 9 Jan 2015 22:58
Vito, what sound system are you using? Java Sound? OpenAL?

Maybe it's not a network problem, but a sound problem on certain computer systems.


Cheers,

|-|ardy
Title: FiFLi add-on - First officer and Flight attendant for PSX - beta 0.62
Post by: HercMighty on Fri, 9 Jan 2015 23:01
Quote from: vito

Quote from: HercMighty

Ok, tried all of them...

Two notes:

1. Original, v2,v3 first briefing plays but PSX is locked until FiFLi is closed.
2. v1 works, other than the fact that all briefings play at once :)

Hope this helps


Yes, it helps, it played all at once because pause was removed from program.
Did you try FiFLi_test_1 after it played first briefings ? Did you get "Cabin ready" message ?

best regards

vito



I did get Cabin Ready....
Title: FiFLi add-on - First officer and Flight attendant for PSX - beta 0.62
Post by: vito on Fri, 9 Jan 2015 23:12
Try this one, just overwrite original:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/wvt0tz4ii3smtn8/FiFLi.jar?dl=0

this is latest beta, I am suspicious on the "pause" method ...  :shock:

thanks

vito
Title: FiFLi add-on - First officer and Flight attendant for PSX - beta 0.62
Post by: vito on Fri, 9 Jan 2015 23:13
Quote from: Hardy Heinlin

Vito, what sound system are you using? Java Sound? OpenAL?

Maybe it's not a network problem, but a sound problem on certain computer systems.


Cheers,

|-|ardy



I am using javax.sound.sampled.*  8) Is that ok ?

best regards

vito
Title: FiFLi add-on - First officer and Flight attendant for PSX - beta 0.62
Post by: Hardy Heinlin on Fri, 9 Jan 2015 23:18
Should be OK.

Could it be that under certain conditions your add-on is flooding the server with data? Is there an infinite loop somewhere?


|-|
Title: FiFLi add-on - First officer and Flight attendant for PSX - beta 0.62
Post by: vito on Fri, 9 Jan 2015 23:24
As I can see it no, but will check again ....

thanks

vito
Title: FiFLi add-on - First officer and Flight attendant for PSX - beta 0.62
Post by: HercMighty on Fri, 9 Jan 2015 23:50
Latest file...locked up PSX until FiFli was closed....
Title: FiFLi add-on - First officer and Flight attendant for PSX - beta 0.62
Post by: vito on Sat, 10 Jan 2015 00:02
Quote from: HercMighty

Latest file...locked up PSX until FiFli was closed....


Ok, thanks, I'll try something else  8)


best regards

vito
Title: FiFLi add-on - First officer and Flight attendant for PSX - beta 0.62
Post by: JP744 on Sat, 10 Jan 2015 12:48
Quote from: Hardy Heinlin

Could it be that under certain conditions your add-on is flooding the server with data? Is there an infinite loop somewhere?


I remember when I was developing my Arduino C++ based interface. I had an if statement before my incoming data processing loop, making PSX server flooding like this. Changing my loop with a do...while solved the problem. Maybe it can help. Don't give up Vito, your add-on is a very good idea  ;)
Title: FiFLi add-on - First officer and Flight attendant for PSX - beta 0.62
Post by: vito on Sat, 10 Jan 2015 16:20
Quote from: JP744

Quote from: Hardy Heinlin

Could it be that under certain conditions your add-on is flooding the server with data? Is there an infinite loop somewhere?


I remember when I was developing my Arduino C++ based interface. I had an if statement before my incoming data processing loop, making PSX server flooding like this. Changing my loop with a do...while solved the problem. Maybe it can help. Don't give up Vito, your add-on is a very good idea  ;)


Thanks for support, we will find where the problem is  8). I'll look for similar symptoms :-)

best regards


vito
Title: FiFLi add-on - First officer and Flight attendant for PSX - beta 0.62
Post by: vito on Sat, 10 Jan 2015 21:38
Ok, here is the latest  8)  version FiFLi beta 0.32 :
FiFLi.jar - just copy over the old one

https://www.dropbox.com/s/wvt0tz4ii3smtn8/FiFLi.jar?dl=0

or complete package:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/1khy0ds3z3dzxzu/FiFLi.zip?dl=0


best regards

vito

edit: typo
Title: FiFLi add-on - First officer and Flight attendant for PSX - beta 0.62
Post by: HercMighty on Sun, 11 Jan 2015 02:11
Sorry didn't seem to help  :(

PSX becomes unresponsive until your application is closed....

Any help I can give shout....be a great application if we can get it running :)
Title: FiFLi add-on - First officer and Flight attendant for PSX - beta 0.62
Post by: vito on Sun, 11 Jan 2015 11:08
Quote from: HercMighty

Sorry didn't seem to help  :(

PSX becomes unresponsive until your application is closed....

Any help I can give shout....be a great application if we can get it running :)


Thanks on kind words, we will find what overloads PSX ! The only thing main thread is calling continuosly is the flight "attendant actions" method  - maybe here is the main problem - method is being called continuously without any control if it is already active - doing something (I don't know if this sounds understandable). Now I entered some control that should tell main thread that flight attendant is already "doing" something so it can't be called from within main thread if it hasn't finished what is doing :-) Will see if this helps.

here is link on latest beta 0.33, please try it :

https://www.dropbox.com/s/wvt0tz4ii3smtn8/FiFLi.jar?dl=0

best regards

vito
Title: FiFLi add-on - First officer and Flight attendant for PSX - beta 0.62
Post by: HercMighty on Sun, 11 Jan 2015 14:42
Maybe closer?

Ok, as has happened in the past. Load PSX, Load FiFLI, check Flight Attendant and then load 01 Departure 001. PSX locks me out as the first message plays.

This time after the first message plays I unchecked the flight attendant, and got control back, and then got an EICAS message saying I had a FMC Message. Look at the FMC and VSPEEDS are gone, and further looking the route is gone. Hmmm...

As I ponder this the other messages begin to play from the flight attendant and I remain in control of PSX....

So tried again...

Again PSX locks, but if I uncheck flight attendant I get control back...re-check Flight attendant after first message is played and other messages play and the FMC was not cleared...

Tried again with not checking the box until the situation was loaded but there was a delay until I could get control of PSX...was hoping that by checking the flight attendant after the situ was loaded would resolve the initial freeze but it didn't...

So maybe the issue is all to do with the situ loaded? Based on the state of the aircraft need to put in a protection? Detect that it is ready for message 4 say, and play that and give the cabin ready signal? Makes things complicated I know :)

Seeing as taxi out is impossible without some type of visual addon I been learning most of the A/C by starting from this point so far....

After which brief is the cabin ready supposed to come on? What is the trigger? Been letting it sit here, I think 3 messages have played but no Cabin Ready signal yet....
Title: FiFLi add-on - First officer and Flight attendant for PSX - beta 0.62
Post by: HercMighty on Sun, 11 Jan 2015 14:51
While waiting for the final playback from the flight attendant I found that I could not affect some changes in the sim...

For example, I couldn't change the brakes :(

Also, I could move the flap lever visually but the EICAS display never moved from Flaps 20 regardless of the position of the flap lever.

Hope this helps...
Title: FiFLi add-on - First officer and Flight attendant for PSX - beta 0.62
Post by: vito on Sun, 11 Jan 2015 16:14
Ok, thanks, let me see if this one works FiFli beta 0.34:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/wvt0tz4ii3smtn8/FiFLi.jar?dl=0

now the flight attendant is completely disabled, FiFLi just reads PSX stream. Now it should just make  connection to the PSX and that's it. Does this "work" ?

best regards

vito

edit:

"cabin ready" comes after first two briefings are played ...
Title: FiFLi add-on - First officer and Flight attendant for PSX - beta 0.62
Post by: Hardy Heinlin on Sun, 11 Jan 2015 16:16
Hi Vito,

can you show your ejected Q message strings in the console of your Netbeans/Eclipse IDE?

I mean, using this command:

System.out.println( string );


Regards,

|-|ardy
Title: FiFLi add-on - First officer and Flight attendant for PSX - beta 0.62
Post by: vito on Sun, 11 Jan 2015 17:11
Yes, the ejected Q message strings flow is ok !  :D PSX correctly shows in the network ---> main : client accepted, after the check box is removed: client disconnected. After that again connects correctly.
Title: FiFLi add-on - First officer and Flight attendant for PSX - beta 0.62
Post by: HercMighty on Sun, 11 Jan 2015 18:14
Ok, PSX does not seem to lock up with Flight Attendant checked.
Title: FiFLi add-on - First officer and Flight attendant for PSX - beta 0.62
Post by: vito on Sun, 11 Jan 2015 18:26
Ok, then we can assume that reading from PSX is done correctly.
Here is the link to FiFLi beta 0.35

https://www.dropbox.com/s/wvt0tz4ii3smtn8/FiFLi.jar?dl=0

now the attendant is again active but the pause thread is removed - not called. Also FiFLi sends message to PSX.

Try loading Basic 013 - Climbing to final cruise ... after situ file is loaded start FiFLi and make it active. Cruise briefing should be played immediately.
Title: FiFLi add-on - First officer and Flight attendant for PSX - beta 0.62
Post by: HercMighty on Sun, 11 Jan 2015 18:38
Ok, all seem good with that test....Progress!
Title: FiFLi add-on - First officer and Flight attendant for PSX - beta 0.62
Post by: vito on Sun, 11 Jan 2015 19:01
Quote from: HercMighty

Ok, all seem good with that test....Progress!


:-) PSX was responsive, no stutters ? If so then please load situ Basic 002 - On ground and doors closing. Go to the Model ---> Airframe and select Aircraft model  : Passenger. Now select the auto brakes to "RTO" this is trigger. While doors are closing start FiFLi. First briefing should be played (after doors are closed) and on the pedestal you should immediately see "Cabin ready" message.

Here is the link for latest FiFLi beta 0.35:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/wvt0tz4ii3smtn8/FiFLi.jar?dl=0
Title: FiFLi add-on - First officer and Flight attendant for PSX - beta 0.62
Post by: HercMighty on Sun, 11 Jan 2015 19:10
Ok, that is working :)

Doors closed, cabin ready indication, the Flight Attendant went through their speech....

PSX stayed responsive with no issues :)
Title: FiFLi add-on - First officer and Flight attendant for PSX - beta 0.62
Post by: GodAtum on Sun, 11 Jan 2015 19:19
Ok, a quick test and all seems good, no crashes :) this is also with Basic 013 - Climbing to final cruise.

is it possible to install FiFli on a different PC?
Title: FiFLi add-on - First officer and Flight attendant for PSX - beta 0.62
Post by: Jeroen Hoppenbrouwers on Sun, 11 Jan 2015 19:36
If FiFli is networked, there should be zero reason why it must be on the same PC as PSX.
Title: FiFLi add-on - First officer and Flight attendant for PSX - beta 0.62
Post by: Hardy Heinlin on Sun, 11 Jan 2015 20:48
Quote from: vito
Yes, the ejected Q message strings flow is ok !  :D PSX correctly shows in the network ---> main : client accepted, after the check box is removed: client disconnected. After that again connects correctly.

I was just asking because I was curious how your ejected strings look like, and how often they are ejected.


Regards,

|-|ardy
Title: FiFLi add-on - First officer and Flight attendant for PSX - beta 0.62
Post by: HercMighty on Sun, 11 Jan 2015 21:00
One suggestion...maybe expand the form to list say what the Flight Attendant things that will play and the triggers?

Don't know how easy it would be to update the form as ones are completed?
Title: FiFLi add-on - First officer and Flight attendant for PSX - beta 0.62
Post by: Jeroen Hoppenbrouwers on Sun, 11 Jan 2015 21:58
In general, experience has taught us (the hard way) that state machines that trigger on "normal, always happening" event sequences are quite tricky. Even the built-in PSX ATC Robot manages to escape "normal, routine" events if the pilot is just a bit out of his routine today. And some state machines are fiddly in getting back to work; ACARS OOOI is one of these.

In such a case it may help to at least document exactly what state machine (diagram) and trigger events (list) has been implemented, and sometimes also to post the current state of the machine somewhere out of the way but visible. This aids a lot in debugging and in searching why the machine seems to be locked up.

If at all possible, it is better to design a stateless machine. Usually this can be done by building a list of permanently monitored variables, and trigger an event when a specific combination of variables and exceedances occurs, without needing to know the current state (previous trigger). This is especially helpful when the stateless machine suddenly needs to cope with a midflight situation change. A state machine now gets hopelessly confused, while a stateless machine just picks up (and may go back from "landing announcement" to "takeoff announcement").


Hoppie
Title: FiFLi add-on - First officer and Flight attendant for PSX - beta 0.62
Post by: vito on Mon, 12 Jan 2015 10:31
Quote from: HercMighty

One suggestion...maybe expand the form to list say what the Flight Attendant things that will play and the triggers?

Don't know how easy it would be to update the form as ones are completed?


Yes, I was thinking to do that and I will soon as we escape this initial rumbling with beta! :-)
Title: FiFLi add-on - First officer and Flight attendant for PSX - beta 0.62
Post by: vito on Mon, 12 Jan 2015 10:34
Quote from: HercMighty

Ok, that is working :)

Doors closed, cabin ready indication, the Flight Attendant went through their speech....

PSX stayed responsive with no issues :)


Thanks for testing this, now I can safely say thst the problem is in "pause" routine or function.  8)
Title: FiFLi add-on - First officer and Flight attendant for PSX - beta 0.62
Post by: vito on Mon, 12 Jan 2015 10:39
Hardy, can you suggest how to implement wait or pause function? Mine obviously is not working correctly, it messed with main thread and managed to disrupt even PSX. This is not trivial and mine expirience / knowledge here is  at least  ... 8)


Best regards

Vito
Title: FiFLi add-on - First officer and Flight attendant for PSX - beta 0.62
Post by: Hardy Heinlin on Mon, 12 Jan 2015 12:25
The wait and pause is already implemented if you're using my code example in AddonExampleNetThread.java.


while (true) {
   if ((message = in.readLine()) != null) {
      try {
         if (message.charAt(0) == 'Q') {
etc.


in.readLine() blocks (pauses) until a new message has arrived in the BufferedReader (called "in"). This "while" loop runs in a separate thread, so it blocks only itself.


Cheers,

|-|ardy
Title: FiFLi add-on - First officer and Flight attendant for PSX - beta 0.62
Post by: vito on Mon, 12 Jan 2015 19:12
Thanks for idea Hardy :mrgreen:  !

Now, here is latest beta FiFLi 0.36, just overwrite the original jar. The wait function is now written in the way Hardy suggested.

For quick test please load again Basic 013 - Climbing to final cruise ... after situ file is loaded start FiFLi and make it active. Cruise briefing should be played AFTER the pause which is cca 15 secs.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/wvt0tz4ii3smtn8/FiFLi.jar?dl=0

best regards

vito
Title: FiFLi add-on - First officer and Flight attendant for PSX - beta 0.62
Post by: HercMighty on Tue, 13 Jan 2015 00:55
Better, but there is a noticeable freeze to PSX. Freeze's for a few seconds, but once clears the sim comes back under user control, don't have to close your app.
Title: FiFLi add-on - First officer and Flight attendant for PSX - beta 0.62
Post by: vito on Tue, 13 Jan 2015 10:48
Thanks for report!   :D

Best regards
Vito
Title: FiFLi add-on - First officer and Flight attendant for PSX - beta 0.62
Post by: vito on Tue, 13 Jan 2015 10:54
Quote from: Jeroen Hoppenbrouwers


If at all possible, it is better to design a stateless machine. Usually this can be done by building a list of permanently monitored variables, and trigger an event when a specific combination of variables and exceedances occurs, without needing to know the current state (previous trigger). This is especially helpful when the stateless machine suddenly needs to cope with a midflight situation change. A state machine now gets hopelessly confused, while a stateless machine just picks up (and may go back from "landing announcement" to "takeoff announcement").


Hoppie


Thanks for suggestions! I designed FiFLi to catch up with any flight phase, at least it should do  8) but certainly there is big room for improvements. As soon as I can I will document trigers and flight phases.

Best regards

Vito
Title: FiFLi add-on - First officer and Flight attendant for PSX - beta 0.62
Post by: OmniAtlas on Wed, 14 Jan 2015 01:31
Hi Vito,

PSX freezes shortly after the first sound trigger is played.
This is with your latest beta, 0.36.

Regards,

Ben
Title: FiFLi add-on - First officer and Flight attendant for PSX - beta 0.62
Post by: vito on Wed, 14 Jan 2015 06:41
Quote from: OmniAtlas

Hi Vito,

PSX freezes shortly after the first sound trigger is played.
This is with your latest beta, 0.36.

Regards,

Ben


Thanks  on your report Ben! After first freeze does it continue to work normal?

Best regards
Vito
Title: FiFLi add-on - First officer and Flight attendant for PSX - beta 0.62
Post by: Robert Staudinger on Wed, 14 Jan 2015 16:27
Hallo Vito,

I did some tests:

Flight Attendant ACTIVE

Beacon ON, Autobrakes RTO, Doors AUTO. At the same time I start the clock on the client instance.

after 60':     BRIEF1 starts and server instance freezes, Client o.k.
after 180':   BRIEF2 starts
after 270':   BRIEF3 starts and server unfreezes and client clock resets, PSX works correct now.

After t/o no announcement anymore, when commencing descent and slowing down server freezes again and stays frozen - client o.k.

I hope this helps, Robert
Title: FiFLi add-on - First officer and Flight attendant for PSX - beta 0.62
Post by: vito on Wed, 14 Jan 2015 18:23
Quote from: Robert Staudinger


After t/o no announcement anymore, when commencing descent and slowing down server freezes again and stays frozen - client o.k.

I hope this helps, Robert


Thank you for report Robert !
What did you mean by statement above ?  Did PSX froze after you have landed and you couldn't get control of it or you mean that briefing just didn't play  ?

When climbing you must pass 20000 ft and auto brakes should be in OFF position for briefing to be played.

When descending you must pass below 10000 ft and auto brakes should be selected: 1, 2, 3, 4 or MAX for briefing to be played.

Can you please load Basic 013 - Climbing to final cruise ... after situ file is loaded start FiFLi and make it active. Cruise briefing should be played AFTER the pause which is cca 15 secs.

Thank you !

best regards

vito
Title: FiFLi add-on - First officer and Flight attendant for PSX - beta 0.62
Post by: vito on Wed, 14 Jan 2015 19:22
Here are triggers for various briefings that FiFLi can play:

doors closed, pushback and taxiout:
-> all doors must be closed,
-> autobrakes must be in RTO position
-> beacon must be on

cruise:
-> altitude must be higher than 20000 ft
-> autobrakes must be in OFF position

approach:
-> altitude must be between 3000 and 10000 ft
-> autobrakes must be in either 1, 2, 3 4 or MAX position
-> speedbrakes must be armed (this is important just for taxi in briefing not for approach briefing to be played),

taxi in:
-> flaps and speed brakes must be deplopyed
-> autobrakes must be in DISARM position
-> when you retract the speedbrake (this is the signal that we are actually of the runway) first officer will:
---> start the APU
---> turn off the landing lights
---> turn of the strobes
---> retract flaps
---> and you will hear taxi in briefing

and final actions(randomize external supplies connections) happen:
--> only if the taxi in briefing was played
--> after autobrakes are in off position
--> and doors are open

All of the above triggers are already included in standard checklists (that means they are part of the standard procedures), so if you use PSX first officer and go through them or you play from your memory you should :-) hear all of the briefings.

Best regards

vito
Title: FiFLi add-on - First officer and Flight attendant for PSX - beta 0.62
Post by: Hardy Heinlin on Wed, 14 Jan 2015 21:09
Hi Vito,

I believe these details are just side effects of another bigger, fundamental coding error somewhere in your network functions -- which freezes the server.

I would suggest to post the essential part of your code here in the forum (subforum "Networkers", that's visible only to members). Maybe some of us Java coders will help finding the error? (On the other hand, I can also understand if you want to keep it all private as your personal challenge and adventure. Just a suggestion :-))


Cheers,

|-|ardy
Title: FiFLi add-on - First officer and Flight attendant for PSX - beta 0.62
Post by: Robert Staudinger on Thu, 15 Jan 2015 15:53
Hi Vito,

thanks for your list of triggers - so I checked again.

As before between BRIEF1 and BRIEF3 PSX is frozen.

Thereafter everything is normal, BRIEF4 comes about 10sec after reaching FL200 and BRIEF5  comes 30sec after setting the autobrakes.

The taxi-in actions spool off (APU, landing lights, strobes, flaps) correct but after this, PSX is frozen for about 25sec, awakes again and BRIEF6 is playing.

I hope you are able to remove this bugs. Your add-on is very useful to simulate distractions while taxiing and flying. I suggest to include the list of triggers in your final download and maybe it is possible to connect this announcements with the setting of the audio control panel (CAB or PA).

Good luck, Robert
Title: FiFLi add-on - First officer and Flight attendant for PSX - beta 0.62
Post by: vito on Thu, 15 Jan 2015 19:40
Quote from: Robert Staudinger

Hi Vito,

thanks for your list of triggers - so I checked again.

As before between BRIEF1 and BRIEF3 PSX is frozen.

Thereafter everything is normal, BRIEF4 comes about 10sec after reaching FL200 and BRIEF5  comes 30sec after setting the autobrakes.

The taxi-in actions spool off (APU, landing lights, strobes, flaps) correct but after this, PSX is frozen for about 25sec, awakes again and BRIEF6 is playing.

I hope you are able to remove this bugs. Your add-on is very useful to simulate distractions while taxiing and flying. I suggest to include the list of triggers in your final download and maybe it is possible to connect this announcements with the setting of the audio control panel (CAB or PA).

Good luck, Robert


thanks it helps a lot !  :D

best regards

vito
Title: FiFLi add-on - First officer and Flight attendant for PSX - beta 0.62
Post by: vito on Thu, 15 Jan 2015 19:41
Quote from: Hardy Heinlin

Hi Vito,

I believe these details are just side effects of another bigger, fundamental coding error somewhere in your network functions -- which freezes the server.

I would suggest to post the essential part of your code here in the forum (subforum "Networkers", that's visible only to members). Maybe some of us Java coders will help finding the error? (On the other hand, I can also understand if you want to keep it all private as your personal challenge and adventure. Just a suggestion :-))


Cheers,

|-|ardy



Thanks Hardy, let me keep my dirty laundry just a few days more and after that ...  :D

best regards

vito
Title: FiFLi add-on - First officer and Flight attendant for PSX - beta 0.62
Post by: vito on Fri, 16 Jan 2015 21:27
Here is latest FiFLi beta 0.37:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/wvt0tz4ii3smtn8/FiFLi.jar?dl=0

just overwrite the old one :-)

best regards

vito
Title: FiFLi add-on - First officer and Flight attendant for PSX - beta 0.62
Post by: Robert Staudinger on Sat, 17 Jan 2015 09:39
Hi Vito,

sorry to say that, the same behavior as before.

Regards, Robert
Title: FiFLi add-on - First officer and Flight attendant for PSX - beta 0.62
Post by: vito on Sat, 17 Jan 2015 13:00
Quote from: Robert Staudinger

Hi Vito,

sorry to say that, the same behavior as before.

Regards, Robert


Will try something else ...  ;)

best regards

vito
Title: FiFLi add-on - First officer and Flight attendant for PSX - beta 0.62
Post by: vito on Sat, 17 Jan 2015 18:50
Here is latest FiFLi beta 0.39, just overwrite the old one :

https://www.dropbox.com/s/1khy0ds3z3dzxzu/FiFLi.zip?dl=0

Now it works without stutters  :D and special thanks to Robert for testing !

Best regards

vito
Title: FiFLi add-on - First officer and Flight attendant for PSX - beta 0.62
Post by: vito on Fri, 23 Jan 2015 16:03
Here is the latest version of FiFLi beta 0.40  :D :

added:
- indication of connection to PSX
- option to disable First Officer

link to FiFLi complete package:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/1khy0ds3z3dzxzu/FiFLi.zip?dl=0

or just FiFLi.jar (justo overwrite old jar file):

https://www.dropbox.com/s/wvt0tz4ii3smtn8/FiFLi.jar?dl=0

best ragards

vito
Title: FiFLi add-on - First officer and Flight attendant for PSX - beta 0.62
Post by: Sylle on Sat, 24 Jan 2015 13:08
Hi Vito,

Did a full flight with v0.39 a few days ago and it worked flawlessly! No freezes anymore :)
Will try v0.40 very soon...

Thanks for this great addon!

Cheers,
Sylvain
Title: FiFLi add-on - First officer and Flight attendant for PSX - beta 0.62
Post by: vito on Sun, 25 Jan 2015 12:30
Quote from: Sylle

Hi Vito,

Did a full flight with v0.39 a few days ago and it worked flawlessly! No freezes anymore :)
Will try v0.40 very soon...

Thanks for this great addon!

Cheers,
Sylvain



Hi Sylvain, I am glad that you like it and that it works now  :D

best regards

vito
Title: FiFLi add-on - First officer and Flight attendant for PSX - beta 0.62
Post by: Horst on Mon, 26 Jan 2015 06:36
Hi,
a short video would be nice.

thankyou
Horst
Title: FiFLi add-on - First officer and Flight attendant for PSX - beta 0.62
Post by: Horst on Tue, 27 Jan 2015 07:36
Hi,

... it works fine, thank you.
Perhaps I make the video ...
Horst
Title: FiFLi add-on - First officer and Flight attendant for PSX - beta 0.62
Post by: vito on Tue, 27 Jan 2015 13:02
Thank you :)

Best regards
Vito
Title: FiFLi add-on - First officer and Flight attendant for PSX - beta 0.62
Post by: Horst on Tue, 27 Jan 2015 18:08
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=klZEddeVdRQ&feature=youtu.be



here is the video ...

Horst
Title: FiFLi add-on - First officer and Flight attendant for PSX - beta 0.62
Post by: vito on Tue, 27 Jan 2015 19:33
Impressive cockpit setup and thank you for the video :-)

Best regards

Vito
Title: FiFLi add-on - First officer and Flight attendant for PSX - beta 0.62
Post by: Sylle on Wed, 28 Jan 2015 16:55
Hello Vito,

Seems I have a small issue with v0.40

If I select 'First Officer deactivated' in FiFli the cabin attendant briefing for taxi-in phase (after landing) is never being played.

The cabin briefings for takeoff are working correctly, even with F/O deactivated.

Cheers,
Sylvain
Title: FiFLi add-on - First officer and Flight attendant for PSX - beta 0.62
Post by: vito on Wed, 28 Jan 2015 20:04
Quote from: Sylle

Hello Vito,

Seems I have a small issue with v0.40

If I select 'First Officer deactivated' in FiFli the cabin attendant briefing for taxi-in phase (after landing) is never being played.

The cabin briefings for takeoff are working correctly, even with F/O deactivated.

Cheers,
Sylvain


Thanks Sylvain, found the bug, it will be corrected in next version  :)

Best regards
Vito
Title: FiFLi add-on - First officer and Flight attendant for PSX - beta 0.62
Post by: Sylle on Thu, 29 Jan 2015 10:11
Hi Vito,

I tried to contact you via email with the address found on your website (@zg.tel.hr) but received a delivery failure notification.
How can we get in touch?

Cheers,
Sylvain
Title: FiFLi add-on - First officer and Flight attendant for PSX - beta 0.62
Post by: vito on Thu, 29 Jan 2015 12:32
Try with: ...@icloud.com. Thanks!

Best regards
Vito
Title: FiFLi add-on - First officer and Flight attendant for PSX - beta 0.62
Post by: vito on Sat, 31 Jan 2015 16:45
Ok here is latest version of FiFLi:

full package:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/1khy0ds3z3dzxzu/FiFLi.zip?dl=0

You will need full package because this version has added two new voice sets: ENUS and NL voice packs.

Here are the changes:

beta 0.42
- added selection of two additional set of voices: English, USA and Dutch - Netherlands which also includes english briefing, which all can be selected via buttons on the main FiFLi window. playback may sound little distorted if you have your system volume to high so please lower it to get more pleasing sound !
- fixed First Officer deactivation after landing - taxi in briefing should now be played
- Flight Officer will after you land: retract speed brakes (which is signal that you are leaving runway): turn the strobes and landing lights off, retract flaps, start the apu, turn on taxi lights, put XPDR to STBY position
- IMPORTANT - added function of PA volume selector on Captain's panel: if the PA volume selector is ON (green light) you will hear PA announcements (briefings) - so be sure that is selected - allow few seconds for sound to start playing after you press PA into ON position or PA into OFF position
- added function of volume adjustment via the PA volume selector on the Captain's panel: now you can adjust volume of Flight attendant's briefings - be sure that it is not muted (arrow all the way rotated to lower left) - change in volume is not instantly, it will take few seconds ...
- And last important note: directory structure must remain identical to  folders in compressed file: you must have three additional directories in your main FiFLIi folder: ENBR, ENUS and NLNL with wav files.

Happy flying !

Best regards
vito
Title: FiFLi add-on - First officer and Flight attendant for PSX - beta 0.62
Post by: DougSnow on Sun, 1 Feb 2015 03:25
I flew with it last nite, a real time YSSY-KLAX, and it was very cool. It was nice to get some help from the FO for the after landing flows, about time he pulled his weight!

However, freighters dont have flight attendants.

Any chance we could get one with the FAs as optional?
Title: FiFLi add-on - First officer and Flight attendant for PSX - beta 0.62
Post by: vito on Sun, 1 Feb 2015 09:21
Quote from: DougSnow

I flew with it last nite, a real time YSSY-KLAX, and it was very cool. It was nice to get some help from the FO for the after landing flows, about time he pulled his weight!


:-)

Quote from: DougSnow

However, freighters dont have flight attendants.

Any chance we could get one with the FAs as optional?


just push PA selector on Captain radio panel and you won't hear a word from flight attendant :-) and Flight officer will still work. For future versions I will add this option.

best regards

vito
Title: FiFLi add-on - First officer and Flight attendant for PSX - beta 0.62
Post by: Robert Staudinger on Sun, 1 Feb 2015 12:15
Hi Vito,

runs very smooth now.

Thank you, Robert
Title: FiFLi add-on - First officer and Flight attendant for PSX - beta 0.62
Post by: Jeroen Hoppenbrouwers on Sun, 1 Feb 2015 12:43
Uw, we need to update the recordings ... we need to add new electronic handheld devices, difference between WiFi and 3G/4G modes, allowances to switch 3G/4G on immediately after landing, relationship to doors open/closed, airplane mode ... and WiFi available above 10,000 ft, Twitter hashtag, hate us on Feestboek, apologies for the delay due to our paperwork and Brussels flow control, availability of the nearest working power outlet for your chargers, location of the inflight snack purchase price list, ...

Times have changed since I recorded all that stuff, what, 13 years ago (http://www.hoppie.nl/flcrew/progress.html) (Nov 23, 2002). Yaiks!


Hoppie
Title: FiFLi add-on - First officer and Flight attendant for PSX - beta 0.62
Post by: vito on Sun, 1 Feb 2015 12:52
Quote from: Jeroen Hoppenbrouwers

Uw, we need to update the recordings ... we need to add new electronic handheld devices, difference between WiFi and 3G/4G modes, allowances to switch 3G/4G on immediately after landing, relationship to doors open/closed, airplane mode ... and WiFi available above 10,000 ft, Twitter hashtag, hate us on Feestboek, apologies for the delay due to our paperwork and Brussels flow control, availability of the nearest working power outlet for your chargers, location of the inflight snack purchase price list, ...

Times have changed since I recorded all that stuff, what, 13 years ago (http://www.hoppie.nl/flcrew/progress.html) (Nov 23, 2002). Yaiks!


Hoppie


Cheers ! Thanks Hoopie, Dutch briefings are the best :-)
and Robert, glad that it works now :-)

best regards

vito
Title: FiFLi add-on - First officer and Flight attendant for PSX - beta 0.62
Post by: vito on Sat, 7 Feb 2015 20:51
Good evening,

you can download latest beta full package (this is recomended because of changes in wav files):

https://www.dropbox.com/s/wvt0tz4ii3smtn8/FiFLi.jar?dl=0

Changes and new features are  :mrgreen: :

beta 0.46
- slightly modified NLNL set of sounds to play more clearly when adjusting PA sound volume, also should apply for other voice sets
- new feature added: rotate FLT DK DOOR selector to UNLKD and release it. This will initiate passenger boarding simulation - you will hear ambient noise of passengers boarding. Also boarding will take some time (cca 10 minutes), first you will hear lovely voice announce boarding is starting and after the boarding is complete you will hear that boarding is complete so you can continue with preparing for engine start ...

best regards


vito
Title: FiFLi add-on - First officer and Flight attendant for PSX - beta 0.62
Post by: Jeroen Hoppenbrouwers on Sat, 7 Feb 2015 22:50
Quote from: vito

This will initiate passenger boarding simulation - you will hear ambient noise of passengers boarding. Also boarding will take some time (ca 10 minutes), ...

Which disciplined country is this? A full 744 in 10 minutes?     :twisted:
Title: FiFLi add-on - First officer and Flight attendant for PSX - beta 0.62
Post by: OmniAtlas on Sun, 8 Feb 2015 01:06
Quote from: Jeroen Hoppenbrouwers

Quote from: vito

This will initiate passenger boarding simulation - you will hear ambient noise of passengers boarding. Also boarding will take some time (ca 10 minutes), ...

Which disciplined country is this? A full 744 in 10 minutes?     :twisted:


Jeroen, didn't you watch that Myth Buster special? :)
Title: FiFLi add-on - First officer and Flight attendant for PSX - beta 0.62
Post by: GodAtum on Sun, 8 Feb 2015 10:19
Quote from: vito

Good evening,

you can download latest beta full package (this is recomended because of changes in wav files):

https://www.dropbox.com/s/wvt0tz4ii3smtn8/FiFLi.jar?dl=0



Hi Vito, the link only downloads the jar file. Do we need the full Zip 0.46 too?
Title: FiFLi add-on - First officer and Flight attendant for PSX - beta 0.62
Post by: vito on Sun, 8 Feb 2015 11:50
Quote from: GodAtum


Hi Vito, the link only downloads the jar file. Do we need the full Zip 0.46 too?


Apologies, here is link for complete package:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/1khy0ds3z3dzxzu/FiFLi.zip?dl=0

and here for jar file:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/wvt0tz4ii3smtn8/FiFLi.jar?dl=0

Yes, you need complete package because some changes are made in wav files and if I remember correctly some wav files are added. In few moments I will put beta 0.47 with some new nice features :-), right now I am checking it  8)

best regards !

vito
Title: FiFLi add-on - First officer and Flight attendant for PSX - beta 0.62
Post by: vito on Sun, 8 Feb 2015 11:56
Quote from: Jeroen Hoppenbrouwers

Quote from: vito

This will initiate passenger boarding simulation - you will hear ambient noise of passengers boarding. Also boarding will take some time (ca 10 minutes), ...

Which disciplined country is this? A full 744 in 10 minutes?     :twisted:



global economy is still in recession, we have only few passengers per flight so the boarding is very fast  :twisted:
Title: FiFLi add-on - First officer and Flight attendant for PSX - beta 0.62
Post by: torrence on Tue, 10 Feb 2015 00:15
Quote from: vito

Quote from: Jeroen Hoppenbrouwers

Quote from: vito

This will initiate passenger boarding simulation - you will hear ambient noise of passengers boarding. Also boarding will take some time (ca 10 minutes), ...

Which disciplined country is this? A full 744 in 10 minutes?     :twisted:



global economy is still in recession, we have only few passengers per flight so the boarding is very fast  :twisted:


I saw an article about boarding time studies back when the A380 was in development.  Apparently Airbus wanted to see how Japanese airlines achieved remarkably short plane/deplane times with domestic  ANA 747's and sent a crew out to research it.  ANA was then and maybe now flying 747's up and down the home islands like regional jets in the US and got them loaded/unloaded in record times.  I think Airbus concluded that 'cultural differences' would prevent the ANA techniques from working for other parts of the world.  I gathered from the article that the passengers were mostly business travelers who traveled light, followed directions and all got up simultaneously after the seat-belt sign was out, with their (very light) briefcases/laptops and then proceeded to move out in an orderly manner.

Cheers
Torrence
Title: FiFLi add-on - First officer and Flight attendant for PSX - beta 0.62
Post by: vito on Fri, 13 Feb 2015 21:45
Here is FiFLi beta 0.47.

Recommending to download complete package:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/1khy0ds3z3dzxzu/FiFLi.zip?dl=0

or if you want just main jar file:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/wvt0tz4ii3smtn8/FiFLi.jar?dl=0

News are:
beta 0.47
- you will now get "Cabin ready" when descending ...
- adjusted boarding simulation, now it takes at least 30+ minutes  :evil:  ...
also not to forget: If you wish to end boarding early, just rotate FLT DK DOOR selector to DENY and release it. You will hear flight attendant telling you that boarding is complete and sounds of boarding noise will stop.
- also tweaked boarding noise to sound better :-)
- feature added : First officer will execute runway entry procedure:
--> when you are ready to enter runway: rotate FLT DK DOOR selector to DENY and release it. This will signal that you are ready to enter the runway and you are telling your First officer to execute runway entry procedure. In this case First officer will: call flight attendants to take seats for take off, turn on landing lights, turn off taxi lights, turn on strobe, put XPDR to RA/TA position.

best regards

vito
Title: FiFLi add-on - First officer and Flight attendant for PSX - beta 0.62
Post by: vito on Sat, 21 Feb 2015 20:23
Here is FiFLi beta 0.48 :-)

Few small bugs cleared away:

beta 0.48
- First officer now correctly turns off weather radar after leaving runway
- First officer now resets stab trim to 6.0 after landing and leaving runway

Optimal is to update jar file, but if you want you can download complete package.

Complete package is here:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/1khy0ds3z3dzxzu/FiFLi.zip?dl=0

and only main jar file:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/wvt0tz4ii3smtn8/FiFLi.jar?dl=0

best regards

vito
Title: FiFLi add-on - First officer and Flight attendant for PSX - beta 0.62
Post by: tango4 on Sat, 21 Feb 2015 22:15
I think I totally forgot to drop you a message, but I've been following FiFli for several versions now.
I really love this little addition to Psx. It really adds to the immersion.
Thanks a lot for sharing your work with us !

Charles
Title: FiFLi add-on - First officer and Flight attendant for PSX - beta 0.62
Post by: vito on Mon, 23 Feb 2015 08:02
Thank you Charles, glad that you use FiFLi for PSX! :-)

Best regards
Vito
Title: FiFLi add-on - First officer and Flight attendant for PSX - beta 0.62
Post by: Kurt on Sat, 28 Feb 2015 16:37
Hi Vito

Thanks for the addon - nice to have some chatter from the passenger compartment :)

Is it possible for you someway along the road to include possibility for adjusting the volume ? - EDIT: RTFM - Controlled by PA knob on audio panel :)

Thanks
Title: FiFLi add-on - First officer and Flight attendant for PSX - beta 0.62
Post by: JP744 on Sat, 28 Feb 2015 18:46
Hello Vito,

Congratulations for this add-on. Any chance to have one day a French voice pack ?

Cheers,
Title: FiFLi add-on - First officer and Flight attendant for PSX - beta 0.62
Post by: Jeroen Hoppenbrouwers on Sat, 28 Feb 2015 20:59
Creating any new voice pack for the original FlightCrew program was quite simple. Follow these instructions:

http://www.hoppie.nl/flcrew/

I bet it is not much more difficult to do the same for the new program?


Hoppie
Title: FiFLi add-on - First officer and Flight attendant for PSX - beta 0.62
Post by: vito on Sat, 28 Feb 2015 21:08
here is FiFLi 0.49, nothing major changed except:

- FiFLi will announce boarding time in its own window and also when boarding process is finished ... now you can plan your departure more precisely :-) don't forget that if you just don't have that much time, you can rotate FLT DK DOOR selector to DENY and boarding will stop imidiatelly  :-)
- when you park at the gate FiFLi will randomize door opening side ... you can expect left or maybe right side doors to be opened

Complete package is here:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/1khy0ds3z3dzxzu/FiFLi.zip?dl=0

and only main jar file:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/wvt0tz4ii3smtn8/FiFLi.jar?dl=0

Thank you guys,

Kurt :-))) Yes you can, PA knob or you can push it to disable any sound from attendants but this will not disable boarding noise ...

JP744, no problem but I don't speak french, any volunteers who speak french ?  :mrgreen:
Title: FiFLi add-on - First officer and Flight attendant for PSX - beta 0.62
Post by: vito on Fri, 6 Mar 2015 20:47
Here is latest FiFLi beta 0.50, small bug fixed (hope so):

beta 0.50
- randomize external supplies and open doors after landing when parked at the gate now should work more reliable :-)

you don't need complete package but here it is:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/1khy0ds3z3dzxzu/FiFLi.zip?dl=0

this is recommended, just replace old jar file:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/wvt0tz4ii3smtn8/FiFLi.jar?dl=0

best regards

vito
Title: FiFLi add-on - First officer and Flight attendant for PSX - beta 0.62
Post by: JP744 on Tue, 10 Mar 2015 16:03
Quote from: vito

JP744, no problem but I don't speak french, any volunteers who speak french ?


I could do the voice pack but I don't think my voice is very sexy for flight attendant announcements  :D  :D

A lady voice would be better  ;)
Title: FiFLi add-on - First officer and Flight attendant for PSX - beta 0.62
Post by: HercMighty on Wed, 11 Mar 2015 00:19
Quote from: vito

Here is latest FiFLi beta 0.50, small bug fixed (hope so):

beta 0.50
- randomize external supplies and open doors after landing when parked at the gate now should work more reliable :-)

you don't need complete package but here it is:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/1khy0ds3z3dzxzu/FiFLi.zip?dl=0

this is recommended, just replace old jar file:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/wvt0tz4ii3smtn8/FiFLi.jar?dl=0

best regards

vito



vito,

Cabin sounds during boarding are extremely low....even with PA volume turned all the way up....anyway to get the source file turned up?
Title: FiFLi add-on - First officer and Flight attendant for PSX - beta 0.62
Post by: vito on Wed, 11 Mar 2015 09:04
Quote from: HercMighty


vito,

Cabin sounds during boarding are extremely low....even with PA volume turned all the way up....anyway to get the source file turned up?


maybe your overall (system) volume slider is set to low ... the problem is that if you pump volume to high in source file you will get more and more distorted sound even with small volume changes on the PA volume and to correct this I would need some normalization filter implemented into the code. This is the best I could do so far  :? .... Sounds are optimized for mid level volume settings, so try to bring up system volume slider.

best regards

vito
Title: FiFLi add-on - First officer and Flight attendant for PSX - beta 0.62
Post by: Hardy Heinlin on Wed, 11 Mar 2015 15:18
The cabin sound is extremely loud here on my system if I don't turn down the PA volume -- or the speaker volume :-)
Title: FiFLi add-on - First officer and Flight attendant for PSX - beta 0.62
Post by: HercMighty on Wed, 11 Mar 2015 20:58
Interesting. The briefing is I agree fine, it's the ambient sounds of people boarding the aircraft that are quiet....volumes are all turned up....
Title: FiFLi add-on - First officer and Flight attendant for PSX - beta 0.62
Post by: vito on Thu, 12 Mar 2015 06:38
Quote from: HercMighty

Interesting. The briefing is I agree fine, it's the ambient sounds of people boarding the aircraft that are quiet....volumes are all turned up....


sorry, I misunderstood your question :-) Boarding sounds are deliberately made quieter because you are sitting behind closed door most of the time and not so close to the main boarding door. But I suppose I can make them sound a LITTLE louder, if I make them to loud it will become to boring or to distracting (at least for me ). You cant adjust volume of the boarding sounds through PA knob, it only adjusts FA announcements.

best regards

vito
Title: FiFLi add-on - First officer and Flight attendant for PSX - beta 0.62
Post by: Keith Maton on Fri, 13 Mar 2015 20:44
I've just grabbed this and I'm not sure if it's right but there's a complete additional copy of the directory structure within an FiFLi directory inside the zip.  It looks as though it duplicates itself.
Title: FiFLi add-on - First officer and Flight attendant for PSX - beta 0.62
Post by: vito on Fri, 13 Mar 2015 22:20
Hi Keith,

fixed, now it should be without extra dir, just disregard duplicated directory :-)

Here is:

beta 0.51
- boarding sounds now more loud (cca 20%)

you don't need complete package but here it is:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/1khy0ds3z3dzxzu/FiFLi.zip?dl=0

this is recommended, just replace old jar file:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/wvt0tz4ii3smtn8/FiFLi.jar?dl=0

best regards

vito
Title: FiFLi add-on - First officer and Flight attendant for PSX - beta 0.62
Post by: HercMighty on Fri, 13 Mar 2015 22:29
Vito,

Thanks, give it a try this weekend.

I understand what your saying on the level, but as low as it was might as well have it off :)
Title: FiFLi add-on - First officer and Flight attendant for PSX - beta 0.62
Post by: JP744 on Sun, 15 Mar 2015 16:06
Hello Vito,

I can only run FiFLi on the PSX Server computer. If I try to run it from another computer, FiFLi cannot connect to server. Is it possible for you to add the possibility to specify the PSX Server IP adress and port on a window or setup file in order to use FiFLi over a network ?

Cheers,
Title: FiFLi add-on - First officer and Flight attendant for PSX - beta 0.62
Post by: cavaricooper on Sun, 15 Mar 2015 16:36
Quote from: JP744

Hello Vito,

I can only run FiFLi on the PSX Server computer. If I try to run it from another computer, FiFLi cannot connect to server. Is it possible for you to add the possibility to specify the PSX Server IP adress and port on a window or setup file in order to use FiFLi over a network ?

Cheers,


I'd also make this request please.  I like having the sim machine unfettered, and with multiple networked machines, this makes sense.

Ta!

Carl
Title: FiFLi add-on - First officer and Flight attendant for PSX - beta 0.62
Post by: HercMighty on Sun, 15 Mar 2015 16:54
Vito,

Sound level at boarding is good. thanks
Title: FiFLi add-on - First officer and Flight attendant for PSX - beta 0.62
Post by: Peter Lang on Sun, 15 Mar 2015 17:48
Hi vito,

I would like to join the request to make FiFli work from a client computer.

Thanks

Peter
Title: FiFLi add-on - First officer and Flight attendant for PSX - beta 0.62
Post by: vito on Mon, 16 Mar 2015 08:30
Quote from: Peter Lang

Hi vito,

I would like to join the request to make FiFli work from a client computer.

Thanks

Peter


I will look at it and it should not be a problem  8) ,  in next version I will add  few more options / parameters for connection with PSX.

best regards

vito
Title: FiFLi add-on - First officer and Flight attendant for PSX - beta 0.62
Post by: vito on Sat, 21 Mar 2015 22:35
Here is FiFLi beta 0.52 :-)

changes include:

- FiFLi can be connected to various ports or host names - just enter your port or host name into respected fields
- added First officer cockpit preflight set-up actions - these actions start automatically after you rotate FLT DK DOOR selector to deny UNLKD and release it. Also when you do this boarding will start. You will hear First officer actions like:
   - testing the oxygen,
   - testing various systems on his side (for now only weather radar),
   - announcing he is back from walk around and doors are closing (after the boarding is complete)
- added First officer call "speed brakes are up" - you will hear this call when you land and if you accidentally extend speed brakes on the ground ...

complete package (recommended because some new sounds added)
https://www.dropbox.com/s/1khy0ds3z3dzxzu/FiFLi.zip?dl=0

and just "jar" file:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/wvt0tz4ii3smtn8/FiFLi.jar?dl=0

best regards

vito
Title: FiFLi add-on - First officer and Flight attendant for PSX - beta 0.62
Post by: HercMighty on Sat, 21 Mar 2015 22:43
Thought for boarding is was unlock, not deny.....

Wouldn't it be better to start with Unlock? Boarding starts and the First Officer starts his check along with walk around?
Title: FiFLi add-on - First officer and Flight attendant for PSX - beta 0.62
Post by: vito on Sat, 21 Mar 2015 22:54
Quote from: HercMighty

Thought for boarding is was unlock, not deny.....

Wouldn't it be better to start with Unlock? Boarding starts and the First Officer starts his check along with walk around?


my typo, sorry, :-)

Normal position for selector is "auto". when you move it to "UNLKD" position it will start boarding and FO actions ... don't know from where I get this "deny" :-)

best regards

vito
Title: FiFLi add-on - First officer and Flight attendant for PSX - beta 0.62
Post by: HercMighty on Sat, 21 Mar 2015 22:56
Makes more sense :)
Title: FiFLi add-on - First officer and Flight attendant for PSX - beta 0.62
Post by: JP744 on Mon, 23 Mar 2015 12:07
Thank you very much for these new features Vito.
Title: FiFLi add-on - First officer and Flight attendant for PSX - beta 0.62
Post by: cavaricooper on Mon, 23 Mar 2015 19:12
Vito-

Tried it for the first time- impressed. Thank-you for adding to the immersion factor when flying our beloved fat-girl.

C
Title: FiFLi add-on - First officer and Flight attendant for PSX - beta 0.62
Post by: vito on Mon, 23 Mar 2015 19:54
Thank you for trying FiFLi, and thank you all for your support :-)))

Best regards
Vito
Title: FiFLi add-on - First officer and Flight attendant for PSX - beta 0.62
Post by: Derek Adam on Wed, 25 Mar 2015 19:51
Hi Vito,  Thank you for your addition to our PSX world.

I have tried to follow instructions as written in your read me but apart from descent instructions (clearly) from your lovely purser, I get no other sounds.

At what stage do you turn your FLT DK DOOR to open? Is immediately on entering the cockpit or when power is supplied to the aircraft?

It would seem my volumes are set correctly.

Your help would be appreciated.

Cheers,

Derek
Title: FiFLi add-on - First officer and Flight attendant for PSX - beta 0.62
Post by: vito on Wed, 25 Mar 2015 21:10
Quote from: Derek Adam

Hi Vito,  Thank you for your addition to our PSX world.

I have tried to follow instructions as written in your read me but apart from descent instructions (clearly) from your lovely purser, I get no other sounds.

At what stage do you turn your FLT DK DOOR to open? Is immediately on entering the cockpit or when power is supplied to the aircraft?



Hi Derek,

Here is what to do:

Aircraft should be powered up and ready for boarding, doors must be opened!

Boarding simulation:
--> Rotate FLT DK DOOR selector to UNLKD and release it. Doors must be open. This will initiate passenger boarding simulation - you will hear ambient noise of passengers boarding. Also boarding will take some time(cca 30+ minutes), first you will hear lovely voice announce boarding is starting and after the boarding is complete you will hear that boarding is now complete so you can continue with preparing for engine start ...
If you wish to end boarding early, just rotate FLT DK DOOR selector to DENY and release it. You will hear flight attendant telling you that boarding is complete and sounds of boarding noise will stop. FiFLi will announce in its own window how long boarding will take in minutes.

Why you didn't hear all announcements is hard to tell but I suspect that you missed some of the steps / triggers which are necessary for certain phase to be activated. I suggest that you start with instructions folowed step by step. Waiting for your report :-)

Here are triggers for certain phase:

FA briefing: doors closed, pushback and taxiout:
-> all doors must be closed,
-> autobrakes must be in RTO position
-> beacon must be on

FA briefing: cruise:
-> altitude must be higher than 20000 ft
-> autobrakes must be in OFF position

FA briefing: approach:
-> altitude must be between 3000 and 10000 ft
-> autobrakes must be in either 1, 2, 3, 4 or MAX position
-> speedbrakes must be armed (this is important just for taxi in briefing not for approach briefing to be played),

FA briefing: taxi in:
-> flaps and speed brakes must be deplopyed
-> autobrakes must be in DISARM position
-> when you retract the speedbrake (this is the signal that we are actually of the runway) first officer will:
---> start the APU
---> turn off the landing lights
---> turn of the strobes
---> retract flaps
---> put XPDR to STBY position
---> turn off weather radar on his side,
——-> reset stab trim to neutral
---> and you will hear taxi in briefing

and final actions(randomize external supplies connections) happen:
--> only if the taxi in briefing was played
--> after autobrakes are in off position
--> and doors are open

Best regards
Vito
Title: FiFLi add-on - First officer and Flight attendant for PSX - beta 0.62
Post by: Derek Adam on Thu, 26 Mar 2015 20:02
Hi Vito,
  Thank you for your prompt reply.  Felt I had done all the precursors for FIFI to work, but with a quick check today I was left in the same position of not hearing anything except descent announcement.
Please do not concern yourself with my problem over the next week as we are in the process of changing homes.  Could be up to that time before I am up and working again.

Cheers,
Derek
Title: FiFLi add-on - First officer and Flight attendant for PSX - beta 0.62
Post by: matchball on Tue, 31 Mar 2015 10:38
How do I proceed with the FLT DK DOOR procedures to trigger different things when I am flying cargo plane (no FLT DK CARGO DOOR switch)?
Title: FiFLi add-on - First officer and Flight attendant for PSX - beta 0.62
Post by: vito on Tue, 31 Mar 2015 20:28
Quote from: matchball

How do I proceed with the FLT DK DOOR procedures to trigger different things when I am flying cargo plane (no FLT DK CARGO DOOR switch)?


I am afraid there is no alternative at the moment. In next update I will implement different assignement for FO actions, the one that is  present in both passenger and cargo versions ... Stay tuned :-)

Best regards

Vito
Title: FiFLi add-on - First officer and Flight attendant for PSX - beta 0.62
Post by: vito on Sat, 4 Apr 2015 22:20
Good evening folks !

Here is FiFLi beta 0.53 with bunch of good stuff :-)

link to complete package:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/1khy0ds3z3dzxzu/FiFLi.zip?dl=0

link to JAR file:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/wvt0tz4ii3smtn8/FiFLi.jar?dl=0

changes include:

beta 0.53
- First Officer will now do complete after landing checklist as specified in Aerowinx Precision simulator manual (After Landing procedures) on page 574. This checklist will start after you retract the speed brakes.
- fixed few typos in "readme"
- First Officer will setup radios according to the values found in "Instructor panel / Situation / Human / Voice ATC" - this setup will happen after boarding is complete. It is important that you manually enter origin and destination into Instructor / Situation / Human / Voice - ATC fields BEFORE boarding is complete.  First Officer will then enter frequencies found in Instructor panel / Situation / Human / Voice ATC in next order (radio tuning panel left: RTPL, radio tuning panel right: RTPR):
   ground ---> RTPL Active
   tower ---> RTPL Standby
   departure ---> RTPR Active
   center ---> RTPR Standby

Since we have a more than few "freight dogs" :-) who use FiFLi, decission to assign new button to enable control of First Officer actions since freighters don't have FLT DK DOOR control. Any suggestions what button to use, mine is: radio tuning panel center, R/T - INT switch ?

best regards

vito
Title: FiFLi add-on - First officer and Flight attendant for PSX - beta 0.62
Post by: HercMighty on Sat, 4 Apr 2015 22:52
Don't fly a freighter, but like the Door switch....can you make it an Or statement?
Title: FiFLi add-on - First officer and Flight attendant for PSX - beta 0.62
Post by: vito on Sat, 4 Apr 2015 23:15
Quote from: HercMighty

Don't fly a freighter, but like the Door switch....can you make it an Or statement?


you mean to give choice: if pax then DK DOOR, freighter: something else ?

not a bad idea :-) and I am thinking ... on freighters there is also no boarding sound but maybe something else can be heard ... Freight dogs, any suggestions, what buttons and sounds ? :-)))

best regards

vito
Title: FiFLi add-on - First officer and Flight attendant for PSX - beta 0.62
Post by: HercMighty on Sat, 4 Apr 2015 23:22
"you mean to give choice: if pax then DK DOOR, freighter: something else ?"

Exactly!

:)
Title: FiFLi add-on - First officer and Flight attendant for PSX - beta 0.62
Post by: vito on Fri, 10 Apr 2015 23:13
Here is latest FiFLi beta 0.54 :-))) !

I have added two more audio dialog files, so downloading complete package is recommended !

link to complete package (this is recommended):
https://www.dropbox.com/s/1khy0ds3z3dzxzu/FiFLi.zip?dl=0

link to JAR file:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/wvt0tz4ii3smtn8/FiFLi.jar?dl=0

News are:

- added few more First officer cockpit preflight set-up actions - these actions start automatically after you rotate FLT DK DOOR selector to UNLKD and release it. Also when you do this boarding will start. You will hear First officer actions like:
   - announcing he is going to do a walk around (this will take cca 10+       minutes)
   - announcing he is back from walk around,
   - performing voice recorder test,
   - performing Fire Test,
   - testing the oxygen,
   - testing weather radar on his and Captain side,
   - announcing doors are closing (after the boarding is complete).

- added replacement option for freighters who doesn't have the FLT DK DOOR selector ! Switches on the Center Audio panel are acting as the FLT DK DOOR selector switch:
   - Switch "INT" as FLT DK DOOR selector to UNLKD,
    - Switch "R/T" as FLT DK DOOR selector to DENY,

Best regards !

vito
Title: FiFLi add-on - First officer and Flight attendant for PSX - beta 0.62
Post by: vito on Fri, 1 May 2015 20:25
Here is latest FiFLi beta 0.55 :-)

Few news here, our First Officer has become even more usefull after he has returned from his flight school, he will now help you with:
- "before start" actions after beacon is turned on, he will check if you forgot to do some of your "before start" items and he will do his (he assumes that you called for "Before start checklist")and after that he will be ready for your command to pull engine start switch after you move fuel control switch to run:
   - turns on APU and connects generators,
   - sets hydraulic system,
   - sets fuel system,
   - sets packs,
   - after you move fuel control switch to run he will pull  matching engine       start switch .

Hope you will find these new FO actions useful :-)))

Here is the download link to FiFLi complete package:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/1khy0ds3z3dzxzu/FiFLi.zip?dl=0

Here is the download link to FiFLi.jar file, latest version if you don't need complete package, just overwrite the old one:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/wvt0tz4ii3smtn8/FiFLi.jar?dl=0


best regards

vito
Title: FiFLi add-on - First officer and Flight attendant for PSX - beta 0.62
Post by: vito on Sat, 2 May 2015 19:09
Here is latest FiFLi beta 0.56 :-)

Small bug fixed ! :-)
You don't need complete package.

beta 0.56
- fixed bug: First officer didn't correctly "understand" in which flight phase we are, now it does :-)

Here is the download link to FiFLi complete package:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/1khy0ds3z3dzxzu/FiFLi.zip?dl=0

Here is the download link to FiFLi.jar file, latest version if you don't need complete package, just overwrite the old one:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/wvt0tz4ii3smtn8/FiFLi.jar?dl=0

best regards

vito
Title: FiFLi add-on - First officer and Flight attendant for PSX - beta 0.62
Post by: vito on Sat, 9 May 2015 20:12
Ok, here is latest FiFLi beta 0.57 :-)

Nothing major just few small bugs fixed (hopefully) ! :-)
You don't need complete package.

beta 0.57
- fixed bug: First officer should now correctly setup his "Before start checklist" and pull engine start switches

Here is the download link to FiFLi complete package:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/1khy0ds3z3dzxzu/FiFLi.zip?dl=0

Here is the download link to FiFLi.jar file, latest version if you don't need complete package, just overwrite the old one:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/wvt0tz4ii3smtn8/FiFLi.jar?dl=0

best regards

vito
Title: FiFLi add-on - First officer and Flight attendant for PSX - beta 0.62
Post by: tango4 on Sun, 10 May 2015 20:44
Hi Vito,
And thanks for your continuous support !

I just have a quick request, I have no idea if it is complicated or not, so I'm asking just in case.

During his before start actions, the FO sets the hydraulics panel, putting Demand pumps 1-3 on AUTO, and number 4 on AUX.
But on the aircraft I use (G-CIVZ), it is equipped with an AUX pump on circuit 1, and I think in that case, it should be set to AUX instead of AUTO. I don't know if you could take that option into account (either through an auto detection of the aircraft option, or an option in your interface).

Anyway, thanks for all your efforts !

Charles
Title: FiFLi add-on - First officer and Flight attendant for PSX - beta 0.62
Post by: Derek Adam on Sun, 10 May 2015 21:38
Hi Vito,    Thank you for your  efforts.

Whenever I use FIFI PSX starts to not respond with a message at the top saying "PSX not responding", and therefore  will not accept any keyboard or mouse inputs.

As soon as I close FIFI the normal PSX returns to full use.

Is it something I am doing wrong?

Cheers
Derek
Title: FiFLi add-on - First officer and Flight attendant for PSX - beta 0.62
Post by: vito on Mon, 11 May 2015 06:27
Quote from: Derek Adam


Whenever I use FIFI PSX starts to not respond with a message at the top saying "PSX not responding", and therefore  will not accept any keyboard or mouse inputs.

As soon as I close FIFI the normal PSX returns to full use.



Hi Derek, sorry to hear that you have problem with FiFLi. I assume that you use latest version (0.57). Similar problems were rectified since version 0.2. Can you tell me if this is happening every time or sporadically ? When this freezing starts, does it start just when you click on connection button in FiFLi ? Do you use FiFLi over network (from other computer) ? Does anybody else have a problem with freezing again ?

best regards

vito
Title: FiFLi add-on - First officer and Flight attendant for PSX - beta 0.62
Post by: vito on Mon, 11 May 2015 06:30
Quote from: tango4

Hi Vito,
And thanks for your continuous support !

I just have a quick request, I have no idea if it is complicated or not, so I'm asking just in case.

During his before start actions, the FO sets the hydraulics panel, putting Demand pumps 1-3 on AUTO, and number 4 on AUX.
But on the aircraft I use (G-CIVZ), it is equipped with an AUX pump on circuit 1, and I think in that case, it should be set to AUX instead of AUTO. I don't know if you could take that option into account (either through an auto detection of the aircraft option, or an option in your interface).

Anyway, thanks for all your efforts !

Charles


Hi Charles !
Thanks for using FiFLi :-) Correcting what you asking shouldn't be a problem :-) I will do it as soon as possible.

Best regards

vito
Title: FiFLi add-on - First officer and Flight attendant for PSX - beta 0.62
Post by: tango4 on Mon, 11 May 2015 11:54
Thanks a lot !
Title: FiFLi add-on - First officer and Flight attendant for PSX - beta 0.62
Post by: Derek Adam on Thu, 14 May 2015 22:39
Hi Vito,

Quote
Hi Derek, sorry to hear that you have problem with FiFLi. I assume that you use latest version (0.57). Similar problems were rectified since version 0.2. Can you tell me if this is happening every time or sporadically ? When this freezing starts, does it start just when you click on connection button in FiFLi ? Do you use FiFLi over network (from other computer) ? Does anybody else have a problem with freezing again ?


Re installed latest version. Problem immediately arises on loading and connecting FiFli.
The program is not run over the network either as local host or IP address.

Any body who has helped me with installing add ons will attest to the fact that it will be something simple that I am doing wrong :roll:  so please be understanding!

Kind regards

Derek
Title: FiFLi add-on - First officer and Flight attendant for PSX - beta 0.62
Post by: vito on Fri, 15 May 2015 22:03
Quote from: Derek Adam

Problem immediately arises on loading and connecting FiFli.
The program is not run over the network either as local host or IP address.



Hi Derek ! Does it start freezing immediately after you check button "Connect me to PSX" ? Do you have maybe antivirus on something else running on your system that maybe interfere with FiFLi trying to connect ? Other add-ons are working  - connecting to PSX normally ?

Installation: just unpack from zip file to the directory of your choice and preserve directory structure found in zip file.

thanks !

best regards

vito
Title: FiFLi add-on - First officer and Flight attendant for PSX - beta 0.62
Post by: Derek Adam on Sat, 16 May 2015 23:29
Hi Vito,

Quote
! Does it start freezing immediately after you check button "Connect me to PSX" ? Do you have maybe antivirus on something else running on your system that maybe interfere with FiFLi trying to connect ? Other add-ons are working - connecting to PSX normally ?



Takes a while to connect. Then PSX freezes. Loads with a plain "Boeing Brown" background
and then instruments turn on. If PSX is sent to the task bar it takes a delayed time to load on screen. No anti viruses should be causing a problem and all other addons work fine except ADAPTPSX which will not release from the task bar and will not print (old problem)
Title: FiFLi add-on - First officer and Flight attendant for PSX - beta 0.62
Post by: vito on Sun, 17 May 2015 00:47
Quote from: Derek Adam


Takes a while to connect. Then PSX freezes. Loads with a plain "Boeing Brown" background
and then instruments turn on. If PSX is sent to the task bar it takes a delayed time to load on screen. No anti viruses should be causing a problem and all other addons work fine except ADAPTPSX which will not release from the task bar and will not print (old problem)


Ok, here is what we do ... Try to download FiFLi from this link:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/o9jif4ttyf9lu69/FiFLi_test_1.jar?dl=0

This is version 0.58 - A, it is version with disabled all functions except one that connects to PSX.
Try it and report if the connection is successful and PSX works normally .
Title: FiFLi add-on - First officer and Flight attendant for PSX - beta 0.62
Post by: Derek Adam on Sun, 17 May 2015 21:52
Thank you Vito


Connects immediately and no ongoing problems.

Cheers

Derek
Title: FiFLi add-on - First officer and Flight attendant for PSX - beta 0.62
Post by: vito on Mon, 18 May 2015 19:16
Quote from: Derek Adam


Connects immediately and no ongoing problems.




Try now version 0.58 - B :

https://www.dropbox.com/s/qy719xildppu7j6/FiFLi_test_B.jar?dl=0

and version 0.58 - C :

https://www.dropbox.com/s/h4jn2cg7yohqbyk/FiFLi_test_C.jar?dl=0

and please report :-)

best regards

vito
Title: FiFLi add-on - First officer and Flight attendant for PSX - beta 0.62
Post by: Derek Adam on Mon, 18 May 2015 22:02
Both connect immediately and no effect on PSX

Cheers

Derek
Title: FiFLi add-on - First officer and Flight attendant for PSX - beta 0.62
Post by: vito on Mon, 18 May 2015 22:47
Quote from: Derek Adam

Both connect immediately and no effect on PSX

Cheers

Derek



Ok, now try to use latest version FiFLi 0.59 (download it from link below) and please report if it is working. This is again full version, and if it's working you can test it further as per user manual.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/wvt0tz4ii3smtn8/FiFLi.jar?dl=0


best regards

vito
Title: FiFLi add-on - First officer and Flight attendant for PSX - beta 0.62
Post by: Derek Adam on Mon, 18 May 2015 23:14
Vito   New program very slow to connect and affects slow response from PSX  i.e keypad change of view.  Also variable messages of "PSX not responding"

With testC jar the first officer did not respond till beacon was switched on and the hydraulic switch and other actions occurred. There was no sound.

Thanx for all your efforts

Cheers
Derek
Title: FiFLi add-on - First officer and Flight attendant for PSX - beta 0.62
Post by: vito on Tue, 19 May 2015 18:09
Quote from: Derek Adam

Vito   New program very slow to connect and affects slow response from PSX  i.e keypad change of view.  Also variable messages of "PSX not responding"



Here we go again (as old song says) :-)

Please try this version:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/bus4sf7y8dbphcf/FiFLi-059-A.jar?dl=0

and report if any progress :-)
Title: FiFLi add-on - First officer and Flight attendant for PSX - beta 0.62
Post by: Derek Adam on Wed, 20 May 2015 21:48
Hi Vito
         Wednesday golf day so did not have time to test and reply

I cannot feel more dreadful about the problems I have (and it seems others do not :|

059-A.jar is slow to load and can be slow to connect. Then all hell breaks loose with PSX.

The best jar file you sent was Test C . Immediate connection and ajthough devoid of sound did start to work at engine start.

(I thought I would check out the last sentence before posting and have found that test c would not connect after trying all others so I rebooted the computer W7 and it connected immediately!!!!!!)

May I respectively suggest you give me an idea of what you expect of each new jar file so that I will know what will happen.

Thank you for your patience.

Very kindest regards

Derek
Title: FiFLi add-on - First officer and Flight attendant for PSX - beta 0.62
Post by: vito on Thu, 21 May 2015 22:33
Quote from: Derek Adam



059-A.jar is slow to load and can be slow to connect. Then all hell breaks loose with PSX.

The best jar file you sent was Test C . Immediate connection and ajthough devoid of sound did start to work at engine start.



Hi Derek, the problem is in thread which simulates First officers before start actions. Somehow it corrupts entire environment in which is run. It is my fault but I need time to get it right :-). Here is version of FiFLi without this thread active, please try it and report back, this should run ok:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/germcfdovxi2inm/FiFLi-059-B.jar?dl=0

All actions should run normal except you won't get help from your FO with before start actions :-) I f it connects ok then it probably works ok. I will then send you situ file with instructions how to test further ...

best regards
vito
Title: FiFLi add-on - First officer and Flight attendant for PSX - beta 0.62
Post by: Hardy Heinlin on Fri, 22 May 2015 03:12
Hi Vito,

do you have reasonable Thread.sleep() delays in your looped threads? As you certainly know, for such tasks a loop need not run faster than 1 Hz, or even much slower. If a loop has no delay it may run at over 100 Hz and draw CPU performance from all  running programs.


Cheers,

|-|ardy
Title: FiFLi add-on - First officer and Flight attendant for PSX - beta 0.62
Post by: vito on Fri, 22 May 2015 05:17
Quote from: Hardy Heinlin

Hi Vito,

do you have reasonable Thread.sleep() delays in your looped threads?


Hi Hardy!

No, I dont, this idea never crossed my mind, but I heard of it :-) thanks for the tip, I will try it asap :-)

Best regards
Vito
Title: FiFLi add-on - First officer and Flight attendant for PSX - beta 0.62
Post by: Derek Adam on Sun, 24 May 2015 21:54
Good Morning,Afternoon or Evening Vito,

Your latest installed and connected immediately. On one occasion I saw a message like "passengers boarding in 35 minutes" This did not change and I had no sounds at all from the cabin. Yes the PA was turned on!.  2 hours into a 2 1/2 flight all hell broke loose again in PSX. On one occasion the whole screen faded to white. Closing FiFli  returned everything to normal.  I run PSX on a SSD drive and although I feel this has nothing to do with what would seem is a personal problem, I throw it into the mix for consideration.

Best regards,
Derek
Title: FiFLi add-on - First officer and Flight attendant for PSX - beta 0.62
Post by: vito on Tue, 26 May 2015 21:40
Quote from: Derek Adam

Good Morning,Afternoon or Evening Vito,

Your latest installed and connected immediately. On one occasion I saw a message like "passengers boarding in 35 minutes" This did not change and I had no sounds at all from the cabin. Yes the PA was turned on!.  2 hours into a 2 1/2 flight all hell broke loose again in PSX. On one occasion the whole screen faded to white. Closing FiFli  returned everything to normal.  I run PSX on a SSD drive and although I feel this has nothing to do with what would seem is a personal problem, I throw it into the mix for consideration.

Best regards,
Derek


Hi Derek!
I am currently working on more simplified version of FiFLi with more optimized thread utilization (which is most probably creating your problems). Thank you for testing so far. If you wish you can send me private email so I can send you new versions directly :-)

Best regards

Vito
Title: FiFLi add-on - First officer and Flight attendant for PSX - beta 0.62
Post by: cavaricooper on Wed, 27 May 2015 02:03
Vito-

If you are able, I would appreciate some assistance as well.  I have constantly updated, and I do have the latest 059-B file, and still rotating the knob to UNLOCKED and back does not start the simulation.  I have overwritten files, getting FULL updates.  I renamed the 059-B .jar to FiFli.jar and ran that.  I get a good connection to PSX- but no audio at all.

Thoughts would be appreciated.  I am reachable at cavaricooper (at) gmail dot com should you have time to troubleshoot.  Thanks for all your hard work!

Best- Carl
Title: FiFLi add-on - First officer and Flight attendant for PSX - beta 0.62
Post by: vito on Wed, 27 May 2015 10:48
Quote from: cavaricooper

Vito-

If you are able, I would appreciate some assistance as well.  I have constantly updated, and I do have the latest 059-B file, and still rotating the knob to UNLOCKED and back does not start the simulation.  I have overwritten files, getting FULL updates.  I renamed the 059-B .jar to FiFli.jar and ran that.  I get a good connection to PSX- but no audio at all.

Thoughts would be appreciated.  I am reachable at cavaricooper (at) gmail dot com should you have time to troubleshoot.  Thanks for all your hard work!

Best- Carl


Hi Carl,

don't use these beta versions, they have some functions disabled, instead use these:

complete package (recommended because some new sounds added)
https://www.dropbox.com/s/1khy0ds3z3dzxzu/FiFLi.zip?dl=0

and just "jar" file:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/wvt0tz4ii3smtn8/FiFLi.jar?dl=0

If you still have problems let me know :-)

best regards

vito
Title: FiFLi add-on - First officer and Flight attendant for PSX - beta 0.62
Post by: cavaricooper on Wed, 27 May 2015 17:17
Vito-

Thank-you!  I deleted the current FiFLi folder, and downloaded the one you suggested.  BTW this is on my 2014 rMBP w/ 27" Thunderbolt Display (OS 10.10.3).

Ran PSX, ran FiFLi, showed connected to PSX and still nothing after selecting UNLOCKED.

I have uploaded my SITU and LAYOUT in case there is something obvious I am missing.
https://app.box.com/s/imamlaybp9co78qhq33xb08vxohykqk9

There is also a screen shot showing the "About" info for PSX (Java etc).

I appreciate your assistance very much. Ta!

Best- C
Title: FiFLi add-on - First officer and Flight attendant for PSX - beta 0.62
Post by: vito on Wed, 27 May 2015 20:46
Quote from: cavaricooper


Ran PSX, ran FiFLi, showed connected to PSX and still nothing after selecting UNLOCKED.

I have uploaded my SITU and LAYOUT in case there is something obvious I am missing.
https://app.box.com/s/imamlaybp9co78qhq33xb08vxohykqk9



No, you are not missing anything.
I will try ASAP to find solution, thanks for pointing this out :-) As soon I have something I will publish it.

best regards

vito
Title: FiFLi add-on - First officer and Flight attendant for PSX - beta 0.62
Post by: Derek Adam on Wed, 27 May 2015 21:51
Hi Vito. Happy to wait.


Cheers
Derek
Title: FiFLi add-on - First officer and Flight attendant for PSX - beta 0.62
Post by: cavaricooper on Wed, 27 May 2015 23:59
Vito-

Glad to help... reading through this thread, I am excited to see FiFLi in action.  Take your time, your efforts are appreciated!

Best- C

Quote from: vito

No, you are not missing anything.
I will try ASAP to find solution, thanks for pointing this out :-) As soon I have something I will publish it.

best regards

vito
Title: FiFLi add-on - First officer and Flight attendant for PSX - beta 0.62
Post by: Dennis B on Thu, 28 May 2015 14:04
Hey Vito,

I too have problems with FiFli (latest version). The boarding procedure starts (as displayed by a status message "!Boarding! 38 mins!" - but there are no sounds and no actions done by the F/O. Sound is working from PSX, checked my settings twice. Maybe you can have a look into it :)

Cheers
Dennis
Title: FiFLi add-on - First officer and Flight attendant for PSX - beta 0.62
Post by: vito on Wed, 3 Jun 2015 19:43
Good evening !

Here is FiFLi beta version 0.60 that is quite reworked :-) Few things were changed and maybe we will run into new problems but as I have time to test it, it works ok :-))) So please load it and report what you have found :-)

here is link with complete version:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/1khy0ds3z3dzxzu/FiFLi.zip?dl=0

and here is just "jar" file:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/wvt0tz4ii3smtn8/FiFLi.jar?dl=0


best regards

vito
Title: FiFLi add-on - First officer and Flight attendant for PSX - beta 0.62
Post by: vito on Sat, 27 Jun 2015 18:47
Good evening !

Here is FiFLi beta version 0.62 :-) I have optimized FiFLi hoping that it will now work more smoothly for those who have problems :-) So please load it and report what you have found :-) New is that First officer will now recognize if you have Aux Pump in system 1 and accordingly he will in his before start procedures move Hyd Aux Pump 1 switch to Aux

here is link with complete version:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/1khy0ds3z3dzxzu/FiFLi.zip?dl=0

and here is just "jar" file:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/wvt0tz4ii3smtn8/FiFLi.jar?dl=0


best regards

vito
Title: FiFLi add-on - First officer and Flight attendant for PSX - beta 0.62
Post by: 400guy on Sat, 27 Jun 2015 21:16
My McAfee anti virus software blocks this site as being an "unacceptable security risk"!

(I can get to it if I use my Ubuntu OS which does not have McAffee installed).

Just thought that I'd let you know.

jj
Title: FiFLi add-on - First officer and Flight attendant for PSX - beta 0.62
Post by: vito on Sat, 27 Jun 2015 22:07
Quote from: 400guy

My McAfee anti virus software blocks this site as being an "unacceptable security risk"!
jj


Hi JJ !

Sorry to hear that you have problems downloading it. I didn't hear anyone have a problem with "Dropbox" site. Anyone else having a problem ?

best regards!

vito
Title: FiFLi add-on - First officer and Flight attendant for PSX - beta 0.62
Post by: Jeroen Hoppenbrouwers on Sat, 27 Jun 2015 22:21
Dropbox is uncontrolled. A paranoid piece of software will want to warn you that you are about to run a program off an uncontrolled site that can contain anything. Just use the brain... the program does not have one.

Likewise my stuff at work does not allow me to send .zip or .exe files via e-mail. So I have to constantly rename the files into .xex and .piz and what not. That always works... so far for the security wall.


Hoppie
Title: FiFLi add-on - First officer and Flight attendant for PSX - beta 0.62
Post by: tango4 on Sat, 27 Jun 2015 22:23
Thanks a lot Vito, will try that when I get some free time !
Title: FiFLi add-on - First officer and Flight attendant for PSX - beta 0.62
Post by: cavaricooper on Sun, 28 Jun 2015 03:25
Vito-

BRAVO!  FiFli works here as well :).  BTW, I habitually run two setups- a rMBP for a "PSX nightcap" before turning in, and a networked PC setup for longer flights.  I was able to run FiFli both on the rMBP (1 machine application) AND on the second (networked application using IP) machine (using just Server, not boost on the sim machine).  Just to be sure, I downloaded the entire package 0.62 after deleting my prior folder.

Thank-you for your efforts, and perseverance- they are greatly appreciated.

C
Title: FiFLi add-on - First officer and Flight attendant for PSX - beta 0.62
Post by: vito on Fri, 3 Jul 2015 17:00
Thanks on comments and I am happy that some problems are solved :-) !

I am thinking to add some new features such as:

* Flight attendants warning if temperatures in passenger cabin gets to hot or to cold :-)
* add some nasty comments from First officer if you forget something obvious in your procedures and checks :-)
* random comments and sounds from First officer just to make our long flights interesting and that we know FiFLi is running in background:-)
*your suggestions :-)

best regards

vito
Title: FiFLi add-on - First officer and Flight attendant for PSX - beta 0.62
Post by: 400guy on Fri, 3 Jul 2015 18:15
You could have the flight attendants share some risque stories, that sometimes happened!
 
Title: FiFLi add-on - First officer and Flight attendant for PSX - beta 0.62
Post by: Derek Adam on Sat, 4 Jul 2015 00:36
Hi Vito,

        Thank you for your new program. As someone who had major problems initially, it is now performing well for me.

? Flight attendants offering coffee or a meal on long flights?

Congratulations on a great addon

Regards

Derek
Title: FiFLi add-on - First officer and Flight attendant for PSX - beta 0.62
Post by: JP744 on Sat, 4 Jul 2015 08:19
Hi Vito,

I "turned off" first officer by ticking the box, but it still performs silent tasks like TCAS and weather radar tests, switching on landing lights etc...

Could you check that ? I have a full hardware cockpit and fly with a friend as copilot so I would like FiFli copilot to be 100% inactive (announcements AND silent tasks) when the box "Disable copilot" is ticked. Is it possible ?

Cheers
Title: FiFLi add-on - First officer and Flight attendant for PSX - beta 0.62
Post by: vito on Sat, 4 Jul 2015 15:07
Derek, I am happy that you finally can enjoy FiFLi :-)
and JP744 I will check this, probably my fault !  :roll:

best regards

vito
Title: FiFLi add-on - First officer and Flight attendant for PSX - beta 0.62
Post by: GodAtum on Sat, 4 Jul 2015 20:17
quick question, how long does the boarding take?
Title: FiFLi add-on - First officer and Flight attendant for PSX - beta 0.62
Post by: vito on Sat, 4 Jul 2015 21:43
This is random selected time but it can take cca 30 mins (+/- 10 mins), you have that info in FiFLi window at the bottom.


best regards

vito
Title: Re: FiFLi add-on - First officer and Flight attendant for PSX - beta 0.62
Post by: Hardy Heinlin on Sun, 27 Sep 2015 08:24
Hi Vito,

I added FiFli to http://aerowinx.com/html/addons.html

Thanks again for your contribution!

I just retested it by starting with a take-off situation. I was able to skip the preflight stuff and the F/A did her takeoff announcement. But when climbing through 20000 ft the program did not advance to the climb and cruise phase; instead, the F/O did some preflight checks like WXR test etc. Is it a requirement that FiFli is to be started only when PSX is in a preflight situation, and if so, is it necessary to wait 20+ minutes until the F/O is ready for engine start?

Or is FiFli supposed to skip flight phases automatically? How does it check the current flight phase? Does it check the flight phase when a switch is moved, or does it check it in an independent, infinite loop every 5 seconds or so?


Cheers,

|-|ardy
Title: Re: FiFLi add-on - First officer and Flight attendant for PSX - beta 0.62
Post by: vito on Sun, 27 Sep 2015 11:36
Thanks Hardy !

FiFLi is not jet bulletproof in detecting flight phase but so far it should for example automatically start doing things according to flight phase. For now flight phase is detected by selected switches and various parameters from PSX (alt, speed ...) I am thinking in the future slightly to change this flight phase detection (maybe to rely on FMC for this). Your problem was that you didn't wait for boarding phase to complete (it can last up to 40 mins) and FO to finish its preflight duties (it can last up to 10 mins). These can be skipped by rotating FLT DK DOOR selector to DENY and release it. You will hear flight attendant telling you that boarding is complete and sounds of boarding noise will stop (though I am not sure anymore / have to check this/ if FO will stop his preflight duties and skip to before start phase).

best regards

vito

p.s.
I just checked, FO will continue his 10 mins loop (doing his preflight checks) even if you force boarding to stop. Simplest way to skip to "climb" phase is to restart FiFLi :-).

Title: Re: FiFLi add-on - First officer and Flight attendant for PSX - beta 0.62
Post by: vito on Sun, 27 Sep 2015 15:48
Ok ladies and gents,
here is first version of FiFLi procedure guide :-) As this little add on has become more and more complex, it has become quite hard to keep with all possibilities and correct actions required :-) even for me. Finally, first version of guide is finished and now here it is ! I will correct it as it becomes necessary and changes come in, all suggestions and observations are very welcome ! Hoping that you will find it useful :-))) Here is link to PDF version of the guide:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/c5qiurpxw5r35tf/Procedure%20guide%20-%20FiFLi.pdf?dl=0

best regards


vito
Title: Re: FiFLi add-on - First officer and Flight attendant for PSX - beta 0.62
Post by: Ivo de Colfmaker on Sun, 27 Sep 2015 18:12
hi Vito,
thank You very much for this nice addon and this guide.

the other day made a flight from Brussels to San Fransisco with 126500kg of fuel, of which 15000 kg in the center tank.
the FO did not set the center tank pumps to on, when there is more then 7700 kg and less then  22600 kg  these must be on as stated on page 446 on the Aerowinx manual.

just an observation, by no means any criticism.
ivo
Title: Re: FiFLi add-on - First officer and Flight attendant for PSX - beta 0.62
Post by: vito on Thu, 1 Oct 2015 08:36
Thanks Ivo, I am aware of this :-) soon as time permits I will update FO
to correctly configure tanks in this case!
Best regards
Vito
Title: Re: FiFLi add-on - First officer and Flight attendant for PSX - beta 0.64
Post by: vito on Fri, 28 Oct 2016 19:59
Here it is, new beta 0.64, few new options, it SHOULD work better than previous version but .... :-))) Keep old files if you think it is wise.

few new options added:
Failures randomizer - if you are on the ground and before start it will add some unpredictability into your flight with adding some random undemanding failures - don’t check at the Instructor window and be prepared for surprise :-))) 
Move some switches - FiFLi will if you are at the ground and before start phase move some switches randomly - be aware, crew before you was a little sloppy at least :-)))
and Randomize ZFW - after all passengers been boarded you will get Final weight report.

Complete package is available at (recommended because some new sounds added)
https://www.dropbox.com/s/1khy0ds3z3dzxzu/FiFLi.zip?dl=0

and just "jar" file:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/wvt0tz4ii3smtn8/FiFLi.jar?dl=0

If you dont have problems let me know :-)

best regards

vito
Title: Re: FiFLi add-on - First officer and Flight attendant for PSX - beta 0.64
Post by: GodAtum on Sat, 24 Dec 2016 11:02
Hi Vito,

Even though I have the FO unchecked, he still does his stuff, fiddling with my buttons!
Title: Re: FiFLi add-on - First officer and Flight attendant for PSX - beta 0.64
Post by: vito on Sat, 24 Dec 2016 12:50
I will check, probably my fault !

best regards
vito
Title: Re: FiFLi add-on - First officer and Flight attendant for PSX - beta 0.64
Post by: vito on Tue, 20 Jun 2017 18:40
Here is FiFLi version beta 0.69 (skipped few versions - didn't want to publish it because nothing relevant for users changed)

Here are changes:
- FO option checked / unchecked now works - if somebody find it not working let me know :-)
- Boarding simulation:
--> Rotate FLT DK DOOR selector to UNLKD or DENY and release it. Doors must be open. This will initiate passenger boarding simulation - you will hear ambient noise of passengers boarding. Also boarding will take some time(cca 30+ minutes), first you will hear lovely voice announce boarding is starting and after the boarding is complete you will hear that boarding is now complete so you can continue with preparing for engine start ...
If you wish to end boarding early, just rotate FLT DK DOOR selector to DENY or UNLKD and release it. You will hear flight attendant telling you that boarding is complete and sounds of boarding noise will stop.Stopping boarding process is now more robust, you still must wait cca 30 secs to stop it. So news here is that and change of position of FLT DK DOOR selector changes FiFLi current phase.
—-> FO will do silent taskst after all four engines has been started (before you do after start checks):
 - turn off APU
 - set up Hyd pumps
 - turn on window heat (if you forgot)
 - turn on AFT cargo heat
 - turn on the PACKS

--> after landing simulation now includes sounds of softly playing classical music in the background

Complete package is available at (recommended because some new sounds added):
https://www.dropbox.com/s/dft2carzrwiozcw/FiFLi.zip?dl=0

and just "jar" file:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/wvt0tz4ii3smtn8/FiFLi.jar?dl=0

best regards

vito
Title: Re: FiFLi add-on - First officer and Flight attendant for PSX - beta 0.64
Post by: DougSnow on Sun, 25 Jun 2017 00:34
What's the switchology for us Freighter guys that don't have a F/D Door?  I'd like an F/O to help me out, but we dont have F/As.

Title: Re: FiFLi add-on - First officer and Flight attendant for PSX - beta 0.64
Post by: vito on Sun, 25 Jun 2017 20:48
Hi DougSnow,

in previous versions there was possibility for freighters to activate boarding actions / FO preflight but it was unfortunately lost in between versions (probably due some testing). I have now revisited this particular section and I hope restored functionality for freighters:

so in this beta 0.70 we have:

- added replacement option for freighters who doesn't have the FLT DK DOOR selector !
Switches on the Center Audio panel are acting as the FLT DK DOOR selector switch:
   - Switch "INT" or "R/T" act as FLT DK DOOR selector to UNLKD / DENY on passenger aircraft

Complete package is available at (recommended because some new sounds added):
https://www.dropbox.com/s/dft2carzrwiozcw/FiFLi.zip?dl=0

and just "jar" file:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/wvt0tz4ii3smtn8/FiFLi.jar?dl=0

best regards

vito
Title: Re: FiFLi add-on - First officer and Flight attendant for PSX - beta 0.70
Post by: Will on Mon, 26 Jun 2017 15:47
Hello Vito,
Good work so far! I have a question for you. If you start PSX with a cold and dark cockpit, no electrics at all, and then start FiFLi, what should the FiFLi status say? And as you power the aircraft up, what is the trigger to exable the next status change?
Thanks!
Title: Re: FiFLi add-on - First officer and Flight attendant for PSX - beta 0.70
Post by: asboyd on Tue, 27 Jun 2017 00:56
Will,
From Vito's procedure document:
1.1 >>> Load PSX, start with cold&dark scenario First load your PSX with situation on the ground and all of your add-ons including FiFLi. It is IMPORTANT that you click "Connect me to PSX"  after you have established power to your aircraft - not before (connect battery,  stby power and ext power). Also make sure that PA on Captains radio panel is on (little green light is on) - this is needed if you want Flight attendant briefings to be heard - you can also(to be sure it is not to quiet) adjust volume by rotating PA knob !
1.2 >>> Load FiFLi and other add-ons you are using - don't yet click "Connect me to PSX!" Button !
1.3 >>> Open Instructor page in PSX and then:
1.4 >>> Select Service: setup your ZFW, fuel, click External supplies checkboxes
1.5 >>> Select Human: setup Origin and Destination airport, enter Initial cruise FL, double press Talks to us so Responsible now mode is reset to Ground frequency

This is the start procedure I use and it works every time. I load cold and dark at YSSY for all my fights as I live near by and enjoy the scenery.. :)
Cheers,
Alex B
Title: Re: FiFLi add-on - First officer and Flight attendant for PSX - beta 0.70
Post by: Will on Tue, 27 Jun 2017 04:55
Okay thanks!
Title: Re: FiFLi add-on - First officer and Flight attendant for PSX - beta 0.70
Post by: vito on Tue, 27 Jun 2017 07:22
Hi Will,

Thanks to Alex B also for his quote from my tutorial ! First steps are to press Connect to PSX button on FiFLi panel.  Recommended is that this is done as in tutorial is said but I got habit (and it works also) to press Connect button as soon as PSX is loaded, no matter if power is connected (message in the FIFLi window should be: Parked at the ground). Second status change is initiated when you rotate  FLT DK DOOR selector in any direction - that is when boarding / FO preparation starts. Form here, you just follow standard flow, exceptionally you can shorten boarding simulation by rotating FLT DK DOOR selector in any direction - again (but bear in mind that FO preflight procedures will go on until they are finished - this is due programming - still on to do list is that FO actions also stop with stopping boarding actions).

best regards

vito
Title: Re: FiFLi add-on - First officer and Flight attendant for PSX - beta 0.70
Post by: Will on Tue, 27 Jun 2017 15:29
Thanks for the information about the status changes; that's what I was looking for. It's a good way to see if FiFLi is on track. I started cold and dark, powered up the aircraft, and then I think the status was immediately "Preflight checklist." What is the trigger for getting to that phase of FiFLi?
Thanks again.
Title: Re: FiFLi add-on - First officer and Flight attendant for PSX - beta 0.70
Post by: vito on Tue, 27 Jun 2017 18:58
Hi Will,

First message after you check "Connect me to PSX!" should be "Parked at the gate". After that you will usually start preflight procedures by rotating FLT DK DOOR selector. If you change Beacon switch either side (or you have it on) FiFLi will initiate "Before start procedure" and FO will do various tasks in preparing plane for starting engines. Message will change to "Before start checklist" when FO is done.

I must review my tutorial because it is not updated recently, sorry for that.


best regards

vito
Title: Re: FiFLi add-on - First officer and Flight attendant for PSX - beta 0.70
Post by: Will on Wed, 28 Jun 2017 00:27

Okay, seems to be working well! Thanks for all your time and energy on this add-on.
Title: Re: FiFLi add-on - First officer and Flight attendant for PSX - beta 0.70
Post by: Pierre Dousset on Mon, 28 Aug 2017 11:02
Hi Vito,
FiFli is very realist and works fine. I've just a problem vhen arriving at holding point. I stop taxi, then obtain clearance to enter the RWY, Flt dk door is turned on DENY and release and there nothing happens ?
Current Fifli phase stay at Before start checklist. To obtain the next Fifli phase i have to quit Fifli, and then restart it, and wait
Can you help me ? What is wrong ?
Pierre.
Title: Re: FiFLi add-on - First officer and Flight attendant for PSX - beta 0.70
Post by: vito on Mon, 28 Aug 2017 11:31
Hi Pierre,

here is answer from previous post:

Quote
... Second status change is initiated when you rotate  FLT DK DOOR selector in any direction - that is when boarding / FO preparation starts. Form here, you just follow standard flow, exceptionally you can shorten boarding simulation by rotating FLT DK DOOR selector in any direction - again (but bear in mind that FO preflight procedures will go on until they are finished - this is due programming - still on to do list is that FO actions also stop with stopping boarding actions).

Also to tell FiFLi that takeoff is imminent or to enter "runway entry mode", few items have to be set first, from what I can remember for is that flaps must be in takeofff configuration, beacon and strobes must be on ...


best regards

vito
Title: Re: FiFLi add-on - First officer and Flight attendant for PSX - beta 0.70
Post by: Pierre Dousset on Wed, 30 Aug 2017 14:08
Hi Vito,
thanks for your message.
Best regards,
Pierre.
Title: Re: FiFLi add-on - First officer and Flight attendant for PSX - beta 0.71
Post by: vito on Sun, 19 Nov 2017 16:56
Here is the newest beta 0.71:

beta 0.71
- Simulation of boarding (starts when you rotate FLT DK DOOR selector) now also reflects in ZFW value being changed (increased), ZFW will automatically increase towards inserted Planned ZFW value (you can check this on CDU by selecting PERF INIT page) , also value entered in - Planned fuel will automatically trigger fuel loading - if values in respective fields stays “0” ZFW and Fuel will not be automatically updated / loaded
- Climb and cruize Flight attendant message is now played only when you are higher than minimum altitude (cca 10000 ft) and seat belts switch is tuned to auto or off

Complete package is available at (recommended because some new sounds added):
https://www.dropbox.com/s/dft2carzrwiozcw/FiFLi.zip?dl=0

and just "jar" file:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/wvt0tz4ii3smtn8/FiFLi.jar?dl=0

best regards

vito
Title: Re: FiFLi add-on - First officer and Flight attendant for PSX - beta 0.71
Post by: Black4956 on Sun, 21 Jan 2018 13:41
Hi Vito,
first of all thank you very much for your awesome addon. But - it's a pity it does not work in connection with my system I suppose. Although I followed everything according to your description it didn't work the last three times.
First I thought maybe my antivirus software was the reason. But after deactivating it there are still problems.
Sometimes Phase 3 works, sometimes it doesn't!  :-(
After I finished my Taxi I rotated FLT DK DOOR selector to deny. ...nothing happens.
During Phase 6 - Climb - Cruise there is no FA briefing heard etc. etc.
It's a shame. Nevertheless this addon is great stuff - if it's working. In my case there is no success!  :-(
Maybe you have an idea what the reason is.
with regards
Bernd Schwarz

PS: I exactly followed your procedure guide!!!!!
Title: Re: FiFLi add-on - First officer and Flight attendant for PSX - beta 0.71
Post by: vito on Sun, 21 Jan 2018 14:58
Hi Bernd !

You are probably missing condition, let's see ...
First, just for safety, be sure that FiFLi status message says "Connected!" when you check "Connect to PSX !".

Sometimes Phase 3 works, sometimes it doesn't!  :-(

For Phase 3 (Before start procedure) to work you must have next items checked:
1. Flaps must be UP
2. Doors must be CLOSED
3. Beacon must be ON (this is the trigger for telling FO to start Before start procedure)
4. Engines must be COLD (not running - start switches OFF)

After I finished my Taxi I rotated FLT DK DOOR selector to deny. ...nothing happens.

To enter "Runway entry procedure" you must have next items checked:

1. Flaps must be in TAKE OFF position
2. Beacon must be ON
3. Autobrakes must be set to RTO
4. Pair of Landing light must be switched to on (left or right pair - it doesn't matter which pair) - this is trigger for "telling" FO to prepare aircraft

During Phase 6 - Climb - Cruise there is no FA briefing heard etc. etc.

To enter "cruise" phase next items must be checked:

1. Doors must be closed
2. Gear must be in UP position
3. Altitude must be higher than 10000 ft
4. Descent phase must not be active (you can't be closer than 250 nm from destination)
5. And final:  FLT DK DOOR selector must be in AUTO of OFF position.

In general, I don't recommend jumping between various phases, it is better to close FiFLi and start it again (load desired situ and then start FiFLi).


Best regards
vito
Title: Re: FiFLi add-on - First officer and Flight attendant for PSX - beta 0.71
Post by: Black4956 on Sun, 21 Jan 2018 16:53
Hi Vito,
thank you very much for your fast reply. I will follow exactly your advice. As soon as I have positive results I will inform you.
Have a good time. Greetings to Zagreb!   :-)
cheers
Bernd
Title: Re: FiFLi add-on - First officer and Flight attendant for PSX - beta 0.71
Post by: Black4956 on Sun, 21 Jan 2018 17:53
Hi Vito,

now everthing is working! Do you know why:    My procedures were based on your first procedure guide which was different in some case:

Phase 5 - Take off
Conditions: When you are near runway and you have your clearance to enter it you can execute Runway
entry procedure
5.1 >>> Rotate FLT DK DOOR selector to DENY and release it - This will signal to the First officer that you
are ready to enter the runway and so you are giving First officer order to execute so called runway entry
procedure. First officer will: call flight attendants to take seats for take off, turn on landing lights, turn off taxi
lights, turn on strobe, and put XPDR to RA/TA position.
5.2 >>> Do Takeoff checklist

I always tried to rotate FLT DK DOOR selector in order to start the runway entry procedure.

The "before-start-engine" problem (Phase 3) always happened when I already changed the flaps in takeoff position.  :-)

As you see there were some changes made during the update period I suppose. I would really appreciate if you have an actual procedure guide with all the changes in comparison to the procedure guide V. 1.0.

By the way the briefing during climbing/cruising still does not work!  :-(

with regards
Bernd
Title: Re: FiFLi add-on - First officer and Flight attendant for PSX - beta 0.71
Post by: vito on Mon, 22 Jan 2018 21:11

As you see there were some changes made during the update period I suppose. I would really appreciate if you have an actual procedure guide with all the changes in comparison to the procedure guide V. 1.0.

By the way the briefing during climbing/cruising still does not work!  :-(

with regards
Bernd

There were changes since first release of the procedure guide, if I can remember, but full update will be done as soon as I am finished with beta :-)

I am sorry that flight attendant still not working.  I see that I made typo here mentioning FLT DK DOOR selector instead SEAT BELTS selector, so here are correct conditions for FA:

1. Doors must be closed
2. Gear must be in UP position
3. Altitude must be higher than 10000 ft
4. Descent phase must not be active (you can't be closer than 250 nm from destination)
5. And final:  SEAT BELTS selector must be in AUTO or OFF position.

Best regards!

vito
Title: Re: FiFLi add-on - First officer and Flight attendant for PSX - beta 0.71
Post by: Black4956 on Tue, 23 Jan 2018 07:43

Hi Vito,

thank you for your help. I appreciate it very much!  :-)
Yesterday evening I made a new flight.
Everything was working except the FA briefing on cruise and descent/approach.
I'm absolutely convinced that your great addon will be working 100 per cent after
the final release. I wish you the very best! Continue the good work.
with kind regards
Bernd

PS: My Java:     Version 8 update 161 (Build 1.8.0_161-b12)       Maybe this helps! :-)
Title: Re: FiFLi add-on - First officer and Flight attendant for PSX - beta 0.71
Post by: vito on Tue, 23 Jan 2018 08:20

Everything was working except the FA briefing on cruise and descent/approach.


Java version doesn't mater. One last thing I can think off: do you have selected PA volume selector on Captain's panel: if the PA volume selector is ON (green light) you will hear PA announcements (briefings) - so be sure that is selected.

best regards

vito
Title: Re: FiFLi add-on - First officer and Flight attendant for PSX - beta 0.71
Post by: Black4956 on Tue, 23 Jan 2018 12:48
Hi Vito,
of course the FLT, CAB and PA was on (green lights) during the whole flight. There is only one briefing audible shortly after takeoff. There are no further briefings audible - Neither on cruise nor on descent/approach!   :-(

cheers
Bernd
Title: Re: FiFLi add-on - First officer and Flight attendant for PSX - beta 0.71
Post by: vito on Wed, 24 Jan 2018 09:57
Hi Vito,
of course the FLT, CAB and PA was on (green lights) during the whole flight. There is only one briefing audible shortly after takeoff. There are no further briefings audible - Neither on cruise nor on descent/approach!   :-(

cheers
Bernd

I presume that you have files (wav sound files should installed using the same directory structure as in ZIP file) installed correctly ? It is weird that one briefing is played and others are not. I would download whole package again and extract it in new folder just to be sure. FiFLi doesn't  change windows registry file so you can safely delete old folder just to be sure.

best regards
vito
Title: Re: FiFLi add-on - First officer and Flight attendant for PSX - beta 0.71
Post by: Black4956 on Fri, 26 Jan 2018 09:30
Hi Vito,
thank you for your idea!  I downloaded the whole package  again and reinstalled everything......still the same problem!

with regards
Bernd
Title: Re: FiFLi add-on - First officer and Flight attendant for PSX - beta 0.71
Post by: Black4956 on Mon, 16 Apr 2018 11:54
Hi Vito,

would like to know if there is already some progress in case of final version of your awesome FiFLi.
I don't want to bother you!   .... it's just a little information!   ;-)

with kind regards
Bernd
Title: Re: FiFLi add-on - First officer and Flight attendant for PSX - beta 0.71
Post by: vito on Tue, 17 Apr 2018 21:27
Hi Bernd,

nothing new happened, waiting for the inspiration and free time ! :-)
Next todo is revised user manual.

Thanks for your kind words,

Best regards

Viti
Title: Re: FiFLi add-on - First officer and Flight attendant for PSX - beta 0.71
Post by: Black4956 on Wed, 18 Apr 2018 12:42
Hi Vito,

no problem at all. Take as much time as you need - and of course - relax!!

srdačan pozdrav za Zagreb

cheers
Bernd